A Future for Jeepneys (What do you think?)

[drey]

From the Inquirer today - http://business.inquirer.net/money/b...ticle_id=67281

Auto parts makers want local parts in public jeepneys
By Ronnel Domingo
Inquirer
Last updated 04:04am (Mla time) 05/22/2007
Automotive parts makers have teamed up with a group of jeepney operators to develop a “Philippine-made public utility vehicle” in support of the government’s plans to rehabilitate the country’s jeepney fleets.
The Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MVPMAP) said it had signed a memorandum of agreement with the umbrella group Philippine Jeepney Operators and Drivers Alliance Foundation, as it was wrapping up preparations for the launch of its “Philippine Utility Vehicle or PhUV.”
The MVPMAP embarked on the development of a PhUV prototype in part to convince the government to provide incentives to investors that would take part in developing a “national vehicle” using mostly local parts.
MVPMAP officials said the PUV initiative would be part of the group’s PhUV campaign for perks.
It would also support the Department of Environment and Natural Resources’ plan to “refleet or rehabilitate” the jeepney sector’s 240,000 units spread across the country.
The PUV program is aimed at targeting the nationwide PUJ refleeting program to make the existing PUJs powered by surplus diesel engines comply with Euro standards on exhaust emission.
There are an estimated 67,000 jeepneys in Metro Manila alone.
“Public utility jeepneys are a basic form of transportation in our country and a PUJ should naturally be made with as much local value added as possible,” the group said. “Thus, we came up with the PUV idea.”
The MVPMAP said it would campaign for the PUV jeepney to be part of a PhUV program of incentives from the government, the officials said.
The PUV program would also fill in the demand for a coaster-type minibus, which could be air-conditioned.
In the process, all these were expected to modernize the land transportation sector.

coaster-type minibuses? mas crowded na ata MM kung meron pa nito... Sana na lang our government officials which we voted learned the word discipline.

[C24]

para maraming local component, anahaw ang bubong, kawayan ang body at sidings

but they're missing the point, it's not only the vehicle but more of the driver. kaya rin naman nalalaspag, bara bara mag maneho. put them on rails, almost solved na traffic and pollution caused by them

[dprox]

THE FUTURE OF THE PUJ:
(1) BALIK PROBINSYA. The PUJ has outlived its usefulness in Metro Manila. No honest-to-goodness urban planner will favor jeepneys over mass-transport systems, if transport efficiency is the goal. Sobrang power at sobrang tibay para lamang sa pampasaherong gamit sa lungsod. The PUJ's usefulness lies in other cities and the rural areas.
A win-win solution has to be devised to effect that urban-to-rural shift, to minimize the impact of relocation. Kundi, hindi aasenso ang MM. The PUJ is a liability in MM, but still an asset to the provinces.
If you pull the PUJs out of MM, you have to replace them with more efficient vehicles to ply capillary roads. Otherwise, you will have a swarm of tricycles taking over.
To facilitate all of the above, Government has to decentralize development, demagnetize MM, and undertake a full-blast educational/media campaign for a voluntary re-migration of Metro Manilans to the provinces.
(2) PUNTA OVERSEAS. Inevitably, at a certain point of provincial development, so will the PUJ again face obsolescence. So, as early as now, Government will be wise to negotiate with less-developed countries (there are many) and sell them the PUJ as appropriate technology. Papua New Guinea was a good start. Dapat may follow-through.
Product life cycle is another reason to venture into the global market. The PUJ is a tough vehicle that is built to last almost a lifetime, and since very few of them really retire, the local market tends to be saturated. Hence, we need to export it, or the only future left for it will be the museum and tourism.
(3) BAYANIHAN. The local parts manufacturers have finally arrived at the hard truth that in order to survive, they have to work with local fabricators - something they should have done decades back. That's why they are desperately courting the surviving PUJ fabricators who are still on the surplus parts track. But if the price goes beyond reach of the C&D market, that's it - no deal.
(4) BAGONG ANYO (PUJ Evolution). If the PhUV Project succeeds, it will compete with the PUJ, and force PUJ fabricators to either evolve the PUJ into a PhUV or close shop.

