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    Quote Originally Posted by
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    Kahit na moot and academic, I will still greatly affect the All new MONTORO's sales... Naka tatak na yan sa Ibang consumers...
    affect... yes. probably.
    greatly affect.. i don't think so. it looks so menacingly good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Kahit na moot and academic, I will still greatly affect the All new MONTORO's sales... Naka tatak na yan sa Ibang consumers...
    Pati narin 2nd hand market ng montero. Baka bababa resell value nito. Ito ang concern ng ibang montero owners

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    affect... yes. probably.
    greatly affect.. i don't think so. it looks so menacingly good...
    Malaman natin... Total sales ng monty this coming 1st quarter of 2016

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    I know a few A/T drivers, right foot on the gas. Left foot on the brake. Kapag rattle ka na... Wala na.

    Also a few manual transmission drivers na Hindi sanai sa automatic. Sa toyota revo A/T namin, upper half brake means release clutch. The car goes even faster on a downhill. Press Brake harder and you get the car stoppped

    We just need some time to read, learn and understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Malaman natin... Total sales ng monty this coming 1st quarter of 2016
    if they offer real huge discounts to fan their sales bragging rights... who knows...
    i might even be persuaded to cross over.. SUA my gluteus...!
    Last edited by dr. d; November 25th, 2015 at 01:24 PM.

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    The TGP post and other investigation already nullified the SUA myth. Kung yun thourough na ang testing pero hindi pa din maniwala yung iba, then whatever we say here will not change their mind.

    La ka naman talaga mapapala sa mga fanbois.

    But one thing I know is yung puwede mo ishift to D ang AT without stepping on the brakes opened up chances for accidents. But lahat naman siguro tao dito tinuruan na always step on the brakes diba. Kaya wala dito naSUA eh. So unintended pa ba or nataranta lang? Hahaha

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    We should never stop questioning. Always challenge the status quo. That is how we innovate and improve. Kung walang nag question about SUA baka di nadagdagan ng collision management feature ang new montero. So fact or farce man, may ma gain pa rin ang consumer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post

    But one thing I know is yung puwede mo ishift to D ang AT without stepping on the brakes opened up chances for accidents. But lahat naman siguro tao dito tinuruan na always step on the brakes diba. Kaya wala dito naSUA eh. So unintended pa ba or nataranta lang? Hahaha

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    Ito yung hindi ko maintidihan sa mitsu. Bakit wala ito eh standard safety features dapat ito ng mga A/T

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Pati narin 2nd hand market ng montero. Baka bababa resell value nito. Ito ang concern ng ibang montero owners
    Yan inaabangan ko. Baka ibenta ng pinsan ko ng mura yung gls se nya. Hehehe

    Matagal na akong di naniniwala sa SUA. Mas pagkakatiwalaan ko pa ang electronics kesa throttle cable. Mas madaming failsafe checks na pwede maimplement in software programming.

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    I tried to shift the AT selector of my dad's MS GLX from N to D without stepping on the brakes and it did so, just like other AT cars from other manufacturers. What I couldn't do was shift from P to D without stepping on the brakes. I also couldn't put the vehicle in R from N without stepping on the brakes. It's a late 2013 model MS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_fan View Post
    We should never stop questioning. Always challenge the status quo. That is how we innovate and improve. Kung walang nag question about SUA baka di nadagdagan ng collision management feature ang new montero. So fact or farce man, may ma gain pa rin ang consumer

    New na-see-see through car in Germany

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    a thought just now.
    is the AT montero's shift stick gated, or straight?
    can driver shift from P to R to N to D, in a straight line?
    or do they have to gate it ?

    obviously, it is easier to make a mistake in a straight AT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I tried to shift the AT selector of my dad's MS GLX from N to D without stepping on the brakes and it did so, just like other AT cars from other manufacturers. What I couldn't do was shift from P to D without stepping on the brakes. I also couldn't put the vehicle in R from N without stepping on the brakes. It's a late 2013 model MS.
    They only introduced the brake shift release lock from 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I tried to shift the AT selector of my dad's MS GLX from N to D without stepping on the brakes and it did so, just like other AT cars from other manufacturers. What I couldn't do was shift from P to D without stepping on the brakes. I also couldn't put the vehicle in R from N without stepping on the brakes. It's a late 2013 model MS.
    They only introduced the brake shift release lock from 2012.

