Nissan Frontier Navara [continued]

[migs0624]

Hello to all Navara owners!

Ask ko lang how much ang PMS ng Nissan Navara?
Pinag-iisipan ko kung kuha ako ng Navara or Strada. Strada kasi mura pero PMS sobrang mahal! (I own a montero, similar lang PMS nila).

I plan to keep the car kasi for at least 10 years so talagang kino-consider ko maintenance costs.

[12vdc]

Nissan Manual tells me to use API CF-4 when its not even recommended for EGR-equipped vehicles..

Im no expert on this but from what i understand reading the materials from API, ACEA, Lubrizol:
ACEA E7 = API CI4 mid drain
ACEA E9 = API CJ4 high drain
ACEA B4 - low drain, mas malaki ang sapot sa wear based on graph..hehe

The performance levels doesnot explicitly indicate exclusivity of use(gas or diesel), modern synthetic oils are somehow hybrid can be used either..

ACEA E9/ API CJ4 are designed for ULSD 15ppm. Using this to our high sulfur diesel will cause heavy oil fouling w/c translates to frequent oil changes.

Regarding interval of oil change, I think theres no much difference using Mobil1 TDT from Motul CRDI because 10k kms recommendation is a safe assumption for Euro2 diesel in a tropical region. Ive heared in other countries using Euro4 and having cleaner air are going up to 20k kms between oil changes. The only advantage i could see with motul is the much tolerance to fouling from high sulfur diesel that makes it last longer, plus the extra wear protection..Although Mobil1 TDT indicates its CI4 and CJ4, this could only mean they are backward-compatible..but then again drain-interval is short when used in our fuel.

So choosing oil greatly depends on:
- Fuel Quality
- Emission control attached to vehicle
- Climate/ Temperature/ Air quality or pollution

Nakakalito nga..But when it comes to oils-diesels-fuels i trust the europeans.. Also i stick to the rule that good oils are expensive while cheap oils ar crap. With the somuch BS in our Government, I dont think we can get advantage using high specs oils even get to Euro4 untill 2020. Basta ako im after the wear protection, bahala na sila sa soot at carbon, ilang buwan nalang tatakpan kona ang EGR with stick..haha..

Meron daw fake na Motul??

[kaefer_zwei]

Hey guys! where do you think you can get these bumper chrome plates!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34735682*N06/5377495136/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34735682*N06/5377
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[ikalinga]

aiyay.. so i have to use casa oil then til 15k.. kala ko kc i can shift to motul na, with the notion na pag mas mahal (with the right specs) eh mas maganda na para sa nav.

anyway tnx 12vdc, i guess i'll w8 til 15k.. tagal pa nito kc home and work lang daily trips ko average of 1km to 1.5km daily.

[cydepx44]

Hey guys! where do you think you can get these bumper chrome plates!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34735682*N06/5377495136/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34735682*N06/5377
[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/34735682*N06/5377495212/[/IMG]

frontier lang (us version d40 navara) meron nyan. yung lower part nung bumpers nila detachable and are made of steel.

[JPG111]

* Sir Albert:

Navara Turbo Intake Hose problems? here's a simple and cheap mod i found to prevent those "yupi hose" moments:

1st step is to clean the hose thoroughly of oil, dust, and other contaminants...

... then form a few rings (i used g. i. wire because that was available, but spring wire i think would be better) the same diameter as the hose. no need to bother tieing up the ends of the wire, just make it so that the ends touch each other...


then use silicone (i prefer to use gasket maker silicone) to hold the rings in place and to protect the hose from puncture:


let the silicone dry then test! so far, this mod has held up to my use and abuse for 5,000 km already. hope this helps!

Thanks for sharing this simple mod. Matagal ko nang problema yung " yupi hose" problem lalo na pag biglang hataw.. Will do this if i have free time.. Tnx

[weisshorn]

nice practical mod.
Maybe restricted ang suction due to partially clogged air filter kaya nayupi ang hose??

[locoroco777]

Nissan Manual tells me to use API CF-4 when its not even recommended for EGR-equipped vehicles..

Im no expert on this but from what i understand reading the materials from API, ACEA, Lubrizol:
ACEA E7 = API CI4 mid drain
ACEA E9 = API CJ4 high drain
ACEA B4 - low drain, mas malaki ang sapot sa wear based on graph..hehe

The performance levels doesnot explicitly indicate exclusivity of use(gas or diesel), modern synthetic oils are somehow hybrid can be used either..

ACEA E9/ API CJ4 are designed for ULSD 15ppm. Using this to our high sulfur diesel will cause heavy oil fouling w/c translates to frequent oil changes.

Regarding interval of oil change, I think theres no much difference using Mobil1 TDT from Motul CRDI because 10k kms recommendation is a safe assumption for Euro2 diesel in a tropical region. Ive heared in other countries using Euro4 and having cleaner air are going up to 20k kms between oil changes. The only advantage i could see with motul is the much tolerance to fouling from high sulfur diesel that makes it last longer, plus the extra wear protection..Although Mobil1 TDT indicates its CI4 and CJ4, this could only mean they are backward-compatible..but then again drain-interval is short when used in our fuel.

So choosing oil greatly depends on:
- Fuel Quality
- Emission control attached to vehicle
- Climate/ Temperature/ Air quality or pollution

Nakakalito nga..But when it comes to oils-diesels-fuels i trust the europeans.. Also i stick to the rule that good oils are expensive while cheap oils ar crap. With the somuch BS in our Government, I dont think we can get advantage using high specs oils even get to Euro4 untill 2020. Basta ako im after the wear protection, bahala na sila sa soot at carbon, ilang buwan nalang tatakpan kona ang EGR with stick..haha..

