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    #1301
    Even those with the brake shift lock are not spared from SUA... or I guess there are certain things those "safety" features can't "overide"...hehehe

    Keiyo Capioso contacted me about their SUA accident. It is a Montero 2014 model! Mitsubishi has not solved their SUA problem up to now.

    On April 9, 2015 or a week ago, his Mom came home from SM Southmall and about to drive their Montero inside the garage backwards. But it suddenly accelerated. She then decided to shift to D, it again accelerated...she decided to turn it left to hit their neighbor's fence rather than hit anybody on the road. Luckily no one was hurt.

    Same dealer Citimotors Alabang. same people talked to them. same analysis....driver's fault....hehe Another lover of Montero.

    I am posting this to make people aware that we are not the only one who suffered this SUA problem...many in the past...hope there are no more. Property damages can be fixed but lives cannot be brought back.

    I am really looking forward to the house hearing filed by Cong Rudy Farinas this May. Hope that this will open up the minds of Mitsubishi officers to fix this problem asap once and for all...go on with our lives with clean conscience.
    Last edited by Monseratto; November 25th, 2015 at 07:41 PM.

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    #1302
    Quote Originally Posted by car_fan View Post
    Bigotry at it's finest.
    bro, di naman siguro bigotry yan. it's not intolerance of one's belief or opinion.

    people here as i understand it is talking about safety. not only safety of the driver but also to all motorists and pedestrians.

    we know the reason why on AT cars or even MTs (left foot is on the clutch), yung right foot ay para sa brake at sa gas pedal. that is the right thing to do and i don't want to make the obvious apparent. that's the intention of car makers. just because yan na ang kinagisnan ng katsikot natin dito, it doesn't mean it's correct.

    and why we are here? because we want to learn from people who have the same interest. no man is an island. we learn from people we interact each day (even minicarph).

    now, it's not yet too late to change bad habits. as what GM said, safety is our foremost concern on the road, and it is everyone's concern.

    ang mali kahit na araw-araw mong ginawa yan di yan maging tama.

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    #1303
    Ayan nag palabas na uli abs cbn, may cctv footage, umaatras si montero bigla unarangkada, then pagka bangga, bigla naman unandar pa abante, tapos bumangga uli medyo napaisip ako dun ah

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    #1304
    Quote Originally Posted by jadenbanas View Post
    Ayan nag palabas na uli abs cbn, may cctv footage, umaatras si montero bigla unarangkada, then pagka bangga, bigla naman unandar pa abante, tapos bumangga uli medyo napaisip ako dun ah
    may youtube link ba nyan?

    btw, tumingin ako ng second hand montero AT sa OLX, parang di naman masyadong nagmura. Bili ako ng 2012 model, pwede na kaya 100k ang asking price. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadenbanas View Post
    Ayan nag palabas na uli abs cbn, may cctv footage, umaatras si montero bigla unarangkada, then pagka bangga, bigla naman unandar pa abante, tapos bumangga uli medyo napaisip ako dun ah
    may youtube link ba nyan?

    btw, tumingin ako ng second hand montero AT sa OLX, parang di naman masyadong nagmura. Bili ako ng 2012 model, pwede na kaya 100k ang asking price. LOL

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    #1305
    Quote Originally Posted by iceblueyes View Post
    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that

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    I drive AT cars with my left foot on the brakes, whats wrong with that
    driving with left foot on the brake is a very rare case. but i believe on this because our CEO is driving his car with left foot on the brake.

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    #1306
    Ngayon naniniwala Na Ako na HUMAN error NGa yan SUA na Yan..!!!

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    #1307
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Ability to adjust?

    When it comes to safety remember...

    There's no room for error..
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    #1308
    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    bro, di naman siguro bigotry yan. it's not intolerance of one's belief or opinion.

    people here as i understand it is talking about safety. not only safety of the driver but also to all motorists and pedestrians.

    we know the reason why on AT cars or even MTs (left foot is on the clutch), yung right foot ay para sa brake at sa gas pedal. that is the right thing to do and i don't want to make the obvious apparent. that's the intention of car makers. just because yan na ang kinagisnan ng katsikot natin dito, it doesn't mean it's correct.

    and why we are here? because we want to learn from people who have the same interest. no man is an island. we learn from people we interact each day (even minicarph).

    now, it's not yet too late to change bad habits. as what GM said, safety is our foremost concern on the road, and it is everyone's concern.

    ang mali kahit na araw-araw mong ginawa yan di yan maging tama.

