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    #1561
    ^happened to me twice in 2 different car makes, both automatic. instinctively in both cases i reacted by making sure theres no foot on any pedal to arrest the abrupt acceleration then press the brake hard for a complete stop

    composure and quick thinking prevented any damage thats why im leaning more on human error

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    #1562
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Parang kulang sa safeguards yung Montero shift lever. Naalala ko kasi Ford F-150, dapat apakan brakes para maka shift from N to D & from D to R. Yung Manual car ko nga clutch start para di mag lurch forward. Hirap kasi pag low end vehicle kagaya nito, tinitipid yung dapat hindi.
    Nope. I've driven several... errh... dozens of American automatics, and you can shift from D to N and N to D while the car is moving. No brakes required. You only require brakes to get into "P"

    You can also start most automatics in neutral. It's only recently that they've created locks that require you to be on the brakes while starting the car... and even then, you can start the car in neutral... blissfully unaware that the car is not in Park, step on the gas thinking it's the brake, and shift into drive and drive straight into a 7-11.

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    What I find appalling in the video is the apparent lack of awareness of both drivers. The first driver actually stops the car at one point with the gearshift still in reverse and the car only held in place by the handbrake!

    It seems very likely that the first driver parked it in "N" rather than "P"... the rest is history. Or hysteria. Whichever comes first.
    Last edited by niky; November 27th, 2015 at 09:21 AM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #1563
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    i think hindi nga marunong sa A/T. possibly sanay sa M/T where if you depress the clutch, you can "pump" the accelerator. then baka nagulat sa A/T when he stepped on the accelerator, ayun, SUA na.



    kawawa nga yung pusa haha! nagwawala after nung SUA
    Yep, exactly. Specially if the guy is used to the throttle response of a diesel revo or an old L300 van for example.

    TV Patrol reports tabloid news so I don't expect much from them. It does provide inspiration for people with less gray matter. See how far one anchor has gone even without it.

    24 Oras is more responsible with more brains but still tabloid news. Good thing there's CNN Philippines. I hope more people watch so they can make more local content.

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    #1564
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Here is the link I found. Any other links?

    Abante Online - Out of Order: Problemado ang Mitsubishi sa kanilang Montero SUV


    "The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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    what is also disturbing here is the reality that DTI is a lameduck agency in a case like this-- that it doesn't have an oversight function. to our dear lawmakers, arrest this hiatus by passing the necessary legislation.

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    #1565
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    May stopper ba ang Montero sa pagpalit ng gear?

    Parang the flash naman yung pag lipat from R to D given na kelanngan mo pa umapak sa preno at ilipat sa D?

    Saan kaya iniwan nung first driver yung gear? P or N?

    simple lang bro:

    1. Vehicle was Parked. "P"
    2. new driver get the driver's seat.
    3. LEFT FOOT on Brake (just to release the shift from P to R,N or D) and RIGHT FOOT on accelerator.
    4. Since nag-rev na ang MS, pag release ng P going to P, R, N, or D, alam mo na ang mangyayari.
    5. Maybe the driver is looking at the stickers on the shift. not looking at the damn parking area.
    6. Nung nabangga na, nakalimutan na ang shift nakalagay na sa D.
    7. Na-rattle, shocked. Press more on Brake <--Accelerator (assuming he remembers that only Right Foot should be used in driving A/T)

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    #1566
    Yun mga takot na sa montero nila, I'm willing to buy it for P500k each. Para mawala na sa kamay ninyo yun killer SUV.


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    #1567
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Nope. I've driven several... errh... dozens of American automatics, and you can shift from D to N and N to D while the car is moving. No brakes required. You only require brakes to get into "P"

    You can also start most automatics in neutral. It's only recently that they've created locks that require you to be on the brakes while starting the car... and even then, you can start the car in neutral... blissfully unaware that the car is not in Park, step on the gas thinking it's the brake, and shift into drive and drive straight into a 7-11.

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    What I find appalling in the video is the apparent lack of awareness of both drivers. The first driver actually stops the car at one point with the gearshift still in reverse and the car only held in place by the handbrake!

