Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[kkreuk18]

Mga bro di ba kung nakayapak tayo sa accelerator e ramdam na ramdam natin ang rev ng makina. Lalo na kung diesel engine, so dapat dun pa lang alam na natin na nakaapak tayo sa silinyador at hindi sa preno

[ClaNker]

Mga bro di ba kung nakayapak tayo sa accelerator e ramdam na ramdam natin ang rev ng makina. Lalo na kung diesel engine, so dapat dun pa lang alam na natin na nakaapak tayo sa silinyador at hindi sa preno

That is if you will rule out the mechanical or electronic problem as one of the possible causes of SUA.

[ninjababez]

got it from pinoydvd.com

[aioshin]

got it from pinoydvd.com

Pag nag mo moist ang ECU box, nag loloko na!. Joke.

But, I was able to read a portion of the previous post related to other brand having SUA, and they involved NASA as the external party to check the code line by line and found nothing wrong. Hope they will do that as well on Mitsu, though not NASA but credible 3rd party organization, seems it will not be solved by power point presentation / simulation / explanation.

[Monseratto]

Even if ABS CBN were to replay every "SUA" accident over and over again, and bring out guestimates/googled results from "experts" w/ questionable background...without scientific proof, those things won't stand up in court.

[Junesp111]

Pag nag mo moist ang ECU box, nag loloko na!. Joke.

But, I was able to read a portion of the previous post related to other brand having SUA, and they involved NASA as the external party to check the code line by line and found nothing wrong. Hope they will do that as well on Mitsu, though not NASA but credible 3rd party organization, seems it will not be solved by power point presentation / simulation / explanation.

From sir Niky post:

Toyotas sensors are set at different voltages. One runs from 0.5 to 4.5V. The other from 1 to 5V. They will always be reading different voltages through the range of motion of the pedal.

Some manufacturers use reversed sensors... one reading 0-5V, the other reading 5-0V as the pedal is run through its range of motion.

Base on this 2 sensors reading opposite each other di pwede yung sensor ang dahilan ng SUA kasi pag nag fail one of the sensor yung ECU will not response, kailangan may movement yung voltage sa dalawang signal wire ng accelarator pedal.

Example how the engine interpretes the signal:

Senor A = 0.5 volts , Sensor B=4.5 volts - Engine running Idle
Senor A = 4.5 volts , Sensor B=0.5 volts - Engine running full throttle
Senor A = 2.5 volts , Sensor B=2.5 volts - Engine running half throttle

Kung Firmware or program sa ECU, dapat marami yung apectado na montero.

Pero dito sa diagnosis procedure, it mention that to check the connector and repair. pag may defect yung connector possible result is total ground or partial ground. yung distance ng signal wires, ground and 5 volts is more or less 5 mm inside the connector pag nag ka fault yung connector, for example yung connector has loss connection, it will generate heat to melt the plastic or even metal.

Ok lng pag yung dalawang signal wire na totally ground sa 5 volts or ground the ecu will not response as per sir niky post, pero pag yung signal wires is partially ground to 5 volts, this 2 signal wire will read only 2 - 3.5 volts then the ecu will interprete it that there is a movement of voltage betwween 2 signal wire. kaya yung engine will have an RPM of 3K to 5K base on the voltage reading. kaya 1 of victim say that bigla lang umakyat yung RPM to 3K or 4K.

partial ground is possible dahil pag nag melt yung plastic it will create a small resistance between contact.

pero it needs to be prove at posible mangyari ito.

[chronicle]

Listening to a radio show early today. Abs is really milking this issue.

Kung malapit nga si pnoy sa mmpc, bakit na hype ng husto ang issue. Is their some falling out?

Mabuti na lang, madami ng car dealers aside from toyota and mitsu. Being mitsu the defacto number 2.

At least, kahit papano, may pressure parin ang toyota to improve their current models kung sakaling mag ala nissan ang reputation ng mmpc dito sa pinas.

[Ry_Tower]

Listening to a radio show early today. Abs is really milking this issue.

Kung malapit nga si pnoy sa mmpc, bakit na hype ng husto ang issue. Is their some falling out?

