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    #531
    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    yup, eto ang bagong hot topic ngayon sa power mods, remapping ng ECU. bone stock na montero from 156hp to 217hp sa dyno...that's whooping 61hp increase! at 30k investment, so ang cost/benefit ratio bale nasa P491/hp (30k/61hp). kung titingnan, mura ng investment kesa tuning chip na 25k pero you get only say max of 20hp.
    Wheel HP payan, may 10% (conservative) drivetrain loss pa, so aabot ng 240hp ang crank HP.. grabe, hindi kaya sumabog na makina nyan?
    Last edited by glenn_duke; March 6th, 2014 at 11:23 PM.

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    #532
    Quote Originally Posted by prince777 View Post
    Sir Humabol, kung gusto nyo ipare-map nyo na ECU nyo sa Speedworks Engineering. Hot topic ngayon sa kabila yung 220whp montero! :D


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    Ndi po ba makakapekto yan sir pagdating naman sa durability ng makina and sa ecu mismo?

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    #533
    Hello po Sirs...

    newbie po dito and while reading the backthread, sa forums in 2014 montero...nabasa ko po itong topic na ito and interesting...

    Quote Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA View Post
    Ndi po ba makakapekto yan sir pagdating naman sa durability ng makina and sa ecu mismo?
    Sir Humabol ka,


    ECU, small computer box and the brain part of engine, which regulates the performance(HP/Torque) and fuel/air mixture.
    it will not really affect the durability of the engine, rather the operational function...

    kasi ang ECU, pwede po ito i-modify by means of computer....

    pwede po ito i-degrade or upgrade, kung gusto taasan ang HP, or the Torque, or both, pwede rin ang fuel/air mixture.
    and pwede rin i-adjust lahat...

    still the durability still depends kung paano po dadalhin ng driver ang sasakyan.

    kung normal driving, it will not affect the durability...
    pero kung hard driving na ang usapan, dyan na po papasok ang wear and tear, and the durability limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Wheel HP payan, may 10% (conservative) drivetrain loss pa, so aabot ng 240hp ang crank HP.. grabe, hindi kaya sumabog na makina nyan?
    Kung ang magdadala ng monty with remapped ecu, without the major modification to the engine system, kung pedal to metal ang gagawin at laging red-line sa RPM and push the engine to it's limits..

    possibly, pwede po mangyari na mag-explode ang makina

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    #534
    Quote Originally Posted by playplugg View Post

    possibly, pwede po mangyari na mag-explode ang makina
    imo, whoever did the remapping, they are a reputable tuning shop. its their business to tune your car and harness its full potential. hindi naman nila i-tune ang makina mo to the extent na sasabog na kapag ginawa nila yan na mag-explode ang makina may business pa ba sila?;) they are experts and trained sa pag-tuning so alam nila threshold o safe limits ng engine mo. the moment na dalhin mo sasakyan mo like say your Montero, they already know hanggang saan lang kayang abutin ng makina mo.

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    #535
    Quote Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA View Post
    Ndi po ba makakapekto yan sir pagdating naman sa durability ng makina and sa ecu mismo?
    regarding durability, i think kahit pa 500hp output makina mo kung di mo palaging pwersahin durable at tatagal yan. tendency kasi kapag malakas ang makina masarap humataw at typical ang aggressive driving so wear and tear mabilis din. pero kung normal driving ka pa rin at gamitin mo lang yung extra power during overtaking and once in a while Italian tuning hindi na masama...;)

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    #536
    Hi guys,

    Im Im about to get a Montero GLX AT (1st choice) next week.. I actually have a scheduled test drive tom. I tried reading all the post of this thread from page 1, but had to stop at page 22 due to information overload

    I get the feeling that I have to add a lot of things pa pala:

    Initially I was just intent on installing a back up sensor & camera, and possibly enable the GPS. The I read about an aircon filter thing. And I totally forgot about installing the tint on this.

    How much would it cost me to the the ff from the casa as I dont want to mess up any warranty of any kind:
    1. Back up sensor
    2. Back up camera
    3. Ac filter
    4. GPS chip

    Optional
    5. Spare tire cover


    I have a few issues that bother me bec although this is the base model be it AT. Its a huge amount of investment for me.

    1. That sudden acceleration issue - is it still happening?
    2. Smoke belcher nga ba even though relatively new. - I have seen a couple of units emitting black smoke
    3. Lumbar support - I have a really bad back
    4. What the best tint. I need something dark yet clear from the inside. I know 3m is good, what about vkool, ba yun?

