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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    ilan decades na kasi ganyan ang public transport system natin kaya mahirap baguhin

    pwede if you build things from the ground up

    like a brand new city with a transport system that only uses buses and subway system

    bawal puj, tricycles, pedicab

    buses operated by the govt. monthly salary ang driver. limited number of buses. get on and off at bus stops only

    kung babaguhin mo ang sistema sa existing city it's almost impossible. sanay na kasi mga tao sa sistema. napakatigas pa ang ulo ayaw sa pagbabago

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    ^ Kapag nawala jeepney, yung mga motorists like us lang matutuwa. The rest, rally na ng rally. Kung sabagay, they can't see the overall advantage of not having jeepneys at all. A 'greener' environment, less chaotic road encounters & less noise pollution.

    *master jedi: Okay lang for small cities ang coaster buses. I-convert nalang sideways yung mga upuan para mas malaki capacity, pero limited lang number nila para hindi rin makaabala. For a tomas morato-timog-kamuning travel, let's say 2-3 coaster buses lang. Pero dun lang sila, they have designated drop-off & pick-up points. Nobody will stop unless they've reached their drop-off points.

    After all, other people lived without jeepneys, why can't we?

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    this all boils down to planning (i.e. small roads where only jeepneys and tricycles can be accommodated)

    magaling naman tayo mag-plano. mahina lang tayo mag-implement lalo na pag may masasagasaan.

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    Ang mga Pinoy naman kasi sanay na sa convenience ng jeepney. Convenience taken at the expense of us motorists. Kahit saan pwede magpara kahit nasa gitna ng kalsada and almost all of the time there are no signal lights or brake lights to speak of. At mas maliit naman kasi ang jeepney, napapasukan ang mga lugar na di mapapasukan ng bus. Nasanayang maging tamad na ang Pinoy commuting public.

    Hindi naman talagang indispensable ang jeepneys, lalo na ngayon with the advent of UV/GT-Express. Only a few petot more than the standard jeepney fare, mas mabilis sa jeepney at naka-aircon pa. Same goes with passenger buses. Sinubukan ko lang isang beses mag-aircon bus at nagulat nalang ako na napakamura pala!

    Hindi rin lang naman tayong mga motorista ang masisiyahan sa pagwala ng jeepney, may pang-backup pa tayong sila manong bus driver, manong taxi driver at manong GT Express driver. Count out the tricycle drivers, mga peste din sila.

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    ya tamad kasi ang pinoy mag lakad. blame it on the climate

    kaya kahit saan may masasakyan

    kahit yung pwede lakarin gusto sumakay nalang

    kaya may tricycle kuliglig pedicab. meron demand eh... so meron supply

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    The best alternative to the Jeepney would simply be to replace them all with more efficient, newer L300 FBs, Hyundai Porters and Kia KC2700s.

    More efficient engines. Cleaner (well... I don't know about the L300...)... and safer.

    If we want locally made jeepneys to reach even the low levels of sophistication that these FB-style vehicles possess, the only way is to ban the jeep and raise the fares to a level that will encourage businessmen and operators to invest in newer vehicles.

    As it is... with the ultra-low fares of jeeps... lugi ka if you buy brand-new. Only way to achieve a quick ROI or even break even is to buy a secondhand POS made thirty years ago which has been around the block a million times.

    Look at what happened to the PhUV. Even if they could get it out at 450k back then, there was no market. People who are looking at rudimentary transport like that are more likely to go for decade old secondhand Japanese diesels.

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    Fiberglass... aside from the health risks from the fibers (same risk you get from cigarettes... the fibers can puncture your lungs) and resins... fiberglass degrades with exposure to heat and UV. The strength and impact resistance goes down over time. It's a good replacement for some of the steel used, but you still need a frame underneath it, anyway...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Only one place for jeepneys: the junkyard.

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    Yun nga lang the AUVs, even without aircon and rear doors and windows would cost at least 500k-600k. No way they are taking that. Given the option, they'll start it again with their act of having no money, simpleng tao simpleng buhay, etc, etc, etc... We'll probably be needing another Marcos to eradicate those jeepneys. They seem to fail to notice na yung jeep nila kasing lakas uminom o mas malakas pa uminom kesa sa Jeep Ni Erap. :rofl: I don't think it will take very long for them to recover their investments, should they indeed change to these types of vehicle. Sa fuel savings palang eh mabilis na. They travel hundreds of kilometers a day, libo libo na ang binabayad na pang-gas. Siguro libo libo na rin ang savings nila daily kung sinabi nating mga 2x or better ang gas mileage ng bagong sasakyan. Eh di libo libo din ang dagdag sa pambaon pauwi. Hindi tumitingin ng malayo eh.

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    dapat wag na magbigay ng prankisa. matagal man pero may masisira, magsasawa o aasenso sa mga may dati ng prankisa. so mauubos din mga yan pag tagal. in that way hindi matatamaan yung mga current jeepney drivers tapos yung mga nagbabalak mag jeep eh hindi na tutuloy. palitan na lang ng bus o ano man pag kinakapos na yung isang lugar.

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    #10
    Quote Originally Posted by flakez View Post
    dapat wag na magbigay ng prankisa. matagal man pero may masisira, magsasawa o aasenso sa mga may dati ng prankisa. so mauubos din mga yan pag tagal.
    Kuliglig nga hindi mabawasan Jeepney pa?

    You are talking about the Philippines here. Eberything is out of control.

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