Just tried if I could shift gears on my Mazda without stepping on the brakes. Turns out I can go from P to R to N to D to M without stepping on the brakes. Not that I would though.
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November 29th, 2015 11:18 PM #1
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November 30th, 2015 12:07 PM #2I don't want to make an a$$ of myself and pretend to sound very technical.
Hindi kaya dahil gated type ang shifter ng Toyota? In a way kahit paupuin mo yung tanga medyo mapapaisip? Hehe
And again how come no stradas involved?
They are one and the same aren't they?
Nag aaya yung tropa ko mag Vigan kami next week, break-in ng Monstero niya haha game kako! Palitan kami mag drive.
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November 30th, 2015 04:47 PM #3Parang walang connection ang gated type shifter. Dami matic na sasakyan sa kalye na hindi gated type shifter and yet we don't hear them having SUA problems. Sample na lang mga ito: Crosswind, Revo, Civic, Pajero -- lahat puro straight line type transmissions.
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November 30th, 2015 12:09 PM #4For bro CVT:
any updates with the letter you sent with mitsu phils?
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November 30th, 2015 01:57 PM #5Hindi purkit same Ang technology... Same na din ang quality and issues or problems nyan... Mitsu, Toyota or ford.. They share the same technology but have different manufacturers....
Kaya kung sa Toyota, Walang SUA, it doesn't follow na sa Mitsu wala na din SUA...
Kung ang Toyota Mitsu ford may turbo-- it doesn't mean Pag madali masira turbo Ni ford... Madali na din masira turbo ni Toyota or Mitsubishi....
Bakit naman sa strada walang SUA? It shares the same flatform with the MONTEro---
Edi Sana Yung mga nababanga din sa strada-- blame nalang nila ang SUA pag nabanga Sila...
Tanong ulit-- bakit sa monty Lang?
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November 30th, 2015 02:13 PM #6SAME PLATFORM, SAME ENGINE, SAME TRANSMISSION, SAME ECU ang MONTERO SA STRADA. ano bang nag cacause ng sudden acceleration kung meron man eh dba mainly sinisisi nila sa engine nag wild bigla xempre ano ba nagpapaandar sa ENGINE NGAUN ECU DBA hindi din aandar yan kung hindi din natin isasama ang transmission. so kung lahat yan may depekto sa montero bakit sa strada hndi nangyayari un? eh kung ENGINE,TRANSMISSION,ECU paguusapan identical na identical yang dalawang yan. hindi lang MITSUBISHI gumagawa nian kahit TOYOTA,FORD,CHEVROLET,ISUZU nakabase din lahat ng ladder frame SUV nila sa mga PICK up truck nila, at kaya nga ginawa ng CAR MANUFACTURER un PARA MAKATIPID CLA SA GASTOS, kung gagawa ulit cla ng ibang technology para sa ladder frame SUV nila lalo lalaki gastos nila, ngayon ung nga ang tanong kung may depekto ang MONTERO BAKIT SA MONTERO LANG BAT SA STRADA HINDI NANGYAYARI YUN?
at kung qualities lang din naman pala pag uusapan dapat nga mas malaki ung probability na sa ibang bansa din eh may nababalitang SUA dn dahil IISANG FACTORY lang naman pinanggalingan nila sa THAILAND lang naman oh PANO MAIIBA UNG QUALITY NG IBANG MONTERO SA PILIPINAS AT NG MONTERO SA IBANG BANSA KUNG IISANG FACTORY LANG PINAGGALINGAN valid cguro un kung dto pa sa pilipinas gnagawa ung montero
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November 30th, 2015 06:24 PM #7Question-- CBU na dumadating dito ang montero? Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA
Eh ang strada? CBU din ba?
Ano ang ginagawa pa ng local Mitsu dito satin pag dating ng strada?
Ano din ang ginagawa nilang quality control? Same din ba? Isa Lang ba?
Isa Lang ba ang manufacturing plant ng Strada at montero? Sa Thailand?
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November 30th, 2015 06:30 PM #8 Originally Posted by glenn manikis
WOW hahaha ikaw lang ata ang katangi tanging hindi nakakaalam na ang strada at monty ay CBU galing thailand at malamang bago dalhin yan dto sa pilipinas ilang katakot takot na extensive quality control ang pinagdaan nyan bago dalhin dto sa pilipinas international product yan dun palang kung may depekto yan hindi na nila papayagang dumating pa sa kung saang bansa yan
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November 30th, 2015 07:40 PM #9Ha? Hindi purkit alam mo, alam na Lahat ng tao dito... Masyado kang affected... WOW... Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA
Ganyan naman ang Mga fanboi...? They think the best na Lagi ang sasakyan nila... Walang defect.. Walang problema... Until makagamit sila ng iba.. At ayun nanaman ang best suv para sakanila.
Hindi papayag? Weh? Bakit Taga mitsibishi ka ba?
Walang SUA ang MONTORO? Bakit ikaw ba mismo ang nakasakay dun at nakita mo na sa gasolina talaga nakatapak?
Ilan taon ka na ba? Bata....
At haharang pang bata Lang ang comment na alam mo..
