2011 Mitsubishi Montero Sport [ARCHIVED]

[Expatio]

just to clarify sir...

the DiD name for the direct injection technology has just been introduce AFAIK year 2000 together with the introduction of the CK pajero and its not yet a COMMON RAIL system but the technology direct injection technology was introduce to the field master pajero naming it first as DDI...

now, for CRDi technology it was first introduce I think 2004 when the facelifted CK pajero was made available in the market with added numbers in the torque and HP... then the rest is history...

Maybe I am wrong but, (I was not talking about The Philippines) but are you sure the first DI-Ds were not cdi.

The first Mitsubishi DI-D (cdi) engines in Europe were in 1999 (some two years after Mercedes Benz and Alfa Romea) and a quick google check confirms the pajero in '99 had a common rail engine 1999 Mitsubishi Pajero Super Exceed 3200 DI-Diesel specifications - Carfolio.com

AFAIK, The tern DI-D actually means 'direct injection inside diesel tube' (common rail) the 3.2 4M41 ('99) as apposed to the 4M40 2.8 non common rail which came out in '96

[Medallion]

Medyo short pa rin in both HP and torque ang 2011 MS sa 2010 face-lifted SF by 20 HP and 36 N-m in torque, respectively. On the powertrain, the 2011 engine of MS is an upgrade of the existing MS engine. The difference are the installation of new turbo which is already a VGT and as mentioned far above several upgrades in the engine components to handle the additonal HP and torque. Forty (40) HP is quite significant already, thus, congratulations to Mitsubishi and prospective owners. Paddle shifters and 5-speed AT is an added bonus. Though, 0-100 kph of sprint of 12.3 sec is still slower that 2010 SF's 9.8 claimed by the manufacturer. Just a word of caution, since MS has higher center of gravity owing to higher ground clearance maneuvering during high speed runs with the new VGT engine may border already on the unsafe side. Just drive safely, carefully, and most of all defensively.

More power and God bless.

Warm regards.

[Expatio]

Hi Medalian,
It's always nice to have Hyundai fans here.

You state: "Just a word of caution, since MS has higher center of gravity owing to higher ground clearance maneuvering during high speed runs with the new VGT engine may border already on the unsafe side"
Already unsafe side?
Do you know where the actual longitudinal CG the MS is?
Minimum/Maximum ground clearance comparisons do not necessary equate to similar CGs. The lower GC of the Santa Fe is as a result of the somewhat light body being the lowest. On the otherhand the MS's lowest point is it's rear (heavy weight) live axle diff case. Also the MS according to Mitsubishi has the lowest CG in its class.

I have no figures on actual CG of either vehicle, but I suspect they are quite similar. Even if not it is not, it is not the only factor in handling. Tyres, suspension, track and an above all the driver are factors, with the latter being much more important than any other.

In any case to say the 'VGT engine may border on the already unsafe side' is a fabrication and without substance. Either vehicle in the wrong hands; or even a F60 Ferrari in the wrong hands is dangerous. A statement like that is like a politition whose canvassing for an election consists of criticism of his oponent rather than what he has to offer.

The more carlike you make an SUV feel, the higher chance a poor driver will think he is in a saloon and drive it like a saloon. This is probably the reason why there has been so many Range Rover roll over accidents in the last few decades.

If you find you drive either your MS or SF (that you paid for yourself) anywhere near it's maneuvering limits, you are either drunk or you should not have a driving licence in the first place.

[tuazon7]

Newbie here. Noted the nice rims on the white Monty (bit off the thread), can you share the maker and model of those?

[eggman]

pasensya na mga sirs. i had a hard time uploading with photobucket yesterday eh.

Yan pala ang changes/updates sa 2011 VGT na Montero Sport..

[Expatio]

Yan pala ang changes/updates sa 2011 VGT na Montero Sport..

Yeah eggman, they could have given us more. I was expecting a V8 twin turbo and gullwing doors at the very least....

[rmsoriano]

eVGT. Wow.
I presume you understand the difference between real VGT (mechanical) and eVGT (computer controlled). The former more expensive mechanical vgt is controlled by a pressure sensor in the manifold which opens and closes the vanes on the turbo depending on manifold pressure (power required). The latter eVGT is controlled by a wire from the computer. Some people claim it is more efficient IMO it still just opens and closes as you accelerate and decelerate.

Before Hyundai used to boast that they had a crdi engine (like they invented it) when in fact Mitsubishi has crdi (DI-D) for 12 years as has many European manufacturers.

*Expatio, sir some clarification lamang po, Are you telling us that Mitsubishi will use the pure mechanical type VGT to this 4d56 engine? As far as I know, with the introduction of ECU boards to all cars today, actuation to vary the moving vanes (DC motor actuated) can be done by a wire from the ECU. This maybe the same principle use by the Santa Fe, however they termed it "eVGT" as part of the Hyundai trademark. Sir, again, this is just my 2 cents.