Mabuti na lang, madami ng car dealers aside from toyota and mitsu. Being mitsu the defacto number 2.

At least, kahit papano, may pressure parin ang toyota to improve their current models kung sakaling mag ala nissan ang reputation ng mmpc dito sa pinas.

Sabi lang kasi nila yan. Diba sabi nga nang Malacanang eh nauna namang na-schedule talaga yung sa opening nang MMC factory. At ayaw ni PNoy na maki-agaw pa sa eksena nung mga namatay na SAF. Although I believe he could have cancelled his visit dapat.

So hindi kasama sa issue yang si PNoy.

[leinahtan]

It's an advantage having a montero with the SUA issue on the rocks. The coast will always be clear. Syempre takot sila tumabi dito, so maluwag ang paligid. He he he. I love having another one.

[Luap]

It's an advantage having a montero with the SUA issue on the rocks. The coast will always be clear. Syempre takot sila tumabi dito, so maluwag ang paligid. He he he. I love having another one.

Would love to buy one if the price is right[emoji1]

[Monseratto]

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/indus...e-in-39-tweets









Can any motoring gurus here give a background on this Jake Arellano?

[ClaNker]

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/indus...e-in-39-tweets









Can any motoring gurus here give a background on this Jake Arellano?

Abogado yang taga salita ng MMPC? At bakit ayaw nila kay Jake Arellano?

[Mguy]

Ano say nyo dito?

https://www.facebook.com/howell.tan....4750646438736/

[minicarph]

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/indus...e-in-39-tweets









Can any motoring gurus here give a background on this Jake Arellano?

I know some people from Central Diesel, Years ago, our family's starex van was running sluggishly, Hujndai casa by just tinkering diagnosed it na turbo daw. And they want to replace it to the tune of 60k, excluding labor.

So we seek a third party mechanic to dismantle the turbo, and ordered parts from banawe, unfortunately, seiring and fronte dont have the parts and it will take a month for parts to come in.

In hyundai ph forums, i came upon a thread about a central diesel, they vouched for them . So why not coconut, one month naman iiintsyin, so I borught the dismantled starex turbo there.

Pagpunta ko dun, they were too busy to test my unit, a mechanic and a manager inspected the turbo unit visually snd told me that's not defective. What! Sabi ko how csn you tell by just looking at iit? Gsnito na lang sabi nila, have it assembled back the turbo to our stsrex, and bring the entire starex van to ther place in QA.

Long story short kelangan lang pala ng linis ng starex which casa misdiagnosed kagad as faulty turbo to earn big bucks.

They never (central diesel) charged me sa checkup. i saved 60k on turbo.

And i never did bring the starex back to them kasi ngs confident sila na hindi turbo ang sira. They are an honest bunch with the some of the biggest machine shops I've seen dedicated for diesel engines.

So malamang takot nga ang Mitsu sa kanya, becusse they're honest people.

[kamote25]

anu kaya magiging results ng investigation? if stop selling upto 2015 model, paano kaming mga nagmamaneho pa...?

[car_fan]

Sinearch ko dito sa tsikot, mukhang may ari sya ng isang shop that specializes on diesel engine. Wala lang ako mabasa kung anong credentials nya.

[ClaNker]

Sinearch ko dito sa tsikot, mukhang may ari sya ng isang shop that specializes on diesel engine. Wala lang ako mabasa kung anong credentials nya.

So that means Jake Arellano has technical know how and MMPC lawyer is objecting? What the hell are you doing MMPC?!

[car_fan]

Could be. I saw some comments about him in the forums and some say that this person knows his stuff.

[ClaNker]

Could be. I saw some comments about him in the forums and some say that this person knows his stuff.

I hate what MMPC is doing, I mean DTI hearing lang yan and you want to dig your own grave.

[car_fan]

I hate what MMPC is doing, I mean DTI hearing lang yan and you want to dig your own grave.

True! Or probably, mmpc did not bring any engineers with them to counter whatever argument this jake brings to the table. Still, a bad move from Mmpc.