    Pedals are designed that way because usually the clutch and the accelerator have a compulsory inverse relationship especially on start else your car will do a minor SUA and can possible damage the internals. This is the "timpla" part the new drivers usually have a hard time with.

    Brakes, not so much. If the ground was flat enough you do not need to engage then release before you could depress the accelerator. If the road was long and empty you also do not need to engage the brakes when you release the accelerator to come to a stop eventually.

    AT pedals are that way so that people familiar with MT can immediately operate the vehicle. Plus the fact that they usually share the same platform and internals with MT hence some stuff have their place should be where it should be.

    And again with this safety safety safety. As a famous quote would go, Do you guys even read to comprehend or just read to reply?

    For me, it is normal hence those "dangers" you state do no apply to me. Those are for drivers who are used to driving MT and are UNABLE to "adjust" because of "muscle memory" "kasanayan" etc... what have you.

    I HAVE NOT stated or implied that my technique was the best for everyone. I have just said that FOR ME it was most logical. If others find it so then good, if not then good also.

    I agree with JM, hinde pa naman bigotry ito, its pretty minor. Just close mindedness.

    All of this just because I just asked why glenn thought my technique was "gunggong". Yes, sure maybe I was aggressive with my statement but geesh. Look at you guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    bro, di naman siguro bigotry yan. it's not intolerance of one's belief or opinion.

    people here as i understand it is talking about safety. not only safety of the driver but also to all motorists and pedestrians.

    we know the reason why on AT cars or even MTs (left foot is on the clutch), yung right foot ay para sa brake at sa gas pedal. that is the right thing to do and i don't want to make the obvious apparent. that's the intention of car makers. just because yan na ang kinagisnan ng katsikot natin dito, it doesn't mean it's correct.

    and why we are here? because we want to learn from people who have the same interest. no man is an island. we learn from people we interact each day (even minicarph).

    now, it's not yet too late to change bad habits. as what GM said, safety is our foremost concern on the road, and it is everyone's concern.

    ang mali kahit na araw-araw mong ginawa yan di yan maging tama.

    Pedals are designed that way because usually the clutch and the accelerator have a compulsory inverse relationship especially on start else your car will do a minor SUA and can possible damage the internals. This is the "timpla" part the new drivers usually have a hard time with.

    Brakes, not so much. If the ground was flat enough you do not need to engage then release before you could depress the accelerator. If the road was long and empty you also do not need to engage the brakes when you release the accelerator to come to a stop eventually.

    AT pedals are that way so that people familiar with MT can immediately operate the vehicle. Plus the fact that they usually share the same platform and internals with MT hence some stuff have their place should be where it should be.

    And again with this safety safety safety. As a famous quote would go, Do you guys even read to comprehend or just read to reply?

    For me, it is normal hence those "dangers" you state do no apply to me. Those are for drivers who are used to driving MT and are UNABLE to "adjust" because of "muscle memory" "kasanayan" etc... what have you.

    I HAVE NOT stated or implied that my technique was the best for everyone. I have just said that FOR ME it was most logical. If others find it so then good, if not then good also.

    I agree with JM, hinde pa naman bigotry ito, its pretty minor. Just close mindedness.

    All of this just because I just asked why glenn thought my technique was "gunggong". Yes, sure maybe I was aggressive with my statement but geesh. Look at you guys

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    #1309
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Naiintindihan mo ba kung bakit same ang orientation ng pedal ng AT trans respective to your right foot? For safety reasons! You're supposed to let go of the gas when you press the brakes.



    Wait, that's the same principle for manual trans. Surprise!

