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    #2161
    Can anyone else also confirm that the Hyundai Grand Starex doesn't have a brake shift lock but only a button shift lock similar to MS? Tried it on the brother's GS.

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    #2162
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Can anyone else also confirm that the Hyundai Grand Starex doesn't have a brake shift lock but only a button shift lock similar to MS? Tried it on the brother's GS.
    You go to D or R from P unless you step on the brake pedal and press the button.

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    #2163
    Quote Originally Posted by Mguy View Post
    itong video na ito ang makakapagdiin na yung driver ng white montero ay tanga.

    sana makita ito ng MMC at isampal sa muka nung "JR" na yun. nakakabwisit.

    hindi ba dapat "by heart" e tatapak muna sa preno (sa A/T ha, may shift lock man o wala) bago mag-kambyo to P or R? yung JR na yun e mukhang bingi at bulag e, di naramdaman at nakita na sa accelerator siya nakatapak at ang taas na ng rpm nya. bobo talaga.

    kahit sa M/T nga e, from starting the engine going out from the garage, clutch together with the brakes muna bago mag shift to reverse, tapos baba ng handbrake.

    sana magkaroon ng chance na maigisa yung "JR" na yun, himayin yung cctv at ipamukha sa kanya na hindi talaga siya nagpreno during that incident.

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    #2164
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    What will happen if you're moving 100kph and then your 7 year old kid or your crazy girlfriend beside you shift it to R?

    May automatic lock kaya when you're moving in a certain speed?
    masisira yung gearbox mo pag ganun. nasa user's manual din yan ng mga kotse, na huwag gawin yan.

    ang lock nyan is yung button sa shift knob. though yung iba pwedeng ma-move from D to N while on motion yung car. pero D to R, you will need to press the button sa shift knob. so hindi basta basta magagalaw ng crazy girlfriend.

    the white montero driver clearly stepped on the gas, thinking his foot is at the brake pedal, shifts to R...nabangga, nag-panic, sabay hila sa kambyo pababa sa D, apak pa rin sa gas, araro forward.

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    #2165
    Laki talaga ng influence ng media hype. Yung tito ko takot na gamitin Yung montero nya kaya ngayon nag titiis sila gamitin Yung fb l300 nilang service car

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    #2166
    Quote Originally Posted by xagent_orangex View Post
    masisira yung gearbox mo pag ganun. nasa user's manual din yan ng mga kotse, na huwag gawin yan.

    ang lock nyan is yung button sa shift knob. though yung iba pwedeng ma-move from D to N while on motion yung car. pero D to R, you will need to press the button sa shift knob. so hindi basta basta magagalaw ng crazy girlfriend.

    the white montero driver clearly stepped on the gas, thinking his foot is at the brake pedal, shifts to R...nabangga, nag-panic, sabay hila sa kambyo pababa sa D, apak pa rin sa gas, araro forward.
    As if the passenger beside you don't have access to the shifter? and as if they can't press the shift lock of the shifter.

    There's a reason why I put "kid" and "crazy" on my question.

    My point is, for safety purposes, there should be brake lock when you move the shift from P or N to X gears. Prone to accident yung shift lock lang.

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    #2167
    kagabi nakamotor ako tapos pinatigil ako ng isang sikyo kasi may Montero sa aatras mula sa isang parking slot. habang nakahinto ako, may isa pang motor na tumabi sa akin. pinagtripan ko.

    sabi ko dun sa isang nakamotor " . . teka aandar ako ng konti at baka biglang umatras yan..?

    sumakay naman ang mokong sabi sa sikyo eh "...teka Montero yan ba baka biglang umarangkada yan..."

    hahaha

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    #2168
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    As if the passenger beside you don't have access to the shifter? and as if they can't press the shift lock of the shifter.

    There's a reason why I put "kid" and "crazy" on my question.

    My point is, for safety purposes, there should be brake lock when you move the shift from P or N to X gears. Prone to accident yung shift lock lang.
    Sa Myth Busters ginawa nila yan and walang nangyari sa car. Part ata ng safety feature is di mag-eengage yung R gear at certain speeds.

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    #2169
    Yung Mazda3 ko na sky active mag wiwild... Buti hindi pa naka drive..

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    #2170
    Nag sua nga.. 2x na today

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    #2171
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    What will happen if you're moving 100kph and then your 7 year old kid or your crazy girlfriend beside you shift it to R?

    May automatic lock kaya when you're moving in a certain speed?
    From D to R you need to step on the brakes and press the shift lock kaya parang impossible itong scenario

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    #2172
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    What will happen if you're moving 100kph and then your 7 year old kid or your crazy girlfriend beside you shift it to R?

    May automatic lock kaya when you're moving in a certain speed?
    1. kid is banned from sitting in front.
    2. crazy EX-girlfriend.

    haw haw haw!

    i've always wanted to find out. but i'm scared na baka mabasag ko ang trans, if i put on the brakes at speed and push the stick to R...
    Last edited by dr. d; December 3rd, 2015 at 05:12 PM.

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    #2173
    eto montero sakay niya, pero hindi SUA...