OR:

(5) TULOG SA PANSITAN. :sleep: Everyone remain in their comfort zones, maintain the status quo and eat shitsaron and pansit until kingdom come. :hysterical:

[pobreparin]

mas stable din yung mga jumbo jeeps..maybe dahil mas malaki nga sila...ito ang inarkila namin when we went to batangas from makati...di sya matagtag sa SLEX....with karaoke tv pa yung na-arkila namin.....

[oliver1013]

Dapat matuto rin pinoy maglakad kahit konti, pinoy kasi gusto bumaba eksakto sa pupuntahan kahit makatrapik.

[redorange]

Dapat matuto rin pinoy maglakad kahit konti, pinoy kasi gusto bumaba eksakto sa pupuntahan kahit makatrapik.

That's exactly why buses don't know how to use the bus stops and jeeps swerve to cut other vehicles in order to pick up and drop off passengers. Both drivers and the riding public need to learn.

[dennis powell]

some politicians are a good singer they can sing a good song but most of them are great co-rapper,they can co-rap whenever they want.


solution proposal:

simple way againts corruption=submit=think,,,,think,,,,think,,, result after 1 year,,,not yet,,,think,,,,think,,,think,,result after 3 years,,,not yet,,, review,,,submit,,,think,,,think,,,think,,,result after 5 years,,,finally approved....

what???,,, who approved it,me!!!! i did not sign the proposal,,,ok then..?????


solution proposal:

simple way of corruption=submit=think,,,think,,,think,,,result after 1 day,,,ok great,,approved.


di ba simple lang talaga,,eh kung pa nila kinontrol yang problema na yan,eh di wala sanang trffic ngayon and kung meron man,light to medium lang(except accident). ang mangyari kasi yung mga colurum na yan,may nang hawak dyan sa kanila at yunng nanghawak sa kanila may kapit sa itaas kaya naging talamak ang corruption(sorry lang sa mga nasagasaan,pero true naman di ba? kaya its too late na mga kaibigan and tanggapin nalang natin,maliban na lang kung mga nanalo ay totoo sa kanilang mga pangako,sana nga.

[safeorigin]

i think i'd like to hear the beat out of that tune.

pormang rap cguro nyan. ahihihihi

[fourtheboys96]

ok pa naman ang jeepney as long as well maintained (ndi smoke belcher), malinis tingnan, at marunong ang driver. marunong na driver means may paggalang at respeto sa ibang motorista ndi yung marunong lang umpak sa gas at preno at umabante at umatras tapos ala na pakialam sa iba.

sa provinces patok pa din ang jeep. mejo hassle na nga lang jan sa NCR kasi madami na sila.

kung nais natin mabawasan ang jeep sa lansangan, dapat meron magandang alternative mode of transpo like LRT, MRT, street cars, etc. wag natin sila alisin ng diretsahan para ndi masyado kontrobersyal. pag mejo kontrobersyal kasi, dami tututol tapos ndi matutuloy.

pag nangyari ito, its either maalis ang mga jeep or improve nila yung services nila to be competitive. alisin na lang yung mga bulok then retain yung ayus na jeep. weird naman kung walng jeep sa lansangan, di ba?

[oliver1013]

Isang classic example yung paakyat ng flyover sa libis goin to katipunan. Dun nagbaba ng pasahero yung driver..

[drey]

I was wondering why not our airport has a Filipino theme in them....

Oversized Jeepneys maganda siguro sa airport natin.

[architect]

Screencaps from HBO's Tsunami -

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[OyiL]

Screencaps frm HBO's Tsunami -

where was the video taken? are those philippine jeepneys? pang-international disaster relief pala yan. dapat naka-disguise ng red cross livery

[architect]

where was the video taken? are those philippine jeepneys? pang-international disaster relief pala yan. dapat naka-disguise ng red cross livery

AFAIK, the movie was filmed in Thailand. Most of the locations were sites that were actually devastated by the tsunami. The screen caps are from scenes in Phuket, the first is actually at Phuket Airport.

[OyiL]

AFAIK, the movie was filmed in Thailand. Most of the locations were sites that were actually devastated by the tsunami. The screen caps are from scenes in Phuket, the first is actually at Phuket Airport.

so are those our jeepneys or thailand copies? i never knew our jeepneys were exported to thailand.

