A Future for Jeepneys (What do you think?)

[ghosthunter]

^^ It may be cheaper if....

Nissan removes the air conditioning system of the Urvan.

If they'll remove the HU of the van.

Remove the windows.

Replace the seats with a much cheaper one.

Replace those alloy rims ( does it even have one ? ) with steel rims

Hell, it may sound and look funny but hey, atleast it's a newer one. :2thumbsup:

Even if you strip it down by removing all those stuff you have mentioned, it would only reduce the price by around P100K.

BTW, I wouldn't remove the windows.

[renzo_d10]

Hmmm . . . Yup, I know that it wont make a big difference in the price. But it will surely help.

However, I think it would be also possible if jeepney makers would just change their design.

Maybe, from the old body structure to a newer body structure such as the urvan's ?

[ghosthunter]

Hmmm . . . Yup, I know that it wont make a big difference in the price. But it will surely help.

However, I think it would be also possible if jeepney makers would just change their design.

Maybe, from the old body structure to a newer body structure such as the urvan's ?

First show me how you can make consistent three dimensional curves in sheet metal with the hand tools jeepney makers have at their disposal.

Without those curves, a locally made van would look like a cardboard box on wheels with cut-outs for windows.

[OyiL]

First show me how you can make consistent three dimensional curves in sheet metal with the hand tools jeepney makers have at their disposal.

Without those curves, a locally made van would look like a cardboard box on wheels with cut-outs for windows.

eto siguro yung simple tools. consistency e skills na yun nung ating mga craftsmen. sana maipasa nila skills nila sa younger generation
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGElSHzm0q8&feature=related"]YouTube - METAL SHAPING WITH HAND TOOLS (English craftsman)[/ame]

english wheel:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w286SLBHhY"]YouTube - Aeroform using the English wheel[/ame]

[roberto_minosa]

This needs tax breaks first!

If I'm a bigtime designer, I'd make more headroom on this one. And I'd use the side door for access. An automatic coin collector positioned at the entry point would also be sweet.

I saw this gadget on TV that records driving habits through tech similar to telemetry. That would be awesome for the future PUJ, since the operator will immediately see if his driver is a douchebag on wheels. A CCTV recorder might also come in handy.

But I wouldn't let any PUJ driver operate this before going through hell of driving exams that we guys at Tsikot will design.

[ghosthunter]

eto siguro yung simple tools. consistency e skills na yun nung ating mga craftsmen. sana maipasa nila skills nila sa younger generation
YouTube - METAL SHAPING WITH HAND TOOLS (English craftsman)

english wheel:
YouTube - Aeroform using the English wheel

Making one-off parts are okay for hand tools and making a single vehicle. But when you want to mass produce these items, you will need to invest into some machines. Making each piece by hand ensures that each piece is slightly different from the next and you cannot just replace one part with another because they will not fix the same way.

[OyiL]

Making one-off parts are okay for hand tools and making a single vehicle. But when you want to mass produce these items, you will need to invest into some machines. Making each piece by hand ensures that each piece is slightly different from the next and you cannot just replace one part with another because they will not fix the same way.

i just answered your first question.

[Benji_DCP]

Talagang panahon na para pa asensuhin ang design ng jeepney. Unang una'y, the reason for it being as gas guzzling as the bus is that most jeepneys actually uses engines with displacements as huge as busses. On top of this the borloloys definitely adds to the jeepneys gas consumption. And to ad to the injury, most jeepney drivers seem to have been born and raised in a rodeo with such sudden stop and goes that definitely adds more than 40% to their gas consumption.

Lighter bodies, less over power and perhaps power to body configuration maximized and if possible conversion to LPG to be more environment friendly.

Jeepneys though should be relegated to the less commuter density areas and the buses to the high commuting public density areas.

Op curse, p[anaginip ito't wala naman sa isip ng gobierno, more specifically LTFRB ang kapakanan ng sambayanan o ng kalikasan at nakatuon ang pansin nila kung papaano pa mapupuno ang stretchable at super lalim nilang mga bulsa.

The jeepney in the picture above at least looks well maintained. If only all the jeepneys on the metro roads are maintained not only for its safety and reliability on the road but for their aesthetics as a distinct Pinoy road art at least. I estimate that close to 80% of the jeepneys on the road are dilapidated, rusty, dirty, unsightly and unkempt like the drivers who operate them. At least a couple of years back, most jeepneys were well maintained, that the government then, projects them as a tourist attraction.

Perhaps the reason or answer to my observation is that those jeepneys plying in the late 70's-80's are still running on the roads today. There must be a phase-out rule for public jeepneys as well. One must probably get anti-tetanus shots when riding in the jeepney now a days.

[donbuggy]

Time for Tsikoteers to re-design the jeepney?

Starting from the interior (which seat design, seating layout, floor to ceiling height, etc. is the best).

Then design the chassis to fit the interior layout. Not the other way around (i.e. chassis first, then interior).