    Ikaw na ang invertor ng sasakyan. Lol

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    #1310
    May galit ba ang abscbn sa Mitsubishi? Araw araw na lang kasi nasa news ang montero sua

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    #1311
    For the past few days, I get paranoid whenever a Monty is behind me. [emoji16]

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    #1312
    Have a colleague who drives an AT Montero. Surprisingly, she is not aware of this issue. Because of her dedication to her work, she probably does not have time to watch the news[emoji15]. She said that she cannot change from P to D unless she is depressing the brake. Similar to my Toyota, this appears to be a safety feature that should prevent the theory of human mistake in some of these SUA cases. There's probably some truth to some of the cases. Also, during her last PM, she had a sticker/reminder from the Casa to "always depress the brake when changing from P to D" or something like that. I will confirm exactly what was written in the sticker.

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    #1313
    I have a high school classmate who i knew bought a Montero a few years back. During our reunion more than a year ago, i asked him why he bought a new Fortuner since i knew he already had a Montero. He told me that he sold the Montero and bought the Fortuner because he got involved in an accident with the Montero. According to him, he put the transmission in Park while he waited for the light to turn green. He shifted to Drive while stepping on the brake when the light turned green. The Montero suddenly accelerated overpowering the brake and unfortunately hit a pedestrian who was a few feet in front of his car. Luckily, there were no injuries to the pedestrian but his montero had light scratches on the hood near the front bumper. He sold the Montero and bought the Fortuner. He had no clue about other drivers of Monteros experiencing sudden unintended acceleration until i told him about this thread. Nagulat siya na hindi pala unique experience niya.

    I personally have no brand loyalty but i had 1 nissan (datsun), 2 hondas ( civic, CR-V), 1 Acura MDX ( when i was still living in New York) in the past. I currently drive a 2003 Honda Accord and a 2012 Mitsu Pajero BK. I have no issues with my Mitsu Pajero. I personally recommended my younger sister not to buy a Montero last year because of this thread and my classmate's experience. My elder sister on the other hand owns a 2011 Montero and so far so good.

    Will my Pajero be my last Mitsubishi? Probably not. But one thing is sure, I am not going to buy the current Montero nor recommend it to other people. As for the latest generation, i would have to wait and see....

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    #1314
    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    I have a high school classmate who i knew bought a Montero a few years back. During our reunion more than a year ago, i asked him why he bought a new Fortuner since i knew he already had a Montero. He told me that he sold the Montero and bought the Fortuner because he got involved in an accident with the Montero. According to him, he put the transmission in Park while he waited for the light to turn green. He shifted to Drive while stepping on the brake when the light turned green. The Montero suddenly accelerated overpowering the brake and unfortunately hit a pedestrian who was a few feet in front of his car. Luckily, there were no injuries to the pedestrian but his montero had light scratches on the hood near the front bumper. He sold the Montero and bought the Fortuner. He had no clue about other drivers of Monteros experiencing sudden unintended acceleration until i told him about this thread. Nagulat siya na hindi pala unique experience niya.

    I personally have no brand loyalty but i had 1 nissan (datsun), 2 hondas ( civic, CR-V), 1 Acura MDX ( when i was still living in New York) in the past. I currently drive a 2003 Honda Accord and a 2012 Mitsu Pajero BK. I have no issues with my Mitsu Pajero. I personally recommended my younger sister not to buy a Montero last year because of this thread and my classmate's experience. My elder sister on the other hand owns a 2011 Montero and so far so good.

    Will my Pajero be my last Mitsubishi? Probably not. But one thing is sure, I am not going to buy the current Montero nor recommend it to other people. As for the latest generation, i would have to wait and see....
    curious, when he sold the montero did he tell the buyer the real reason why he was selling it?

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    #1315
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
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    Ha.. Ha.. Ha... You are so kinky talaga sister....

    Malapit na magbigayan NG bonus...

    May pambile ka na Ng gamot mo sister....