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    [QUOTE=Monseratto;2650867]They only introduced the brake shift release lock from 2012.

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    2012 or 2013? Di ba 2013 onwards? Ang 2012 wala pa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    New na-see-see through car in Germany

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    Sana ginawa na nilang see through lahat ng parts.

    Maganda yan sa public transport to minimize hold up incidents. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by outbite View Post
    Kung puro montero kahit driver error - that means may flaw sa design di ba? Kung may flaw sa design why can't MS just go and solve it to stop accidents? if monteros are risking peoples lives - gaano kahirap ba isolve yun? They made so much money with the sales of Monteros in the Philippines.
    It depends on what the flaw is.

    If it's an electronic or mechanical flaw, then yes, they have to do the recall.

    If it's driver error. No. There are thousands of drivers who have no problems driving the MS.

    If it's floor mat entanglement, as they claim in some cases, then there is the possibility of a class action suit if it's proven Mitsubishi knew about the danger of mat entanglement and did nothing to warn the dealers or stop the dealers from offering free floor mats that were out of spec.

    If it's floor mat entanglement by mats that customers themselves installed, there is limited liability for Mitsubishi if it's proven that they did not warn customers sufficiently against installing heavy aftermarket floor mats.

    (pics of a new SUA case)

    (Do you see what I see, heavily folded and rumpled in the passenger footwell?)



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    What's really needed is for the DTI to call in experts for forensic investigation. All they did was accept Mitsubishi's own conclusions on the case. At the very least, an audit of the findings and a recommended plan of action would go a long way to laying the case to rest, whether for or against Mitsubishi.
    Last edited by niky; November 25th, 2015 at 04:37 PM.

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    How about?

    Diesel engine surge <<< caused by dirty diesel.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    It depends on what the flaw is.

    If it's an electronic or mechanical flaw, then yes, they have to do the recall.

    If it's driver error. No. There are thousands of drivers who have no problems driving the MS.

    If it's floor mat entanglement, as they claim in some cases, then there is the possibility of a class action suit if it's proven Mitsubishi knew about the danger of mat entanglement and did nothing to warn the dealers or stop the dealers from offering free floor mats that were out of spec.

    If it's floor mat entanglement by mats that customers themselves installed, there is limited liability for Mitsubishi if it's proven that they did not warn customers sufficiently against installing heavy aftermarket floor mats.

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    What's really needed is for the DTI to call in experts for forensic investigation. All they did was accept Mitsubishi's own conclusions on the case. At the very least, an audit of the findings and a recommended plan of action would go a long way to laying the case to rest, whether for or against Mitsubishi.
    Bro.,- matter of fact,- new MS being sold have this warning on the driver's side, sticker on the lower center "column"....



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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Bro.,- matter of fact,- new MS being sold have this warning on the driver's side, sticker on the lower center "column"....



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    Then that's their fallback when there's proof of entanglement or possible entanglement.

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    Also, surge due to dirty diesel... I'd say it goes the other way. If the dirty diesel reaches the injectors, then you have a dead truck.

    Now if there are solvents or particles that damage the injectors, causing a heavier spray pattern... maybe... but I've never seen an injector failure like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Bro.,- matter of fact,- new MS being sold have this warning on the driver's side, sticker on the lower center "column"....



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    Then that's their fallback when there's proof of entanglement or possible entanglement.

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    Also, surge due to dirty diesel... I'd say it goes the other way. If the dirty diesel reaches the injectors, then you have a dead truck.

    Now if there are solvents or particles that damage the injectors, causing a heavier spray pattern... maybe... but I've never seen an injector failure like that.

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