    It seems very likely that the first driver parked it in "N" rather than "P"... the rest is history. Or hysteria. Whichever comes first.
    If this is the case that it's safe to assume that your key was left on the ignition. Mine is 2015 glx A/T..dimo matatanggal ang key pag hindi naka- "P"

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Nope. I've driven several... errh... dozens of American automatics, and you can shift from D to N and N to D while the car is moving. No brakes required. You only require brakes to get into "P"

    You can also start most automatics in neutral. It's only recently that they've created locks that require you to be on the brakes while starting the car... and even then, you can start the car in neutral... blissfully unaware that the car is not in Park, step on the gas thinking it's the brake, and shift into drive and drive straight into a 7-11.

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    What I find appalling in the video is the apparent lack of awareness of both drivers. The first driver actually stops the car at one point with the gearshift still in reverse and the car only held in place by the handbrake!

    It seems very likely that the first driver parked it in "N" rather than "P"... the rest is history. Or hysteria. Whichever comes first.
    If this is the case that it's safe to assume that your key was left on the ignition. Mine is 2015 glx A/T..dimo matatanggal ang key pag hindi naka- "P"

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    #1568
    i have a 2010 ms pero same lang naman ang pagshift sa pajero fm at focus hb. siguro ang difference lang na nakita ko is pwede mo hugutin ang susi ng ms kahit sa neutral mo patayin yun oto.

    about sa SUA, i was rearended by a jeepney sa pajero and after the impact, nagrev ng todo yun accelerator. cant recall kung nakatapak ako sa accelerator pero baka hindi since papahinto ako sa side ng banggain ng jeep na nagovertake sa kasunod ko rin na isa pang jeep. luckily nasa shifter yun kamay ko so upon impact, nashift sa neutral so kahit nagrev eh hindi kami sumalpok sa pader.

    siguro kaya mas prone ang ms compared sa fort is yun shifter. gated kasi yun sa fort so mas aware at mas maprevent yun unintended shifting.

    about dun sa white ms. mukhang driver error talaga. independent naman yun brake system sa transmission saka sa fuel system delivery kaya highly unlikely na malfunction ng sabay-sabay in my opinion.

    baka sanay sa mt yun driver. clutch at accelerator ang timpla sa atras abante sabay hawak sa shifter

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    #1569
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyderz View Post
    simple lang bro:
    3. LEFT FOOT on Brake (just to release the shift from P to R,N or D) and RIGHT FOOT on accelerator.
    I never use my left foot when driving an A/T (may gumagawa ba talaga nun) Even driving a manual, my brother told me to keep my left foot on the foot rest.

    BUT re the SUA, are they saying ALL of those cases are drivers error?

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    #1570
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Yun mga takot na sa montero nila, I'm willing to buy it for P500k each. Para mawala na sa kamay ninyo yun killer SUV.


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    hehehe! pareho tayo sir. nagscout nga ako sa olx lalo na yun 4x4. pamamalit ko sa fm pambukid

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I never use my left foot when driving an A/T (may gumagawa ba talaga nun) Even driving a manual, my brother told me to keep my left foot on the foot rest.

    BUT re the SUA, are they saying ALL of those cases are drivers error?
    I know, right? But remember those days na halos mg cutting classes tyo dahil lang sa arcade games? Me isang game doon na kailangan mong gamitin left foot mo sa brake, at right foot sa accelerator para mabilis takbo mo..siguro sanay syang gamitin pareho hahaha!

    When I was on casa, ready to take my Monty out, SA and technical leadman who toured me to my car, REMINDS me that, "HUWAG NA HUWAG MONG GAGAMITIN LEFT FOOT MO SA PAGDADRIVE NG AUTOMATIC. MADIDISGRASYA KA LANG!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I never use my left foot when driving an A/T (may gumagawa ba talaga nun) Even driving a manual, my brother told me to keep my left foot on the foot rest.

    BUT re the SUA, are they saying ALL of those cases are drivers error?
    I know, right? But remember those days na halos mg cutting classes tyo dahil lang sa arcade games? Me isang game doon na kailangan mong gamitin left foot mo sa brake, at right foot sa accelerator para mabilis takbo mo..siguro sanay syang gamitin pareho hahaha!