[heightdeprived]

Dapat naman kasi limitado lang ang ibinibigay na prangkisa para hindi over crowded ang mga jeepneys sa mga kalsada natin mas malaki pa ang kita nila hindi yung takbo ng takbo kahit walang pasahero.

it's limited, but otherwise if the price is right,

[dprox]

While we are all embroiled with the MVPMAP PhUV, another new kid is arriving on the block.
It's called the e-Jeepney.
There is a separate thread to monitor the developments re this new vehicle to be piloted in Bacolod City. If you here anything about it, please post it there. The thread is at http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38959.


Thursday, June 14, 2007
[SIZE="4"]E-jeepney and Jack[/SIZE]
By Michelle P. So
[SIZE="1"]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/06/14/oped/michelle.p..so.caught.in.the.net.html[/SIZE]

IN a month or so, a new kind of public jeepney will be plying the streets of Bacolod City. This costs about P380,000 each, is made of fiberglass, seats only 13 including driver and doesn’t need gasoline to run. It’s an e-jeepney.

E-jeepney is an electric-powered jeepney that will debut in the streets of Bacolod, a city where the latest automobile models cruise. If you want to find out what’s new in the auto industry, you’ll find your answer in this city that’s 20 flying minutes from Cebu.

Since it does not run on gasoline or diesel, the e-jeepney is dependent on rechargeable batteries. For it to go an 80- to 100-kilometer trip a day, it needs to be charged for eight hours.

So what happens when the battery is almost drained, does the e-jeepney stop in the middle of the road, or does it warn the driver that it can go only for this distance so he can tell the passengers, “Guys, this is where you get off now. It’s only about two kilometers to your destination anyway and walking will do you good.”?

Green Renewable Independent Power Producer Inc. (GRIPP), the private sector group that is behind the e-jeepney endeavor, wants to test the viability and sustainability of the electric-powered mass transport in Bacolod before it brings the vehicle to other cities, maybe Cebu.

I called up Jack Jakosalem, the Cebu City councilor who seems to have an answer to whatever question I ask him, be it the distance between his house in Maria Luisa and the moon or a behavioral analysis of the mayor. Jack heads the Council committee on transportation, energy, utilities and communication.

Do you think an electric-powered jeepney can work in Cebu, Jack?

He answered: We’re moving towards that direction—using vehicles with hybrid engines, partly gasoline, partly energy. They cause less strain on our environment and our pockets. But so far, it’s still private vehicles, no public transport yet. The private cars running on hybrid engines are expensive.

Later, he texted: With the inventive instinct of the Filipinos and the jeepney being a Filipino concept, I’m sure they will find a way to make the jeepney a cheaper and more maintenance-free mode of public transportation eventually.”

Off the cuff, I think the e-jeepney might be environmentally friendly but it might not be practical for Cebu City where the increasing number of vehicles is aggravating the traffic congestion. If the e-jeepney seats only 12 passengers (I think its Chinese makers have the average Asian size in mind), then it has the size of a multicab. What Cebu needs is a mass transport similar to the KMK buses that accommodate passengers of three to four 12F jeepneys.

There is more to the e-jeep than passenger sizes, fiberglass body and probably a crocheted sign of “God knows Hudas not pay.” It will be powered by electricity that is produced from waste. The e-jeep will be charged by batteries that will be charged at a power plant.

As described in news reports, the power plant consists of a generator, a high solid anaerobic digester and gas engine. Organic refuse will be emptied into the digester where this will be dissolved and converted into gas, which in turn will be pumped into an engine that will now produce the electricity. A physicist or a science teacher, or maybe even Jack, can explain this process better than I do.

When I visit Sun.Star Bacolod next month, I’ll try the e-jeepney, but I’ll be crossing my fingers that I get to my destination before it goes low-batt.


[SIZE="1"]PHOTO & CAPTION FROM PDI 05 JUNE 2007, FRONT PAGE[/SIZE]

[dprox]

Screencaps from HBO's Tsunami -
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If they're not tuktuks with a thyroid problem, then they must be jeepney imitations. I don't know of any local PUJs with roof gutters or rear fenders like those.

[drey]

just rode an aircon jeepney... it was a very nice experience.

[oldblue]

this e-jeepney looks good. there ought to be a law on the construction of current jeepneys. dont use stainless, sharp edges, and pointy metal objects.

in that way, they wont be aggressive anymore.