[rmsoriano]

Sir if you dont mind kinldy pm me where you got your unit and the color.. citimotors alabang informed me that there are no more glx units left.. hay delaying tactics nila...

Sir If you really want a unit now, try the other dealers. But if I were you, I will just wait for the release of all the 2011 models, including the GLX. I will send you a PM.

[normyline22]

sir anu po ba ang mga price ng montero sport na 2011 variants?

GLS 4x2 1398000

GTV 4x4 1720000

napost na yata eto try to back read a bit

[Tsik-new]

so, yung GLX, walang changes? and same price pa rin in effect?

[normyline22]

haha.. may pint ka jan sir. haha.. nice nag pareserve na.. antay antay na lang ntn boss mapapasakamay na din natin ang monty 2011

yeps isang buwan na lang naman sakasakali.. haha mas okay na yun march ang sinabi sakin tapos mapapaaga kesa first week tapos madedelay

[normyline22]

minimum?

40PS power increase is huge making it substantially faster the top Fortuner 3.0

It's not just MID upgrade; It's a complete multimedia touch screen with sat nav (this has now been deleted as standard on the top Oz spec (xls) model, but it is an option at AU$3,000 (P131,000) with reversing camera

+1 kay sir expatio, VGT + MID + Multimedia touch screen with satnav. I think this is already too much for less than 30,000 increase. I just hope they've replaced the speakers as well since there is a dvd already.

[Walter]

I see Sorry Sir Expatio you can guest I'm not reading this thread much that's why I posted it and I am more excited reading the Hyundai Thread because they are already eVgt but I like the Exterior of Mitsubishi Montero and I am planning to buy one if the price of the new Monty wont get very high if it is true what is posted here then it is really fair enough. Why those SA are telling us different price I called Mitsubishi Cagayan de Oro yesterday they said the price of the new Monty top of line will reached to 1.8 Million which one is true?

Try not to rely on provincial dealers for information. They're not that reliable.

[normyline22]

eVGT. Wow.
I presume you understand the difference between real VGT (mechanical) and eVGT (computer controlled). The former more expensive mechanical vgt is controlled by a pressure sensor in the manifold which opens and closes the vanes on the turbo depending on manifold pressure (power required). The latter eVGT is controlled by a wire from the computer. Some people claim it is more efficient IMO it still just opens and closes as you accelerate and decelerate.

Before Hyundai used to boast that they had a crdi engine (like they invented it) when in fact Mitsubishi has crdi (DI-D) for 12 years as has many European manufacturers.

Well for some reasons EVGT of the Santa Fe is still powerful than the VGT monty? I guess? I mean in terms of speed, acceleration. peace out sir expatio...

[Walter]

Yeah eggman, they could have given us more. I was expecting a V8 twin turbo and gullwing doors at the very least....

Plus there's no sunroof nor keyless push button start.

[Walter]

so, yung GLX, walang changes? and same price pa rin in effect?

No changes, as suggested, try to back read.

[decipher]

Sir If you really want a unit now, try the other dealers. But if I were you, I will just wait for the release of all the 2011 models, including the GLX. I will send you a PM.

thanks sir/.. pmed you back aswell

[eggman]

GLS 4x2 1398000

GTV 4x4 1720000

napost na yata eto try to back read a bit

Mukhang okay ang pricing nila ngayon ha.

Malamang matagal pa magkakaroon ng changes sa GLX 4X2 variant.

[md_alcapone]

good morning to all!!!

I just want to ask where can i make reservation for the 2011 monty, i talked to the SA at Cagayan de Oro and he said that their not accepting any reservations yet and they have no idea with the price.

[Daison77]

Hello Sirs. Newbie here, Planning on getting a new Car or SUV siguro mga May or June. Honestly I already decided that I would get Hyundai Tucson CRDi but seeing and checking out the MS gave me 2nd thoughts. Pricewise halos parehas lang sila, so I really need your opinion on this kung ano mas sulit "overall" in the long run. I'll use the car mostly for daily driving, office-work within Las pinas area lang, hindi naman ako super hataw magpatakbo. Ask ko lang sa mga monty users: 1st. kung more or less magkano maintenance niyo sa monty everytime pa PMS nyo sa CASA or sa labas lang (mahal ba) ?, kse tucson CRDI medyo mahal maintenance as from what I've read from other posts, 2nd. reliability wise and quality of the vehicle, does it mean that yung MS since pang rough road / hauling type of vehicle siya, does that mean na mas matatag sya compared to other SUV's (provided parehas lang ang gamit mo w/other SUV's) ? Sorry kung OT or wrong thread to post, but Im really torn sa 2 vehichles hehehehe. Dont really care much about sa Speed kasi bihira lang ako punta tagaytay, antipolo, bagiuo etc. Im looking for reliability, quality, cost effective (maintenace) etc. so any opinion would be greatly appreciated. Hirap mag decide specially if your going to spend P1.4M for a car. BTW i asked for Price for MS 2011 , unit price nila daw is P1,408,000. less P20k lang daw mabibigay nila kasi bago pa. Thanks