Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[kisshmet]

^just go to the dealership and step in the brake pedal

[17Sphynx17]

^just go to the dealership and step in the brake pedal

If someone were to video disconnecting the ECU and maybe even other computer boxes from the car temporarily and pressing the brake pedal whether that lights up the brake lights, would that help the case? It simplifies explaining how the brake lights work in showing whether the brakes were pressed or not right? And it would surely be repeatable right?

My two cents

[slapz]

Do you know why sa Montero Sport lang itong issue na ito? It's because of the issues na naglabasan before, years ago pa ata yun, merong iilang complaints about it.

Syempre, kapag sayo nangyari yan, at alam mong merong ganyang issue ang MS before, edi syempre, ikaw na ang magaling, at ang may kasalanan eh yung kotse.

And yes, ang weird lang na merong sudden acceleration na tumitigil nalang din bigla, pagkababa ng driver. ehehe!

Andami ng cases ng mga ganyan, na nababangga, kasi mali ang tapak, Accelerator pala, instead of brake, pero kapag ibang brand, inaamin kaagad ng driver na sila ang mali, pero kapag MS, sus, SUA na. :D

[minicarph]

Oh hayan asenso na, ginawa ko sa app. The forever question ..

[xagent_orangex]

Opinion ko
Drivers error yang problem sa montero kasi according sa napnood kong video di umilaw brake light and nag emit ng very dark smoke dahil baka ang alam niya ay BRAKES siya naka tapak so kung sa accelerator siya nakatapak na akala niya BRAKE pedal kaya fully depress ang accelerator kaya nagalit ang makina ng husto na cause ng pag wawala nito.
Thr video that I am referring is the white Montero that caused chaos in a tight parking space

AND according experience ko sa A/T montero GLS 2010 triny ko N to D habang naka tapak sa gas yun burnout lang so wala akong galit or problema sa Mitsubishi.

paps, hindi "tight" yung parking space. sadyang "tight" lang talaga yung utak nung unang driver...

Tanong ko lang bakit yung mga videos na sinasabing SUA ng montero ay matapos bumangga or bumaba ng driver hindi na nag wild ang makina nito? kung talagang SUA nga diba dapat kahit na nakababa na yung driver ay wild pa din ang andar ng makina nito.

Nakakita ako dati ng nagwild na sasakyan pagkabangga bumaba yung driver yung makina todo pa rin ang andar yung pala sumabit yung throttle cable kaya nag wild. Kaya napaisip ako sa Montero kung bakit tumitigil din yung pag wild ng makina pag nakababa na yung driver or bumangga na.

sinapian daw kasi ng "demonyo", kaya noong bumaba na yung "demonyo", nawala na rin yung sapi.

sa tingin ko, ang pagkakamali ng mitsubishi dito ay ang hindi paglalagay ng additional safety system(shift interlock) sa mga unang labas ng montero.

ang inaantay ko dito sa forum, sa fb at from ABS-CBN ay magreport o post sila ng video ng montero na nag-SUA na walang driver inside the vehicle.

hindi mangyayari yan. to replicate the "SUA", kailangan ng dalawang ingredients: isang montero, at isang driver na moron.

https://youtu.be/4EAsPsB60EU

forward to 7:41

TV Patrol kaso Ilokano dialect.

May demo yung owner ng dealer

obviously, the moron driver of the white montero didn't floor the brakes, instead the accelerator.
saka bakit ito ABS-CBN din, pero parang yung report (7:41) e nasa panig ng MMC? naku yari yan kay kabayad noli de cashtro.

[Ry_Tower]

Eh bakit ABS-CBN din lang mainit dito ha glenn manikis? Pakisagot din nga?

[chua_riwap]

Oo nga. Parang sa ch7 wala namang report sa SUA ng Mitsu.

[jaypee10]

isa lang napansin ko..

parang halos lahat ng complainant ng monster ro daw, eh senior citizen.

[jut703]

isa lang napansin ko..

parang halos lahat ng complainant ng monster ro daw, eh senior citizen.

