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    #1401
    Does anyone know if they have a longer version of the cctv footage of the white montero?
    Kasi with that we will be able to ascertain if the brake lights were functioning before the incident. Or even after when they removed the vehicle from the area.

    Yung sa abs kasi its basically confirmation bias, the video didn't really show much.

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    Does anyone know if they have a longer version of the cctv footage of the white montero?
    Kasi with that we will be able to ascertain if the brake lights were functioning before the incident. Or even after when they removed the vehicle from the area.

    Yung sa abs kasi its basically confirmation bias, the video didn't really show much.

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    #1402
    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    In all the cars I've driven that has ABS, the feature activates at all speeds for as long as it detects a locked wheel. So sudden braking on uneven roads even at low speeds will usually trigger it.

    That is what i know as well. My abs activated in a parking lot with painted floor. Kakagaling lang sa labas umuulan.

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    #1403
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Please read your manual. Most ABS systems activate above 10 kph IIRC. The activation is noticeable because there is a light clunk coming from the engine compartment when you reach a certain speed and it is more evident on cold starts. I noticed this sound on a Mirage, a Vios and a 3. It might not be noticeable through the clatter of a diesel engine though.

    So di lang sya nag aactivate sa high speed pwede? As what another forumer said.

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    #1404
    *IBE

    Unconventional but if properly learned technique, pwede. Wala bang prohibitions sa instruction manual or laws sa ganyan.
    Kasi if you step on the brake using left foot, no doubt, brake it is. Hehe. No SUA.
    Confusion is a state of mind. If you think about it, multitasking is more difficult, as they say especially for those with xy chromosomes. 🤔

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    #1405
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post

    Again obvious naman problem eh, yung early model nang MS ay walang brake switch system na kung saan puwede mo i-shift from P to D or R without stepping on the brakes. Pero hindi SUA yan. Yan tingin ko dapat focus nang argument ng mga naaksidente. Dyan may pag-asa sila makakuha hustisya.

    To summarize my point here, possible SUA pero in the case of early MS eh hindi SUA yan imho. The standard safety of brake lever switch was missing and probably the cause of these accidents. Yan ang madali ma-prove para nga may justice naman if ever sa mga na-aggrabiyado.
    I agree with this. Ito yung sinasabi ko na design flaw ng montero. Dapat recall lahat ng montero na ganito. Standard safety feature dapat ito ng a/t car

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    #1406
    Quote Originally Posted by rene_tagle View Post
    mag backread ka e.
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    #1407
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Kaso nga bro kahit hindi impossible, ang tanong eh may naka-prove ba? Hindi ba na sinasabi nang batas na a person (MMC is a legal entity) is innocent until proven guilty.

    Again obvious naman problem eh, yung early model nang MS ay walang brake switch system na kung saan puwede mo i-shift from P to D or R without stepping on the brakes. Pero hindi SUA yan. Yan tingin ko dapat focus nang argument ng mga naaksidente. Dyan may pag-asa sila makakuha hustisya.

    Pero again, tignan din nila manual nila. If nakalagay dun na they should depress the brake first before shifting through gears. Lusot pa din MMC. Bakit? Eh nasa instuction kasi eh na read the manual first before driving. So bagsak nun, sasabihin nang MMC na may neglect on the part of the driver. Just like nung white MS driver sa video.

    Hopefully a lawyer can enlighten us on this since limited lang alam ko sa batas.

    To summarize my point here, possible SUA pero in the case of early MS eh hindi SUA yan imho. The standard safety of brake lever switch was missing and probably the cause of these accidents. Yan ang madali ma-prove para nga may justice naman if ever sa mga na-aggrabiyado.

    BTW i have no car brand loyalty. Just car model loyalty. hehe. I'd buy a 2nd hand Pajero BK or an MuX is I have the funds right now. Ipa-leather ko lang dashboard nang MuX 3.0 4x4 oks na ako.
    Duly noted your point brother. Apoligies if I tried to focus on SUA as there could be other design issues resulting to the problem.

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    #1408
    Actually i want to see the raw video, pati time stamp
    Code, para kasing medyo mabilis yung video not the normal speed

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    #1409
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Burden of proof po ay sa nag-aakusa. kaya kung wala or hindi mapatunayan nang nag-cla-claim nang SUA na nangyayari nga yun sa kotse niya. Nganga siya. The law will favor MMC and that is legal, factual and just.

    Imagine kasi kung gaano lang kadali magsabi nang mali sa isang product without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
    Bro agree. Lets just wait for the lawyers here kung anong quantum of evidence needed dito, this might only be a civil case. Not sure.

    Pero kung yang mga SUA drivers na yan pag sablay mga evidence nyan at pointing fingers lang to escape liability. Kung ako MMPC, counterclaim ko yan ng ciminal case. Hehehe yun ay kung pwede..[emoji16]

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    #1410
    Pwede bang gawin exhibit tong thread na ito sa hearing na gagawin ni colmenares. Ng masagot lahat ni mitsu ang haka haka natin. At nang matigil na ang pagiging eksperto natin? Lol

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