Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[HUMABOL KA]

ok lets say may problem nga ung sensor pero hindi dapat umandar ung sasakyan kung nakalagay sa "P" or "N" ung A/T nila kahit anong apak mo jan maririnig mo lang umiingay ung engine

sabi din dto hindi aandar yan basta ilagay mo sa "N"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeWO0QefnSI

[StockEngine]

Daming buy back yan kung idiot driver lang ang dahilan.

Excellent points by Junesp111.

Yeah.

1. So many montero incidents
2. Many buybacks.
3. ______

I'm still collecting info hehehe

[welscua]

Kung may log yan makita ng engineer yan kung inapakan yung accelarator yung pag change ng voltage (0-5 volts) sa sensor will be in span of 0-5 seconds (ramp voltage), pero pag may defect ang sensor, nag spike yung voltage, yung 0-5 volts will be in few milli seconds and it will stay at 5 volts for a few seconds.

No need to do an actual test. The Engineer can simulate the signal of any damaged sensors. They can easily inject those spikes anytime they want and observe the effect. But, usually, these electronics have built-in protection for spikes otherwise those ECUs will go haywire when a mobile phone is used near it or noise, stray signals have entered the system. At any rate, I am sure that the system and program have fail-safe mode. They would have anticipate the failure of any sensor and what should be the mitigating action of the system. More so, these ECUs have self-diagnostic program that can easily show any fault or failure of any sensor kaya yung hindi maintindihan na electronic problem ng sasakyan ay dinadala sa casa para ma diagnose.

[spotdog11]

Yeah.

1. So many montero incidents
2. Many buybacks.
3. ______

I'm still collecting info hehehe

It is a common practice in any company to agree to settle complaints from customers even though the company does not agree with the issue raised. The purpose is to avoid bad publicity which might affect its normal operation or sales. Have you not heard of insurance companies who settle claims of big clients despite the absence of requirements? They are simply looking at the bigger picture. Imagine if mitsu did not do those buybacks, they would have had terrible sales of the montero since 2010 when this sua issue started. My point is that doing buybacks does not mean they admit the defect, its just a strategy to protect their business.

[glenn_duke]

Daming experst ngayon sa sensors, kahit ang basis ay from cases of different car make and models.
Maganda sana sagutin din kung bakit Phil MS lang ang may mga faulty sensors (?) at wala ni isang case sa ibang MS sa ibang bansa.
Lahat naman ng MS sa Asia ay assembled sa Thailand. Iba ba ang parts na ginagamit pag Phil MS?

Kung lahat ng parts ay similar sa lahat ng MS across Asia, then malamang ang faulty ay yung mga sensors ng mga Philippine drivers, na hindi naman kataka taka.

[Junesp111]

Just my own theory:

The accelerator pedal is sending signal (0 to 5 Volts, Analog signal) to ECU , then ECU will send signal to throttle (5 volts max. throttle).

The D, P, N, R sensor is sending digital signal (1 or 0, On or Off) (equivalent voltage of this signal is 0 & 5 Volts) to ECU then ECU send signal to the engine base on the position (D,P,N,R).

In scenario that the signal wire of accelerator pedal is grounded to the signal wire of D, P, N, R sensor, when you shift your gear position (D, P, N, R ) your accelerator pedal signal wire will have a 5 volts reading, meaning the engine is in full throttle even if your not pressing the accelerator.

Just a theory.

[Junesp111]

Daming experst ngayon sa sensors, kahit ang basis ay from cases of different car make and models.
Maganda sana sagutin din kung bakit Phil MS lang ang may mga faulty sensors (?) at wala ni isang case sa ibang MS sa ibang bansa.
Lahat naman ng MS sa Asia ay assembled sa Thailand. Iba ba ang parts na ginagamit pag Phil MS?

Kung lahat ng parts ay similar sa lahat ng MS across Asia, then malamang ang faulty ay yung mga sensors ng mga Philippine drivers, na hindi naman kataka taka.

Pwede mag cause ng sensor failure yung humidity which is very high dito sa Pilipinas.

[HUMABOL KA]

And again babalik nanaman sa dating tanong na kung talagang may problema nga ung sensor ng montero eh "bat sa montero lang bat sa strada hindi nangyayari un" eh electronically and mechanicaly identical cla

[dct]

Nagkaroon kasi ng bug yung sensor ng utak ng mga driver na ito. Yun lang yon

[spotdog11]

Pwede mag cause ng sensor failure yung humidity which is very high dito sa Pilipinas.

What about the brakes sir? How could it fail and leave no trace after the incident? What about the brake lights? A stuck throttle is not uncommon in older cars with accelerator cable. It was never an issue since majority of old cars were MT. The focus should be on the brakes since it is a separate system and powered by hydraulic pressure. A stuck throttle would not be an issue if the driver is only stepping on the brake pedal.