Already discussed - refer to this post:

Interesting bar graph from NHTSA

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[suvfanatic]

"One media outlet has alleged that there have been 97 cases of Montero Sport-related SUA. After Mitsubishi's investigation, of the 97 only 3 have filed with the DTI. 2 of the 3 have been resolved by the DTI as driver error. 1 more is still under investigation."

http://www.autoindustriya.com/news/m...sua-issue.html

Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation (MMPC) officially said that its Montero Sport vehicles are “free from design and manufacturing defects that could cause sudden unintended acceleration (SUA). This was announced by MMPC during the company’s press conference held at EDSA Shangri-la.

Speaking during the launch, MMPC First Vice President Froilan Dytianquin said that through their investigation, SUA is not possible on the Montero Sport.

“SUA is not possible on the Montero Sport from a technical viewpoint. There are safety check systems on the Montero Sport electronics which will eventually allow the Montero Sport to go to safe mode in case sensors fail,” said Dytianquin.

Aside from Dytianquin, MMPC Sr. Manager Marketing Services Arlan Reyes Jr. and AVP Service Department David Doctor were also preset in the press con.

Since 2011, MMPC said that they have been implementing proactive countermeasures in an effort to adhere the issue at hand. The following countermeasures are the following:

(1) Mandatory use of authorized floor mats.

(2) Technical service letter issuance regarding installation of caution sticker for A/T Montero Sport.

(3) Product Enhancement: Brake Override System (BOS). MMPC explained that if the brake and accelerator pedals are applied at the same time while driving, the engine ECU gives priority to the brakes by shutting off the fuel injection.

(4) Product Enhancement: installation of Shift Lock System. This system prevents the vehicle from being shifted out of the “P” position unless the brake pedal is depressed.

(5) Nationwide Free Check-up. MMPC said that since September 8, 2011 to present, the company have been conducting free vehicle check-up for the Montero Sport.

Dytianquin added that MMPC will support and cooperate with the Department of Trade and Industry’s (DTI) initiative to investigate the SUA issue.

When asked about the upcoming investigation by the DTI, Dytianquin said that the company “believes that the investigation will be fair. We are confident that we will be vindicated after the investigation.”

For now, MMPC said that all Montero Sport owners may visit any of their service centers nationwide for a free vehicle check-up. During the check-up, our qualified personnel will re-orient the owners on the “best and safest way of operating the vehicle.”

One media outlet has alleged that there have been 97 cases of Montero Sport-related SUA. After Mitsubishi's investigation, of the 97 only 3 have filed with the DTI. 2 of the 3 have been resolved by the DTI as driver error. 1 more is still under investigation.

[bhongchel]

may ka club ako naka monty sya,sabi ko wala bang sua yang syo? sbi nya wala naman, sila lang talaga may kasalanan nun.saka minsan yung matting naiipit daw yung gas pedal kya umandar din sya bigla pero na control naman daw nya.

[glenn manikis]

Oh hayan asenso na, ginawa ko sa app. The forever question ..

Sagot Kasi daw..

Human error at MONTORO Lang ang perfect vehicle na walang problema... Kung may magka problema, HUMAN error yan...

[Ry_Tower]

"One media outlet has alleged that there have been 97 cases of Montero Sport-related SUA. After Mitsubishi's investigation, of the 97 only 3 have filed with the DTI. 2 of the 3 have been resolved by the DTI as driver error. 1 more is still under investigation."

http://www.autoindustriya.com/news/m...sua-issue.html

Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation (MMPC) officially said that its Montero Sport vehicles are “free from design and manufacturing defects that could cause sudden unintended acceleration (SUA). This was announced by MMPC during the company’s press conference held at EDSA Shangri-la.

Speaking during the launch, MMPC First Vice President Froilan Dytianquin said that through their investigation, SUA is not possible on the Montero Sport.

