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    #2181
    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    I ban na lang natin ang automatic. Or charge a ridiculous premium to a/t models. Lets go back to manual all the way. Kapag ganyan, oonte na ang volume ng sasakyan kasi maraming takot mag drive ng manual. Tapos, wala ng sua na issue.

    2 birds in 1 stone.
    Yari ka sir sa mga hindi marunong mag manual..

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    #2182
    Kulang pa ang hataw ng abs cbn. Wala pa kasi akong nakikita sa olx nagbebenta ng 2013 monty na tag 500K lang. 2013 ang hinihintay ko kasi sa 2013 supposedly meron na yung shift lock protection, yung dapat apakan ang brake pedal para magalaw ang kambyo from park. Prior models 2012 below di kelangan apakan, shift lock/knob lang pwede na. Tapos yung BOS o brake override system nila sa 2012 model nag start.

    For me, all Mitsu has to do is to recall the lower year models para iretrofit nila ng BOS at yung apakan ang brake pedal na feature, a lot of issues are solved.
    Last edited by altec; December 3rd, 2015 at 06:04 PM.

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    #2183
    Quote Originally Posted by altec View Post
    Kulang pa ang hataw ng abs cbn. Wala pa kasi akong nakikita sa olx nagbebenta ng 2013 monty na tag 500K lang. 2013 ang hinihintay ko kasi sa 2013 supposedly meron na yung shift lock protection, yung dapat apakan ang brake pedal para magalaw ang kambyo from park. Prior models 2012 below di kelangan apakan, shift lock/knob lang pwede na. Tapos yung BOS o brake override system nila sa 2012 model nag start.

    For me, all Mitsu has to do is to recall the lower year models para iretrofit nila ng BOS at yung apakan ang brake pedal na feature, a lot of issues are solved.
    it might boomerang back to the buyer..
    bagsak presyo ng monty, akyat presyo ng toyota atbp..

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    #2184
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it might boomerang back to the buyer..
    bagsak presyo ng monty, akyat presyo ng toyota atbp..
    Exactly. Our car market needs a solid contender to challenge toyota.

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    #2185
    Quote Originally Posted by xagent_orangex View Post
    in any case, dapat talaga bago mag-shift on whatever gear e nakatapak muna sa preno...or kahit naka-engage man lang yung handbrake...for safety na rin.
    Yan naman nakalagay kasi sa manual eh. So bakit hindi mo susundin diba?

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    #2186
    Quote Originally Posted by altec View Post
    For me, all Mitsu has to do is to recall the lower year models para iretrofit nila ng BOS at yung apakan ang brake pedal na feature, a lot of issues are solved.
    yung mga driver na di marunong mag-drive ng A/T, kailangan din sigurong i-recall ng LTO?

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    #2187
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Yan naman nakalagay kasi sa manual eh. So bakit hindi mo susundin diba?
    The problem with montero is it will allow you to do it, despite of the existing child safety regulation abroad. Sabagay 3rd world country lang naman tayo at dagdag gastos lang yan additional solenoid na yan to comply with the safety standard.

    Remember naglagay na sila ng brake throttle override sa models 2012 and up nila pero walang shift-interlock. They can get away with it dito sa pinas dahil mahina ang regulation natin dito.
    Last edited by ClaNker; December 3rd, 2015 at 07:12 PM.

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    #2188
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Is there any other car brand that you are aware of that allows you to start from N position of gear lever and also doesnt force you to go to P first before pulling out the key from the ignition.
    Isuzu Crosswind XUV 2007 - you can pull out the key from the iginition even if transmission's not in "P".

    Am not sure now, but I think Honda Civics circa mid-90's also allows one to pull out the key from the ignition even when the transmission is not in "P" position.

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    #2189
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Yan naman nakalagay kasi sa manual eh. So bakit hindi mo susundin diba?
    all-knowing kasi yung "JR" ng white montero, sabi pa nga niya matagal na sa kanya yung sasakyan. ayun, sinapian daw kasi ng demonyo kaya ang sinisisi e yung montero instead na yung katangahan niya.