Meron daw fake na Motul??

yun din inaalala ko sa Mobil1 TDT, may low sulfur requirement ang diesel na dapat ikakarga...plus yung yung issue pa regarding sa EGR hehe....nakaka lito talaga hehe....

so Motul FTW parin? dahil sa malaking sapot sa graph hehe

Not sure about sa fake motul....scary naman yan kung meron...

BTW, thanks for allowing me to discuss this issue with oils on this thread...

[Wh1stl3r]

*locoroco777
Naku sir bang layo nung branch na ito sa inyo. Sa Rizal ko pa kasi nakita yun. I'll buy up their stock na lang pagdaan ko ulit doon if meron pa. Sa ibang branch kasi puro 1L bottles na lang at 550/L.

*12vdc
So tingin nyo sir ok sa atin ang 10TKm oil change intervals with Motul? Even then would you need to change your oil filter at 5TKm?

[12vdc]

*12vdc
So tingin nyo sir ok sa atin ang 10TKm oil change intervals with Motul? Even then would you need to change your oil filter at 5TKm?

Thats my practice since i use Motul on my 15k PMS.. Every 10k na ang change oil (25, 35, 45, 55, 65k).. Change Oil-filter naman every 5k,(15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50...), Top-up oil every 10k in between change-oil interval (20,30,40,50,60...)

Ano sir ang practice nyo, every 5k? Laki nun motul every 5k.. Siguro mahal nyo masyado ang nav nyo or laging severe conditions ang driving..

[12vdc]

Hello to all Navara owners!

Ask ko lang how much ang PMS ng Nissan Navara?
Pinag-iisipan ko kung kuha ako ng Navara or Strada. Strada kasi mura pero PMS sobrang mahal! (I own a montero, similar lang PMS nila).

I plan to keep the car kasi for at least 10 years so talagang kino-consider ko maintenance costs.

Sir, ask nyo si sir JPG111 and Boybakal they have both MS and Navara..

[cydepx44]

nice practical mod.
Maybe restricted ang suction due to partially clogged air filter kaya nayupi ang hose??

yes. the air filter element is rated * 20,000 km (as per maintenance sched) but some get clogged before pms, and result in the 'yupi' hose. symptoms are good power up to around 3,000 rpm then your boost suddenly drops and you'll get stuck in that rpm until you up-shift. on auto trans it creates quite a scary problem specially when you are in mid-overtake manuever

[cydepx44]

*locoroco777
Naku sir bang layo nung branch na ito sa inyo. Sa Rizal ko pa kasi nakita yun. I'll buy up their stock na lang pagdaan ko ulit doon if meron pa. Sa ibang branch kasi puro 1L bottles na lang at 550/L.

bilhin mo na kasi. sali ako dyan ha? dalhan ko na lang si sir locoroco

[DavaoSteve09]

Heres the pointers in choosing Navara



http://www.mynissan.com.ph/A_globaln...ure_090610.pdf

http://www.mynissan.com.ph/A_globaln...e_Brochure.pdf

http://www.mynissan.com.ph/A_globaln...e_Brochure.pdf

[cydepx44]

Thats my practice since i use Motul on my 15k PMS.. Every 10k na ang change oil (25, 35, 45, 55, 65k).. Change Oil-filter naman every 5k,(15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50...), Top-up oil every 10k in between change-oil interval (20,30,40,50,60...)

Ano sir ang practice nyo, every 5k? Laki nun motul every 5k.. Siguro mahal nyo masyado ang nav nyo or laging severe conditions ang driving..

alam mo dyan ako confused sa pm sched natin as per our owner's manual... if i understand correctly dapat every 7,500 km ang ating change oil. bwiset kasi nag-sulat nun manual na yan... abogado ata ang pinagawa nila. ang daming 'if' and 'but' . ang masaya pa dyan, even a small deviation from what the dealer recommends can result into a declined warranty claim, if and when such a need arises.

sabagay, regarding oil... hindi naman na-question ng umc yung use ko ng full synthetic in my case with the turbo... then again, they didn't actually grant me a new one under warranty either

[cydepx44]

double post

[Wh1stl3r]

*12vdc
Naku hindi naman, warranty pa ako kaya dino oil pa din every 5TKm hehe. Hanggang August na lang din naman, lapit na!

*cydepx44
Yup was wondering about that too bro, bakit 7,500 nakalagay sa manual. If memory serves sabi ng taga Nissan sa akin ang Metro Manila driving daw kasi is considered "severe" driving conditions kaya earlier lahat ng maintenance. Sa totoo lang ang naluluma lang yata sa Metro Manila yung driver, hehe. Sige pakyawin ko na yung Motul. Sana nandun pa pagdaan ko.

[jess25strada]

*all

sir pa help anu po ung tumotonog sa engine pag na on ung ac ng aircon? prang my sumisirit? cnu po naka experience nito?

normal un bro na experience ko din yan sa nav ko everytime i strarted in cold condition even n my old strada kahit sa mga kotse ganun din

[locoroco777]

*locoroco777
Naku sir bang layo nung branch na ito sa inyo. Sa Rizal ko pa kasi nakita yun. I'll buy up their stock na lang pagdaan ko ulit doon if meron pa. Sa ibang branch kasi puro 1L bottles na lang at 550/L.

ang layo nga pala hehe...

bilhin mo na kasi. sali ako dyan ha? dalhan ko na lang si sir locoroco

naku sana abutan ko pa hehe....

[casper357]

*jess

salamat bro kala ko kung anu na yun..