“SUA is not possible on the Montero Sport from a technical viewpoint. There are safety check systems on the Montero Sport electronics which will eventually allow the Montero Sport to go to safe mode in case sensors fail,” said Dytianquin.

Aside from Dytianquin, MMPC Sr. Manager Marketing Services Arlan Reyes Jr. and AVP Service Department David Doctor were also preset in the press con.

Since 2011, MMPC said that they have been implementing proactive countermeasures in an effort to adhere the issue at hand. The following countermeasures are the following:

(1) Mandatory use of authorized floor mats.

(2) Technical service letter issuance regarding installation of caution sticker for A/T Montero Sport.

(3) Product Enhancement: Brake Override System (BOS). MMPC explained that if the brake and accelerator pedals are applied at the same time while driving, the engine ECU gives priority to the brakes by shutting off the fuel injection.

(4) Product Enhancement: installation of Shift Lock System. This system prevents the vehicle from being shifted out of the “P” position unless the brake pedal is depressed.

(5) Nationwide Free Check-up. MMPC said that since September 8, 2011 to present, the company have been conducting free vehicle check-up for the Montero Sport.

Dytianquin added that MMPC will support and cooperate with the Department of Trade and Industry’s (DTI) initiative to investigate the SUA issue.

When asked about the upcoming investigation by the DTI, Dytianquin said that the company “believes that the investigation will be fair. We are confident that we will be vindicated after the investigation.”

For now, MMPC said that all Montero Sport owners may visit any of their service centers nationwide for a free vehicle check-up. During the check-up, our qualified personnel will re-orient the owners on the “best and safest way of operating the vehicle.”

One media outlet has alleged that there have been 97 cases of Montero Sport-related SUA. After Mitsubishi's investigation, of the 97 only 3 have filed with the DTI. 2 of the 3 have been resolved by the DTI as driver error. 1 more is still under investigation.

Para sa mga haters at makikitid pag-iisip hindi pa din sapat yang sinasabi mo. Monstero pa din yan.

[Monseratto]

I guess only in the Philippines where the repeated reason by SUA victims "biglang pinasukan ng demonyo yung sasakyan" was more convincing to many than MMPC scientific and engineering explanation.

Hope ABS CBN will play the MMPC's explanation regarding the JR SUA Video

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/indus...-montero-sport

Mitsubishi PH: 'There is no defect in our Montero Sport'

by Dinzo Tabamo - Just now



In a press conference held in Mandaluyong today, Mitsubishi Motors Philippines gave its statement on the accusations hounding its cash cow, the Montero Sport midsize SUV.

There was a long presentation where MMPC identified possible causes of "sudden unintended acceleration":

1. Pedal impediment - When an object (like a floor mat, for instance) jams one or more pedals, preventing normal operation;

2. Pedal misapplication - When the driver unconsciously steps on the gas pedal when he or she really means to step on the brakes;

3. Sticky gas pedal - When the throttle pedal exhibits a tendency to get stuck due to dirt or oil build-up in the throttle body; and

4. Mechanical or electronic failure - When the fuel injectors (mechanical) or ECU feeds more fuel to the engine than is needed.

Note that all of these items are problems not specific to the Montero Sport; any car can suffer from any of these. With the fourth item (mechanical or electronic failure), Mitsubishi said that if this were the case with a Montero Sport afflicted with SUA, that unit would exhibit the problem every single time the driver turned on the engine--and not just rarely or whenever the unit felt like it.

Mitsubishi studied whether any of the above factors could happen to its vehicles, and laid out what it had done and was doing to address the complainants. In the end, MMPC reiterated that its Montero Sport model does not have design and manufacturing defects that could cause unintended acceleration.

MMPC first vice president Froilan Dytianquin was one of the company executives present at the presscon, and he gave a statement on the issue: "Sudden unintended acceleration is not possible on the Montero Sport from a technical viewpoint. There are safety check systems in the Montero Sport's electronics which will eventually allow it to go on safe mode in case sensors fail. Today, you may have noticed that we published another statement acknowledging our support and cooperation with the Department of Trade and Industry’s initiative to investigate this issue. We are also open to any third-party technical diagnosis just to show our confidence in our vehicles.”