    Thank in advance. My apologies for the strait forward questions. My thoughts are a mess at the moment. Im very excited to get this pero medyo praning on so many things.

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    #537
    Hi to everyone,

    Im seriously considering a 2014 GLX AT. Im going to test drive it tom. If all goes as planned I'll seal the deal this month.

    I actually started to read all the post from page 1 but simply had to stop upon reaching page 22 of this thread. Information overload

    I figured I dont need the added power of a GLS model since I seldom go out of town (which could change with this vehicle).. However I do want some of the features like the rear sensors and gps. With that in mind could someone give me an estimate of how much the ff will cost if I get it straight from the dealer. I dont want to void any kind of warranty:

    1. back up sensor
    2. back up camera
    3. gps

    Likewise

    4. What tint can you recommend. I need something dark for security reasons but still very much visible from the inside I have poor eyesight without my glasses.

    Lastly are I read some post about the ff. could someone answer this for me:

    5. Does the driver seat have poor lumbar support - I have a really bad back.
    6. I noticed some relatively new Montero's emitting black smoke.
    7. Is the sudden acceleration thing a real concern ?

    Thanks in advance.

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    #538
    1 and 2 - no choice. sa casa lang magkabit para may warranty. although double ang price nila
    3 - pm sir louie. he has sd card for gps for half price compared to casa or winterpine. no warranty issue yan kasi memory card lang yan

    6 - pm sir zix for egr blanking
    7 - i don't believe in that

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    #539
    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    imo, whoever did the remapping, they are a reputable tuning shop. its their business to tune your car and harness its full potential. hindi naman nila i-tune ang makina mo to the extent na sasabog na kapag ginawa nila yan na mag-explode ang makina may business pa ba sila?;) they are experts and trained sa pag-tuning so alam nila threshold o safe limits ng engine mo. the moment na dalhin mo sasakyan mo like say your Montero, they already know hanggang saan lang kayang abutin ng makina mo.
    Thanks Sir monty_gtv for the correction and clarification.


    300% agree po, all of the engines have it's limits and hindi naman talaga po sasabog...hehe, rather a material failure pag abusive use na ang sasakyan, yes and must be done by trained and professional people para gawin ang mga mods sa engine..


    correct me sir if im wrong if my understanding sa and diesel chip?!...

    pagkakaintindi ko po, kung lalagayan ng diesel chip, parang add-on program lang sya to enhance the ECU?!


    parang na-tempt tuloy po ako na magpa-remap ng ECU..hehe yun lang baka ma-explain why ako at ma-void ang warranty..hehehe

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    #540
    Quote Originally Posted by playplugg View Post
    correct me sir if im wrong if my understanding sa and diesel chip?!...

    pagkakaintindi ko po, kung lalagayan ng diesel chip, parang add-on program lang sya to enhance the ECU?!

    parang na-tempt tuloy po ako na magpa-remap ng ECU..hehe yun lang baka ma-explain why ako at ma-void ang warranty..hehehe
    sir playplug, yung mga diesel chips ay iisa lang function niyan, i alter nila yung voltage signal sa fuel rail pressure sensor para i-trick yung ecu na dagdagan yung fuel pressure o agahan ng delivery. may mga sensors kasi na nagdetermine during combustion kung anong time i-inject yung fuel at certain pressures at nakalink lahat yan sa sa fuel rail pressure sensor. so kapag may chip ka, lalakas ang power kasi i-signal ng chip sa ecu na kulang pa fuel pressure but in fact kung nasa stock ok na. so parang niloloko lang nung chip yung ecu to signal na kulang pa yung fuel pressure. again, may limit yung fuel pressure kada type ng makina, kapag sumobra sa set parameters ng ECU mag-register ng error o check engine light. so hindi ka dapat lalampas sa set parameters ng makina mo.

    about ecu remap, they have a software that enable the tuner to change the preset parameters programmed inside the ECU. they are trained specialists and the exclusive and authorized shop to use the software kaya mahal din ang singil nila. you risk of voiding your warranty if in case magkaproblema ang makina at ma-trace ng casa na nasira yung part caused by the remapping. be reminded na ang casa once may masirang part na covered ng warranty, they will always find a way to blame the fault to you both chipping ang remapping ay may risk na ma-void warranty mo. pero depende pa rin sa casa yan, ang dami ng naka chip wala pa naman ako nabalitaan na totally nasira at na void ang warranty. imo, sa remapping naman, as long as it is done professionally and within the limits ng sasakyan at walang problema, di na malalaman ng casa yan. during PMS di naman nila i-check yung ECU kung may binago ba sa parameters

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