Then present the 3D rendering of the final design(s) to the media.

It will be open source. Any local manufacturer will be free to use the design or parts of the design. Okay, maybe not free. A case of beer :toma: and pulutan and we'll call it even.

[jpdm]

Dapat baguhin na itsura pati yung mga design nya. Sobrang tagal na kasi ng dyipni, ganun pa rin ang pagkakagawa at itsura.

Meron naman na Passad ng Iloilo na AUV na.

O kaya under license magproduce ng Cab chassis ang mga fabricator na Pinoy.
Tulad ng Mitsubishi L300 FB with Almazora-Fujino body o Isuzu IPV with Centro body..


Dapat lahat ng bulok na jeepney, itapon na sa dagat at gawing artificial corals.

[jpdm]

Dapat baguhin na itsura pati yung mga design nya. Sobrang tagal na kasi ng dyipni, ganun pa rin ang pagkakagawa at itsura.

Meron naman na Passad ng Iloilo na AUV na.

O kaya under license magproduce ng Cab chassis ang mga fabricator na Pinoy.
Tulad ng Mitsubishi L300 FB with Almazora-Fujino body o Isuzu IPV with Centro body..


Dapat lahat ng bulok na jeepney, itapon na sa dagat at gawing artificial corals.

Bulok na jeep


PUJ WASHINGTON-BELAIR VIA BUENDIA

Phoo courtesy of daily commuter of SSC 10/23/09

[roberto_minosa]

LOL!!! Yung PUJ parang nasuntok yung headlight sa kanan...

[OyiL]

maryosep! mukhang ang tibay ng bubong - punong puno ng masilya, pwede gawing bangka yung bubung, super waterproof.

[Benji_DCP]

Bulok na jeep


PUJ WASHINGTON-BELAIR VIA BUENDIA

Phoo courtesy of daily commuter of SSC 10/23/09

Zombies! Rolling Coffins! There was such a time, when Jeepney drivers were proud of their vehicles, showing-off all their borloloys and their blaring 8-track music players. Now a days, there is "No Pride" at all. "Kahit anong itsura, pwede na, bast gumugulong"

There should be a delipidated vehicle law or jalopy act that should prevent the likes of vehicles from plying the road, both public and private vehicles.

[roberto_minosa]

Imagine...how the hell did this thing pass the emissions testing? Oh wait...emissions testing is a big joke...

[jpdm]

dapat sa may ari ng jeepney na yan kasuhan ng littering or carrying dangerous weapon dahil baka matetano mga pasahero at mabundol nyan!

[ghosthunter]

Imagine...how the hell did this thing pass the emissions testing? Oh wait...emissions testing is a big joke...

Yes it is a big joke. And one of the reasons why its a big joke is the cut-off limits are adjusted so the jeepneys would have an easier time to pass (as long as they don't spew out black smoke).

[roberto_minosa]

Yeah and some new small motorcycles (100cc+) have a hard time passing emissions testing!

[ocanursjr]

Bulok na jeep


PUJ WASHINGTON-BELAIR VIA BUENDIA

Phoo courtesy of daily commuter of SSC 10/23/09

Roadkill!!!

[kitsons]

Dapat baguhin na itsura pati yung mga design nya. Sobrang tagal na kasi ng dyipni, ganun pa rin ang pagkakagawa at itsura.

Meron naman na Passad ng Iloilo na AUV na.

O kaya under license magproduce ng Cab chassis ang mga fabricator na Pinoy.
Tulad ng Mitsubishi L300 FB with Almazora-Fujino body o Isuzu IPV with Centro body..


Dapat lahat ng bulok na jeepney, itapon na sa dagat at gawing artificial corals.

Iyong DPROX chasis na terrano looks like a good one for a redesigned jeepney. The configuration is just right and is almost the same as the standard, small elf'd chassis jeepney and may have enough strength to hold the mostly overload jeepneys in use in the p[rovinces.

I remembered once nakasakay ako sa really delapidated jeepney in Magalang, Pampangga with rust all over. It was really comic whenwe first roamed around town collecting the passengers from where they lived and at one point a passenger had a bale of long sugarcane tied up to around a foot and a half in diameter and almost as long as the jeepney itself.

Nope, they did not put the canes inside the jeepney, they THREW the bunch onto the top of the roof... and man experience in a lifetime nangyari at first time I've experience na umulan ng sang katerbang kalawang on everybody in the jeepney. It took awhile na ma shake and brush of the rust from our heads and clothes.

The story told is a point of consideration on design. The design has to consider the worse case scenario on the abuse the jeepney has to take when meant for country use.

Kit

PS - BTW our former associates in an automotive shop we almost started to build AUV's way back in the early 90's have been manufacturing chassis of different makes, evangelista's elf's (the small and large), fx's with practically alll makes of which they have the technical configurations and knew what engines and power chains can be specific types of chassis.

Not sure now though if these configuration can be modified for electric power systems or perhaps the electric power systems design can be adjusted to the chassis configuration.