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    #3801
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    I think the driver of the first montero (south bound) that hit the vios was free gliding (no foot on the pedals) down the tunnel at speed of no slower than 50 kph.
    Then when he is near the vios, he mistakenly stepped on the gas pedal thats why the engine starts to rev, and continuously pressing it (flooring) thinking its the brake pedal. That is when he informed his passengers that they have a wayward montero. By the time he hit the vios his speed is now around 80 kph, at that speed, the momentum can cause the vios to behave like a bullet and crossed into the opposite lane hitting the north bound montero that hits Doris pick up. The guy that posted his ordeal in FB is lying, he cant possibly know in certainty that they are travelling at 20 kph, at EDSA, 20 kph is almost bumper to bumper, with no more than 2 car length between vehicles. So if the montero SUAd, he will bumped the vios in under 4 seconds (101, 102, 103, 104) at that amount of time, from 20 kph, the montero speed should be no more than 40kph which doesn't match the extent of the resulting damaged.

    Insurance investigators should check the brakes, and PMS records, maybe the pads are all worn out.
    I will not be surprise if the driver is not the owner, or the montero is not his regular drive unit.

    Really obvious na talagang accelerator pedal ang tapak, dun sa video, hindi kita yung glare ng brake light..


    Since nabansagan na SUA ang montero, ginagamit ng iba ito as "excuse" at taking advantage, para once na ma-accident.. lalo pag-expired ang insurance, eto ang blaming reasoning..

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    #3802
    Ano ba grounds ng SUA vs non SUA pag claim sa insurance ng owner? Pareho naman covered yan regardless diba?

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    #3803
    Quote Originally Posted by playplugg View Post
    Really obvious na talagang accelerator pedal ang tapak, dun sa video, hindi kita yung glare ng brake light..


    Since nabansagan na SUA ang montero, ginagamit ng iba ito as "excuse" at taking advantage, para once na ma-accident.. lalo pag-expired ang insurance, eto ang blaming reasoning..
    haha pag montero involve SUA agad pero pag ibang brand accident lang walang me kagustuhan [emoji23] pinoy o pinoy [emoji122]

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    #3804
    "lagyan ng dashcam ang pidal!"

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    #3805
    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    Ano ba grounds ng SUA vs non SUA pag claim sa insurance ng owner? Pareho naman covered yan regardless diba?

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    Hindi lahat covered ng insurance, once na binasa ang policy..

    ang hindi sagot,

    1. DUI/under-influence ng illegal substance..
    2. Act of War
    3. Sabotage/Intentional, Commiting Crime gamit ang sasakyan.
    4. Expired Insurance

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    #3806
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    haha pag montero involve SUA agad pero pag ibang brand accident lang walang me kagustuhan [emoji23] pinoy o pinoy [emoji122]

    CellphoneKo P200

    Sa mga masa, pag nawalan ng preno ang mga PUV/Trailer Truck, Nawalan ng control at preno..

    Pero pag ang sasakyan ay montero..

    "SUA" lagi ang unang rason..

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    #3807
    at isang katanungan na hindi pa nasasagot eh bakit bigla backout si mitsubishi philippines doon sa usapan nila ng SUA group.... kasi kung wala tinatago dapat open to all test....

    eh nagshoshortcut si mitsu phils........ dinaan na lang sa commercial, kinuha model si tim cone.... eh ngayon meron sua ulit eh yari mga barangay kadamay.... makakantiyawan ko na naman..... baka meron sila play na SUA tapos si cagi the sparkles ang may hawak ng bola.....

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    #3808
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    at isang katanungan na hindi pa nasasagot eh bakit bigla backout si mitsubishi philippines doon sa usapan nila ng SUA group.... kasi kung wala tinatago dapat open to all test....

    eh nagshoshortcut si mitsu phils........ dinaan na lang sa commercial, kinuha model si tim cone.... eh ngayon meron sua ulit eh yari mga barangay kadamay.... makakantiyawan ko na naman..... baka meron sila play na SUA tapos si cagi the sparkles ang may hawak ng bola.....
    "if you have proof, now is the time to show it."
    "don't expect us to prove your case against us."

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    #3809
    Sana ma resolve agad.

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    #3810
    MMPC's conclusion is pedal misapplication due to driver error. But they failed to resolve one cause of pedal misapplication: pedal placement. Drivers are more prone to stepping on the gas since pedals are closer together. Maybe an adjustment in height variance will help.

    Another thing is drivers using slippers or flipflops when driving, can easily get stuck on the pedals. Last time I checked, it's illegal and fineable. I'm willing to bet a good percentage of these SUA drivers were wearing flipflops at the time.

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    #3811
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    Hindi nakailaw yung brake lights.

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    #3812
    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post
    MMPC's conclusion is pedal misapplication due to driver error. But they failed to resolve one cause of pedal misapplication: pedal placement. Drivers are more prone to stepping on the gas since pedals are closer together. Maybe an adjustment in height variance will help.

    Another thing is drivers using slippers or flipflops when driving, can easily get stuck on the pedals. Last time I checked, it's illegal and fineable. I'm willing to bet a good percentage of these SUA drivers were wearing flipflops at the time.
    Bakit malapad ang brake pedal ng automatic compared sa manual? Baka need bawasan yung lapad ng pedal

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    #3813
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Bakit malapad ang brake pedal ng automatic compared sa manual? Baka need bawasan yung lapad ng pedal
    lahat yata ng AT ay ganyan.
    mas malapad ang brake pedal ng AT compared to brake pedal ng MT.

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    #3814
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
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    Hindi nakailaw yung brake lights.
    Exactly my point.

    Kahit hindi nakapasok yung susi sa kotse, you step on the brake pedal == iilaw dapat yan.

    Note red glare coming from the brake lights of vehicles in front.

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    #3815
    SUA man o hindi, we have to admit there's seems to be a problem with the Montero, pedal design maybe???

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    #3816
    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    SUA man o hindi, we have to admit there's seems to be a problem with the Montero, pedal design maybe???

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    Not discounting anything... very possible.

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    #3817
    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Not discounting anything... very possible.
    And may I add, sometimes it's also got to do with the shoes we're wearing when driving, some shoes kasi sobrang kapal ng sole that we sometimes don't feel the pedal or sometimes too wide naman that when you lift you right foot off the accelerator, the shoes sometimes got stuck between the accelerator and the brake pedal, kaya ingat lng din when choosing shoes when you drive.

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    #3818
    Quote Originally Posted by vinrem View Post
    And may I add, sometimes it's also got to do with the shoes we're wearing when driving, some shoes kasi sobrang kapal ng sole that we sometimes don't feel the pedal or sometimes too wide naman that when you lift you right foot off the accelerator, the shoes sometimes got stuck between the accelerator and the brake pedal, kaya ingat lng din when choosing shoes when you drive.

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    Yung MS issue... I'm guessing its a combination of bad habits and bad design that enables something catastrophic to happen.

    But the fact that it isn't happening outside the Philippines probably means in the end... driver error.

    Again, when there's proof otherwise, I'll readily accept it.

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    #3819
    the critics have been thru the car with a fine tooth comb.
    from what i remember, nothing stood out...

    perhaps if an ergonomics expert or movement specialist were enjoined to see...

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    #3820
    Driver competence aside, if the Australian, European, Thai equivalents have no issues whatsoever then there could be something wrong sa conversion nila from right hand to left hand drive.

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