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    #1316
    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    I have a high school classmate who i knew bought a Montero a few years back. During our reunion more than a year ago, i asked him why he bought a new Fortuner since i knew he already had a Montero. He told me that he sold the Montero and bought the Fortuner because he got involved in an accident with the Montero. According to him, he put the transmission in Park while he waited for the light to turn green. He shifted to Drive while stepping on the brake when the light turned green. The Montero suddenly accelerated overpowering the brake and unfortunately hit a pedestrian who was a few feet in front of his car. Luckily, there were no injuries to the pedestrian but his montero had light scratches on the hood near the front bumper. He sold the Montero and bought the Fortuner. He had no clue about other drivers of Monteros experiencing sudden unintended acceleration until i told him about this thread. Nagulat siya na hindi pala unique experience niya.

    I personally have no brand loyalty but i had 1 nissan (datsun), 2 hondas ( civic, CR-V), 1 Acura MDX ( when i was still living in New York) in the past. I currently drive a 2003 Honda Accord and a 2012 Mitsu Pajero BK. I have no issues with my Mitsu Pajero. I personally recommended my younger sister not to buy a Montero last year because of this thread and my classmate's experience. My elder sister on the other hand owns a 2011 Montero and so far so good.

    Will my Pajero be my last Mitsubishi? Probably not. But one thing is sure, I am not going to buy the current Montero nor recommend it to other people. As for the latest generation, i would have to wait and see....
    Sudden acceleration overpowering the brake, pedestrian was not seriously injured (Thank God), this do not add up. I'm not saying it's not true but it shows how complicated this issue is. Maybe the SUA event seized abruptly as it started, saving the poor pedestrian.

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    #1317
    I never bothered to ask him how he disposed the Montero. I believe what he had told me about his Montero having known him for more than 2 decades. That was the final nail in the coffin as to why I strongly advised my younger sister about buying the Montero. Mas cheaper daw kasi yung Montero GLX compared to the Fortuner plus she liked the way the Montero looks but my younger sister also knew my classmate so she passed on the Montero. Yung sa elder sister ko naman, well sinabi ko na sa Bro in law ko pero wala naman daw nangyayari sa Montero nila, so bahala na sila. i just hope they wont figure in an accident

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    #1318
    Quote Originally Posted by kmb333 View Post
    May galit ba ang abscbn sa Mitsubishi? Araw araw na lang kasi nasa news ang montero sua
    We have to assume that they are looking after the public's interest as the reason for not letting up on this issue. It's a safety concern after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Sudden acceleration overpowering the brake, pedestrian was not seriously injured (Thank God), this do not add up. I'm not saying it's not true but it shows how complicated this issue is. Maybe the SUA event seized abruptly as it started, saving the poor pedestrian.
    Acceleration overpowering the brake could mean that the SUV could have traveled as fast as 100 km/h sa speedometer OR 1 km/h. As long as tumakbo yung SUV, kahit gaano kabagal ang ibig pong sabihin nung overpowering the brakes........ hindi naman kelangan tumakbo ng 100 km/h para sabihing overpowering the brakes

    I have already met a veteran member of this forum who in turn, personally knew the admins here sa Tsikot. I met him personally sa Trinoma because he had prior experience sa isang business that i was interested in opening up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Sudden acceleration overpowering the brake, pedestrian was not seriously injured (Thank God), this do not add up. I'm not saying it's not true but it shows how complicated this issue is. Maybe the SUA event seized abruptly as it started, saving the poor pedestrian.
    Acceleration overpowering the brake could mean that the SUV could have traveled as fast as 100 km/h sa speedometer OR 1 km/h. As long as tumakbo yung SUV, kahit gaano kabagal ang ibig pong sabihin nung overpowering the brakes........ hindi naman kelangan tumakbo ng 100 km/h para sabihing overpowering the brakes

    I have already met a veteran member of this forum who in turn, personally knew the admins here sa Tsikot. I met him personally sa Trinoma because he had prior experience sa isang business that i was interested in opening up....

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    #1320
    Quote Originally Posted by kmb333 View Post
    May galit ba ang abscbn sa Mitsubishi? Araw araw na lang kasi nasa news ang montero sua
    Pare pareho lang naman pinapalabas araw araw. Naghihintay lang ng pera yan sa mitsubishi. Kaya i really hate the media. Pinipili nila ang ipapalabas. Kaya rin naman mabango ang pangalan ni cory aquino at abnoy dahil sa media e

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