In his presentation, one of the slides Dytianquin presented was the now-famous video aired by ABS-CBN, and shown in its entirety on our Facebook page. As with our own observation, the Mitsubishi executive pointed out that the Montero Sport in the clip worked perfectly fine.

MMPC added that this is not the first time this “unfounded issue” has been brought up, but the company still takes each incident seriously. And it has arrived at the same conclusion every time: There is no design defect--mechanical nor electronic--in its product.

A DTI hearing has been set, which MMPC will attend. The carmaker promised to share the findings from this investigation, and would like to assure customers that the Montero Sport is completely safe and reliable, and has no sudden unintended acceleration issues.

For those who currently own a Montero Sport, MMPC is offering a free check-up at any of its service centers. There, its personnel will also reorient owners on the best and safest way of operating the popular SUV.

So there you have it. We’ll give you updates on any future developments on this matter. In the meantime, we hope this gives a measure of reassurance to those who currently drive a Montero Sport.

Photos by Dinzo Tabamo

[Monseratto]

Nope, no mention of MMPC explanation regarding the JR SUA video...

Mitsubishi denies Montero Sport 'defective,' 'unsafe' | ABS-CBN News

[glenn manikis]

May MOntero naka display sa Robinsons-- they are offering 220k discount sa 4x2 vgt--
Parang kulang pa discount...

[_Cathy_]

Payag Mommy ko bilhan daw ako5 ko ng used manual na montero sa P200k :bwahaha:

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[glenn_duke]

isa lang napansin ko..

parang halos lahat ng complainant ng monster ro daw, eh senior citizen.

Yup, majority of the reported alleged Montero SUA incidents are senior citizens, except for 2 which are mid-aged.

Then, may naka google ng graph ng SUA occurence vs age bracket pero hindi specific sa montero, and assumed na ganun din case sa montero, parang ABS-CBN, para lang kunwari mag mukhang expert din sila.

Despite the motoring experts opinion on the MS SUA cases, marami paring narrow minded dito, that still stick to the flawed, adulterated, manipulated story of ABS-CBN. (Sa dami ng taong ganito, nakakatakot baka nga manalo si Binay)

Hindi ma explain, kung ano concern ng mga taong ito, hindi naman sila montero owners. Actually kung meron dapat unang una magalit sa MMPC ay yung mga montero owners, dahil sila ang nasa line of danger if defective nga yung product na binili nila.

Isa lang ang explanation ko sa asal ng mga taong ito "INGGIT".
Karamihan dito either hindi nila ma afford ang MS o meron silang bagong SUV pero in-denial parin na mas maganda yung MS na lalabas. Otherwise, baka sinapian narin sila, as alleged ng driver ng white monty. Dumb minds flock together.

[jut703]

Isa lang ang explanation ko sa asal ng mga taong ito "INGGIT".
Karamihan dito either hindi nila ma afford ang MS o meron silang bagong SUV pero in-denial parin na mas maganda yung MS na lalabas. Otherwise, baka sinapian narin sila, as alleged ng driver ng white monty. Dumb minds flock together.

Since you say that there's only ONE possible explanation for why people are interested in the issue, and that being envy, you're practically implying that everyone wants a Montero or is sourgraping that they didn't get a Montero.

And you have the gall to call everyone in this thread "dumb minds". Oh boy. [emoji28]

Thanks for letting me know that I subconsciously want a Montero. How dumb of me to want any other car. [emoji24]


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[minicarph]

Since you say that there's only ONE possible explanation for why people are interested in the issue, and that being envy, you're practically implying that everyone wants a Montero or is sourgraping that they didn't get a Montero.

And you have the gall to call everyone in this thread "dumb minds". Oh boy. [emoji28]

Thanks for letting me know that I subconsciously want a Montero. How dumb of me to want any other car. [emoji24]


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Uy parang may fire ka ngaun ah,