    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    The problem with montero is it will allow you to do it, despite of the existing child safety regulation abroad. Sabagay 3rd world country lang naman tayo at dagdag gastos lang yan additional solenoid na yan to comply with the safety standard.

    Remember naglagay na sila ng brake throttle override sa models 2012 and up nila pero walang shift-interlock. They can get away with it dito sa pinas dahil mahina ang regulation natin dito.
    kahit anong sasakyan naman, kung walang presence of mind ang tsuper, talagang maaaksidente.

    yung bang mga jeep sa kalye sa tingin nyo may mga "safety features?" wala akong nakikitang SUA sa mga jeep ah? (pwera na lang sa ibang klaseng accidents they are involved ha)

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    #2190
    Quote Originally Posted by xagent_orangex View Post
    kahit anong sasakyan naman, kung walang presence of mind ang tsuper, talagang maaaksidente.

    yung bang mga jeep sa kalye sa tingin nyo may mga "safety features?" wala akong nakikitang SUA sa mga jeep ah? (pwera na lang sa ibang klaseng accidents they are involved ha)
    Dapat nga di na rin nilagyan ng brake throttle override ang Montero. Wala din naman silbi yan safety regulation na yan, para lang yan sa mga tangan driver.

    Sa case naman ng Shift interlock eh para lang yan sa mga tangang bata.

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    #2191
    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    Isuzu Crosswind XUV 2007 - you can pull out the key from the iginition even if transmission's not in "P".

    Am not sure now, but I think Honda Civics circa mid-90's also allows one to pull out the key from the ignition even when the transmission is not in "P" position.
    Circa mid 90's naman ang montero eh. 4d56 ba naman eh.

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    #2192
    sabi ng DTI possibleng ipasuri na nila ang monty mula sa ibang bansa, for me mas maganda un

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    #2193
    Quote Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA View Post
    sabi ng DTI possibleng ipasuri na nila ang monty mula sa ibang bansa, for me mas maganda un
    I aggree. Mas ok kung ang ipasuri nila ay yung 30 na binili uli ng MMPC, kaso nagalaw na yun.

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    #2194
    ^ Sino babayad niyan para masuri sa 3rd party? Yung mga complainant, MMPC o ang taxpayer ng Pilipinas?

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    #2195
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    ^ Sino babayad niyan para masuri sa 3rd party? Yung mga complainant, MMPC o ang taxpayer ng Pilipinas?
    DTI yan so yes taxpayers money.

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    #2196
    Hayan, gagawa ang Mitsubishi ng questionable ang safety ng sasakyan at buwis ng taumbayan ang gagastos para lang patunayan na safe.

    Kalokohan na malaki. Dapat Mitsubishi ang magpatunay na safe ang sasakyan nila. Anyway, 3rd world country tayo at walang pangil ang consumers sa mga manufacturers.

    Ulitin lang natin:

    Hello, Toyota D4D initial release. At Toyota fuel tank na nagkaka vacuum.

    Meron rin pala, hi sa mga Isuzu Crosswind 2012 and up na kinakalawang ang mga fuel tanks.

    Wag rin kalimutan ang ECU ng Nissan Frontier Navarra before ng NP300 models.

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    #2197
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    DTI yan so yes taxpayers money.
    Hanep. Taxpayer ng bayan ang magbabayad ng mga 2016 montero ng DTI. How unfair naman eh. Hehehe.

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    #2198
    what if "manalo" ang MMC, kunyari napatunayan na wala talagang defect at human error talaga, pwede ba silang magfile ng counter case dun sa mga nagreklamo at DTI?

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    #2199
    Quote Originally Posted by xagent_orangex View Post
    what if "manalo" ang MMC, kunyari napatunayan na wala talagang defect at human error talaga, pwede ba silang magfile ng counter case dun sa mga nagreklamo at DTI?
    With all their hearts content.

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    #2200
    hahaha ngayon kinoconsider na ng dti at ng mitsubishi na ipasuri mula sa ibang bansa ung montero meron pa rin nasasabi ang tao ano ba talaga? haha

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