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November 30th, 2015 08:16 PM #10Ha? Hindi purkit alam mo, alam na Lahat ng tao dito... Masyado kang affected... WOW... Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA
Ganyan naman ang Mga fanboi...? They think the best na Lagi ang sasakyan nila... Walang defect.. Walang problema... Until makagamit sila ng iba.. At ayun nanaman ang best suv para sakanila.
Hindi papayag? Weh? Bakit Taga mitsibishi ka ba?
Walang SUA ang MONTORO? Bakit ikaw ba mismo ang nakasakay dun at nakita mo na sa gasolina talaga nakatapak?
Ilan taon ka na ba? Bata....
Sagot mo nalang tanong ko... And with proof..
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November 30th, 2015 09:00 PM #11I wrote a couple of Letters of Complaint, through email. Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow
The first one to the Manager of Customer Service; The second one to the President and Chief Executive Officer, both of Mitsubishi Motors Philippines....
No response from either of them. I will make a tracer email first hour of business tomorrow.... It should be their responsibility to acknowledge receipt and then to respond.
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November 30th, 2015 02:13 PM #12hmmm.....iba ang muscle memory ng montero? Originally Posted by glenn manikis
ewan ko lang kasi kung manual, left foot ay para sa clutch at right foot para sa accelerator at brake. in any event na gustong magpreno, lilipat ang RF from accel to brake. yung mga kamay ay sa manibela, kambyo at iba hand-actuated controls.
kung automatic, ganun pa rin ang muscle memory dapat sa right foot. si left foot tulog lang. same function for the hands.
pero pedal misapplication is a low probability..........yet high consequence scenario ika nga.
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November 30th, 2015 07:05 PM #13Not just technology. Many manufacturers use the exact same electronic parts, including the pedal sensors. This is why I'm not keen on the electronic explanation. Originally Posted by glenn manikis
If there is a design flaw, it has to be a physical one.
And then you start asking, why not the Strada, which is physically identical as far as controls go?
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November 30th, 2015 07:52 PM #14And then someone's gonna mention the different buyer demographics and media hype singularly focused on the Montero, then someone's gonna go back and say it's an electronic issue, and then driver error, then "why not Fortuner", and then AT interlock, and then "why not Strada", and the cycle continues. [emoji23] Originally Posted by niky
Not just technology. Many manufacturers use the exact same electronic parts, including the pedal sensors. This is why I'm not keen on the electronic explanation.
If there is a design flaw, it has to be a physical one.
And then you start asking, why not the Strada, which is physically identical as far as controls go?
This is getting awfully long in the tooth. [emoji42]
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November 30th, 2015 08:05 PM #15Just saw another Montero SUA segment from Abscbn, they repeated the statement again to engrain it to the minds of viewers "In SUA Situations, pressing the brakes will not cause the brake lights to light up"(or something to that effect) I wanted to scream.
Anyway, re the highway where the car is already in motion and SUA occured, wish they could tell us whether those units had cruise control?
I personally dont want cruise control as I have no experience with it and I worry about that feature going in the fritz when I don't expect it and I don't know how to react.
They presented a lady who did have SUA while on SCTEX as mentioned in the segment of Abscbn. She said the engine revved and she couldnt stop it so she simply let go which cause her to go over the barriers of SCTEX and tumble down the side of the hill. I believe during the segment she specifically mentioned she couldn't push down the brakes so I am curious whether something got lodged under the brake pedal.
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November 30th, 2015 11:17 PM #16And then somebody else will point out that it has happened to the Fortuner. And the Everest. And the Civic. And, apparently, the Avanza. Originally Posted by jut703
People are afraid of Monteros? I'm scared ****less of absolutely everyone else on the road.
In this case, the likely culprits are either pedal entrapment by the mat (which would partly explain why the brakes couldn't be pressed, because the mat is bunched up under the pedal) or a sticking gas pedal... at full throttle, there is no vacuum to feed the brakes, which means the pedal gets very, very hard. Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17
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But, this is on gasoline cars, which have a throttle... turbocharged cars typically have no vacuum, and turbodiesels have no throttle plate... so the Montero Sport would likely have a vacuum pump. Which still introduces a second failure necessary to make all of that happen.
In the end, however, it's still possible for the brakes to glaze and overheat if she didn't firmly press down on the pedal and rode them lightly while the car was accelerating.
This particular case, however, was most likely not driver error. What remains to be seen is whether it was physical pedal entrapment by mat or a mechanical pedal failure. Which, again, would require proper documentation of the crash scene, including the interior of the vehicle and the pedal assembly.Last edited by niky; November 30th, 2015 at 11:37 PM.
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November 30th, 2015 08:05 PM #17I was watching my dog chase his tail awhile back. Reminds me of the SUA arguments in this thread. Originally Posted by jut703
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December 1st, 2015 09:51 AM #18Nasagot na yan eh, hindi ka ata nagbackread mabuti. Different kind of buyers/users. Originally Posted by glenn manikis
Common denominators for MS are old people, hindi pa masyado sanay sa AT cars. Dami kaya mga owners nang SUV ay old people na retired na at yung mga magulang na niregaluhan din nang anak dahil naging successful na.
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December 1st, 2015 11:21 AM #20sa philstar meron din silang full page ad nilabas Originally Posted by kinyo
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