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    riding in tandem...

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    #2174
    Just thinking out loud for everyone who is posting here.

    I am curious about those who are posting wild scenarios about "what ifs" in shifting an AT Transmission.

    My question is are you driving an AT transmission vehicle right now? If yes, why is there a need to ask that question? Better acquaint yourself more with your vehicle then.

    In all the AT transmission vehicles I've driven I can shift from N to D or R. I can shift from R straight down to D without going full stop or hard brake first. I can't shift from D to R without going full stop.

    The only "unique" trait about the Montero AT is that I can pull out the key regardless of where the transmission is, be it P, R, N, or D. For Honda and Toyota (that I've driven), I can't pull out the key if it is not in Park. I haven't attempted in a Nissan as I always shift to P, pull the handbrake and turn off the car. The only reason I found out about this trait of the Montero was because my dad left the vehicle in drive on night and couldnt turn the car on the next day so he called me to help and that's when I saw the state the car was in.

    Mitsubishi is the only brand I have experienced where you can start the car in P or N. Since Honda and Toyota prevent you from removing the keys when not in park, logically speaking, when you are getting in to start the car, it is in the position where you left it which is park.

    Is there any other car brand that you are aware of that allows you to start from N position of gear lever and also doesnt force you to go to P first before pulling out the key from the ignition.

    I dont drive vehicles with push button starts so I also don't know how that has changed this behaviour. Especially in cars like the ASX which is Mitsubishi. Care to share anyone?

    Re the topic on SUA : For 2 years, we have minimized the time my dad is behind the wheel of the Montero to almost 0 because he is only really used to driving MT Vehicles. Although there is still doubt that it could be something other than driver error, driver error is still on the high side as to the possible cause.

    My two cents

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    #2175
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    As if the passenger beside you don't have access to the shifter? and as if they can't press the shift lock of the shifter.

    There's a reason why I put "kid" and "crazy" on my question.

    My point is, for safety purposes, there should be brake lock when you move the shift from P or N to X gears. Prone to accident yung shift lock lang.
    kid = human
    crazy GF = somewhat human also
    letting them touch your shifter = human decision

    so the bottom line is, HUMAN ERROR...

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    #2176
    Quote Originally Posted by xagent_orangex View Post
    kid = human
    crazy GF = somewhat human also
    letting them touch your shifter = human decision

    so the bottom line is, HUMAN ERROR...
    i agree.
    you made an error when you allowed these maniacs inside your car.
    heh heh.

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    #2177
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Just thinking out loud for everyone who is posting here.

    I am curious about those who are posting wild scenarios about "what ifs" in shifting an AT Transmission.

    My question is are you driving an AT transmission vehicle right now? If yes, why is there a need to ask that question? Better acquaint yourself more with your vehicle then.

    In all the AT transmission vehicles I've driven I can shift from N to D or R. I can shift from R straight down to D without going full stop or hard brake first. I can't shift from D to R without going full stop.

    The only "unique" trait about the Montero AT is that I can pull out the key regardless of where the transmission is, be it P, R, N, or D. For Honda and Toyota (that I've driven), I can't pull out the key if it is not in Park. I haven't attempted in a Nissan as I always shift to P, pull the handbrake and turn off the car. The only reason I found out about this trait of the Montero was because my dad left the vehicle in drive on night and couldnt turn the car on the next day so he called me to help and that's when I saw the state the car was in.

    Mitsubishi is the only brand I have experienced where you can start the car in P or N. Since Honda and Toyota prevent you from removing the keys when not in park, logically speaking, when you are getting in to start the car, it is in the position where you left it which is park.

    Is there any other car brand that you are aware of that allows you to start from N position of gear lever and also doesnt force you to go to P first before pulling out the key from the ignition.

    I dont drive vehicles with push button starts so I also don't know how that has changed this behaviour. Especially in cars like the ASX which is Mitsubishi. Care to share anyone?

    Re the topic on SUA : For 2 years, we have minimized the time my dad is behind the wheel of the Montero to almost 0 because he is only really used to driving MT Vehicles. Although there is still doubt that it could be something other than driver error, driver error is still on the high side as to the possible cause.

    My two cents
    in any case, dapat talaga bago mag-shift on whatever gear e nakatapak muna sa preno...or kahit naka-engage man lang yung handbrake...for safety na rin.

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    #2178
    Ang tawag dito: "Sudden Unintended Accelerated" Thread. Ang haba na eh [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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    #2179
    I ban na lang natin ang automatic. Or charge a ridiculous premium to a/t models. Lets go back to manual all the way. Kapag ganyan, oonte na ang volume ng sasakyan kasi maraming takot mag drive ng manual. Tapos, wala ng sua na issue.

    2 birds in 1 stone.

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    #2180
    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    I ban na lang natin ang automatic. Or charge a ridiculous premium to a/t models. Lets go back to manual all the way. Kapag ganyan, oonte na ang volume ng sasakyan kasi maraming takot mag drive ng manual. Tapos, wala ng sua na issue.

    2 birds in 1 stone.
    hindi sila takot...
    hindi sila marunong magmaneho ng manual.

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