Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

**dreamur** · December 4th, 2015 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by kinyo

Just today, in Manaoag, Pangasinan, another Montero SUA incident occurred. Caused bumper dents on 3 other cars. Owner of the 2010 model is driving himself.

Brought to you by ABS-CBN provincial news. You can expect this on TV Patrol in a few minutes.

Senior citizen ba ang driver?

**kinyo** · December 4th, 2015 07:04 PM

^ mukhang nasa 50's pa lang ... first owner .. red montero, makinis pa

yung pulis sa video mukhang paniwala sa "maling apak"

**Monseratto** · December 4th, 2015 07:08 PM

So sino sasagot sa gastos?

Can an independent agency investigate Montero Sport SUA claims?
posted December 04, 2015 16:00

Is there any group that can step in to investigate the Mitsubishi Montero Sport SUA debacle?

That is the question given that the public is reluctant to accept the findings of the extensive internal investigation of Mitsubishi while the Department of Trade and Industry appears to be ill-equipped to handle it from a technical standpoint.

We thought it prudent to make a call to the national auto club, the Automobile Association Philippines (AAP, formerly the Philippine Motoring Association), to help shed some light on what other options are out there when it comes to investigating the matter.

“MIROS might be able to do it,” was the answer we received from Mr. Johnny Angeles, the Vice President and Chairman of Advocacies of the AAP.

MIROS,or the Malaysian Institute of Road Safety Research, is an organization that does laboratory-based crash testing for the ASEAN region. As such, MIROS is the leading partner in establishing the ASEAN NCAP (New Car Assessment Program), the regional equivalent of Euro NCAP and the U.S. NHTSA.

AAP's Angeles stressed that the Philippines has no capability to comprehensively investigate a road accident or assess cars locally by crash testing.

“During the DTI hearing this past Wednesday, I was invited to attend,” continued Angeles. “At that meeting, I asked the engineers on the panel if we had equipment for forensic accident examination cases like SUA. They said none [Sabi nila wala daw].”

At present there is clamor for an independent technical working group to conduct testing of vehicles that have been attributed to the Montero Sport. The complainants won't retreat from their position that the vehicle as fault while Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation likewise will not change their position that the vehicle is not at fault. The Department of Trade and Industry appears to have inadequate resources -manpower, equipment, expertise, etc.- to effectively mediate the situation while in social media, in dealerships, and on the roads, there is an uneasy feeling with the Montero Sport after one media agency's unrelenting coverage of SUA incidents.

MIROS's/ASEAN NCAP's forte may be crash testing, but Mr. Angeles says it may be possible for them to independently investigate the powertrain of vehicles like the Montero Sport given that the NCAP mandate and mission is to make sure cars sold in the ASEAN region are safe. More importantly, Mr. Angeles says they will be able to work the issue with complete impartiality.

“They don't owe anyone anything [Wala silang utang na loob kung kanino man]. They buy cars from the showrooms randomly to make sure it's not a specially-rigged model for crash testing,” continued Mr. Angeles. “Whatever car it is, they buy it, crash it, assess the aftermath, and then rate it.”

“If the DTI would like and because the AAP is a member and signatory for ASEAN NCAP, we can make a request to MIROS for technical assistance,” concluded Mr. Angeles.
Even MMPC is very open to the participation of any competent and independent group. We contacted Mr. Arlan Reyes for their view on the matter.

“We at Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation would welcome the participation of any independent organization with complete equipment, competent experts, and a scientific approach to test our Montero Sport,” said Mr. Arlan Reyes, MMPC's Manager for Marketing Services, to AutoIndustriya.com.

“We are confident that there is no defect with our Montero Sport.”

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**miked** · December 4th, 2015 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by minicarph

Tinipid nila ang Montero by reviving the 4d56, an old engine. The original Monteros that were released were 4m engines.

Then nabenta nila ng mas mura and maybe stole market share from Fortuner, Ang dami naka-afford ng Montero even girls and newbie SUV truck drivers.

Now, fate is getting back at them with these accidents.

It's either they admit to the public that the 4d56 engine is an old era engine, and re-orient all Montero owners that their car is not as safe as the current crop of cars.

Or they recall the affected Monteros and install the brake shift mechanism.