    When I was on casa, ready to take my Monty out, SA and technical leadman who toured me to my car, REMINDS me that, "HUWAG NA HUWAG MONG GAGAMITIN LEFT FOOT MO SA PAGDADRIVE NG AUTOMATIC. MADIDISGRASYA KA LANG!!!"

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    #1572
    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    hindi lang fortuner kamo kundi sa libu-libong sasakyan na automatic transmission. kahit anong brand at body style.

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    hindi lang fortuner kamo kundi sa libu-libong sasakyan na automatic transmission. kahit anong brand at body style.
    Yes I just stated the fortuner to at least give equal statistics more or less.

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    #1573
    Quote Originally Posted by unmarked View Post
    Pero sabi nga ni topgear ph sa pinas lang may SUA cases. Lahat ng ibang bansa na kumukuha ke thailand, tayo lang din ang meron. At baket wala sa strada, since shared ang drivetrain nila.
    The car is made in thailand for asian region.
    The driver is made in the Philippines. Do the math.
    I'm pinoy btw.

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    #1574
    Mukhang hinde pinagbigyan si kabayad noli de Castro na mag jump sa pila ng all new Montero, kaya kukunin na lang niya sa sapilitan and free. [emoji16]


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    Quote Originally Posted by gundam View Post
    The car is made in thailand for asian region.
    The driver is made in the Philippines. Do the math.
    I'm pinoy btw.
    only thais can drive thailand-made vehicles correctly?
    please!!!

    btw... who else are left-hand drivers in the region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I never use my left foot when driving an A/T (may gumagawa ba talaga nun) Even driving a manual, my brother told me to keep my left foot on the foot rest.
    if you want to test 0--100 kph times, or there is this jerk beside your car with a pineapple can exhaust revving his engine sa stop light, hell yeah! left foot on brake right foot on accelerator with engine revved up to maximum torque...

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    #1577
    I have been an M/T driver eversince I started driving more than 20 years ago. Owning M/T cars before and now two Honda Civics, an M/T FD and an SiR, I liked the sticks. Just this year, I begun driving my wife's car, an A/T Vios and only use my right foot for the brake and the accelerator with pivoting motion just like driving an M/T. I have never used my left foot when I drive the Vios, though when Go Karting I use the left foot to brake.

    Going back to this case, I have no idea how the Montero's brake and gas pedal are positioned. Are they in an awkward position where you could mistakenly step on the wrong pedal. The behavior of our feet when driving relies on "muscle memory", where our foot "remembers" where the pedals would be. Even the amount of force (the "feel") we exert on the gas and brakes rely on muscle memory. Driver No. 2 possibly had a "muscle memory" of a different car (brake and gas pedals unlike the Montero's), thus, instead of pressing on the brakes, baammm! he stepped on the gas instead..and the rest was mayhem. Driver should be thankful no one was hurt...Just my two cents:-)

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    #1578
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyderz View Post
    simple lang bro:

    3. LEFT FOOT on Brake (just to release the shift from P to R,N or D) and RIGHT FOOT on accelerator.
    Drag racing. Drop clutch yo! Then panicked.

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    #1579
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I never use my left foot when driving an A/T (may gumagawa ba talaga nun) Even driving a manual, my brother told me to keep my left foot on the foot rest.

    BUT re the SUA, are they saying ALL of those cases are drivers error?
    the video did raise questions for me...
    the black smoke and the absence of brake lights.. did the driver really step on the brake as he claims? the video suggests otherwise.
    ..verbal claims versus video record..
    i can only imagine how that gives credence to the other complainants' claims.
    ... it is a class suit...

    my thoughts only.

    and that left foot on the brake issue? leave it be, folks. it's not illegal. if you can't do it safely, that does not mean no one can.

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    #1580
    Bakit puro duda pa rin ang iba dito. Ayan na nga't may video na ng katangahan..

    Bakit kamo sa montero lang? Simple lang yan. May isang bobong gumawa ng issue na SUA sa montero, and then nabangga si montero owner, ay na-sua din ako (gaya nitong si white montero).

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