Or they stop selling the AT Montero. The MT adventure and L300Fb dont seem to have problems.

OB,

yang 4d56 na sinasabi mo e yung traditional diesel fuel injection system (low pressure, 80ish hp,etc.) na nakasalpak sa mga adventure at L3.

yung sa montero, yes 4d56 nga, pero common rail fuel system na. higher fuel pressures, better combustion/emission, higher power, blah blah....lumevel up na ito. ginamit lang yung engine block design ng conventional 4d56.

atsaka ang trend ngayon ng mga manufacturers, sa nakikita ko e higher power density. pababaan ng displacement habang tumataas ang power ratings.

mitsu 2.4 mivec (from 2.8 & 3.2 4M series), toyota 2.4 & 2.8 GD (from 2.5 & 3.0 KD), isuzu 1.9 Ddi (from 2.5 4jk), etc.
.................

yung advie at L3 (old 4d56) kahit apakan mo ng todo ang silinyador e hindi kaylanman papantay sa bilis ng arangkada ng montero (new 4d56)...ni hindi pa nga matatawag na sudden iyong arangkada ng advie at L3.

**Djerms** · December 4th, 2015 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by miked

OB,

yang 4d56 na sinasabi mo e yung traditional diesel fuel injection system (low pressure, 80ish hp,etc.) na nakasalpak sa mga adventure at L3.

yung sa montero, yes 4d56 nga, pero common rail fuel system na. higher fuel pressures, better combustion/emission, higher power, blah blah....lumevel up na ito. ginamit lang yung engine block design ng conventional 4d56.

atsaka ang trend ngayon ng mga manufacturers, sa nakikita ko e higher power density. pababaan ng displacement habang tumataas ang power ratings.

mitsu 2.4 mivec (from 2.8 & 3.2 4M series), toyota 2.4 & 2.8 GD (from 2.5 & 3.0 KD), isuzu 1.9 Ddi (from 2.5 4jk), etc.
.................

yung advie at L3 (old 4d56) kahit apakan mo ng todo ang silinyador e hindi kaylanman papantay sa bilis ng arangkada ng montero (new 4d56)...ni hindi pa nga matatawag na sudden iyong arangkada ng advie at L3.

4d56 = high powered nga. Pati usok hi powered din.

**Luap** · December 4th, 2015 07:49 PM

Dun sa may roundabout ng MOA muntik na ako makabangga ng Jazz, biglang huminto ang loko, akala ko may nabundol sya, pag tapat ko sa kanya tanong ko ano problem kasi nakabukas bintana nya. Sabi sakin di mo nakita yung montero na tumabi sakin? Pinauna ko na mahirap na. Grabe na talaga takot sa SUA

**Junesp111** · December 4th, 2015 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by niky

A partial short with a set resistance has been proposed in the Toyota case, but it has to be an exact resistance so that the two sensors will agree, otherwise limp mode.

And of course, if such a partial grounding or melting occurs, it would leave traces that can be found upon disassembly.

A further proposal is that the short could be due to tin whiskers, which can possibly break off after impact, removing the short, but I do believe there would still be dust or bits of loose tin inside the ECU if this occurs... right?

Yes I agree, its technically possible but this is very hard to prove. kaya its more likely a driver error.

**chronicle** · December 4th, 2015 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Luap

Dun sa may roundabout ng MOA muntik na ako makabangga ng Jazz, biglang huminto ang loko, akala ko may nabundol sya, pag tapat ko sa kanya tanong ko ano problem kasi nakabukas bintana nya. Sabi sakin di mo nakita yung montero na tumabi sakin? Pinauna ko na mahirap na. Grabe na talaga takot sa SUA

This kind of people are the ones that should be taken off the road. Biglang hihinto dahil sa takot sa sua na wala namang scientific proof (yet).

**vvti2.0** · December 4th, 2015 08:06 PM

Kapag intermittent ang issue na ito, ang lalabas dito ay driver's fault.

**Luap** · December 4th, 2015 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by chronicle

This kind of people are the ones that should be taken off the road. Biglang hihinto dahil sa takot sa sua na wala namang scientific proof (yet).

Agree bro, mas nakaka cause sila ng accident. Sudden stop, mang dadamay pa ng iba.

**chua_riwap** · December 4th, 2015 08:39 PM