2011 Mitsubishi Montero Sport [ARCHIVED]

[normyline22]

Plus there's no sunroof nor keyless push button start.

Its too hot and too dirty in the Philippines so sunroof is not ideal they did not increase their price that much so its quite impossible to put extra aesthetics.

[normyline22]

good morning to all!!!

I just want to ask where can i make reservation for the 2011 monty, i talked to the SA at Cagayan de Oro and he said that their not accepting any reservations yet and they have no idea with the price.

You have a newbie SA sir. There are lots of SAs accepting reservation here in Manila and with regards to pricing its 1398000 for 4x2 and 1720000 for 4x4 this is what most SA says. but then it could increase a bit or this could be the final. But hasn't been released yet so they don't want to confirm yet.

[normyline22]

Hello Sirs. Newbie here, Planning on getting a new Car or SUV siguro mga May or June. Honestly I already decided that I would get Hyundai Tucson CRDi but seeing and checking out the MS gave me 2nd thoughts. Pricewise halos parehas lang sila, so I really need your opinion on this kung ano mas sulit "overall" in the long run. I'll use the car mostly for daily driving, office-work within Las pinas area lang, hindi naman ako super hataw magpatakbo. Ask ko lang sa mga monty users: 1st. kung more or less magkano maintenance niyo sa monty everytime pa PMS nyo sa CASA or sa labas lang (mahal ba) ?, kse tucson CRDI medyo mahal maintenance as from what I've read from other posts, 2nd. reliability wise and quality of the vehicle, does it mean that yung MS since pang rough road / hauling type of vehicle siya, does that mean na mas matatag sya compared to other SUV's (provided parehas lang ang gamit mo w/other SUV's) ? Sorry kung OT or wrong thread to post, but Im really torn sa 2 vehichles hehehehe. Dont really care much about sa Speed kasi bihira lang ako punta tagaytay, antipolo, bagiuo etc. Im looking for reliability, quality, cost effective (maintenace) etc. so any opinion would be greatly appreciated. Hirap mag decide specially if your going to spend P1.4M for a car. BTW i asked for Price for MS 2011 , unit price nila daw is P1,408,000. less P20k lang daw mabibigay nila kasi bago pa. Thanks

Short input lang since I don't have complete idea about those 2 vehicles yet, though I am getting MS for the reason of 7 seater. Plus the macho look..

First of all a vehicle will be reliable if you really take care of it. PMS wise siguro hindi naman nagkakalayo a few bucks maybe but not something you should be bother of. Kung ride comfort I'd say tucson rides well compared to MS as I have test driven those two. And I guess it doesn't mean na for hauling si MS eh mas matibay na siya. Pareho naman sigurong matibay yun dalawa depende kung gagastaduhin mo or aalagaan mo. Kung magisa ka lang naman madalas sa ride and will seldom have 4 passengers. Okay na yun Tucson mas comfy ride, mas car like feel, mas maneuverable sa maliit na areas. And siguro mas matipid dahil 2.0 lang diesel nun.

Extras ng tucson over monty Tucson R 2.0 regular since sabi mo 1.4m, almost 1.6 yun premium (6speed A/T, 4wd na siya, LED side repeater) other than that wala na YATA. Ngayon ang lamang naman ni monty eh (Mas pwede sa baha, mas malaki, at may built in DVD with touchscreen navigation system, mas magandang i-modify)

Regarding sa PMS safe pa rin sa CASA kesa sa labas(void ata warranty pag sa labas PMS eh)

[Starex_Gold]

Montero Sport ka nalang sir.

Baka mag-reklamo ka pa sa maintenance cost namin.
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eVGT din ba yung sa Montero Sport? AFAIK hindi pa. Same lang sya ng VGT na naka-install sa 4D56-VGT Grand Starex ngayon kaya same HP lang sila.

[Starex_Gold]

Short input lang since I don't have complete idea about those 2 vehicles yet, though I am getting MS for the reason of 7 seater. Plus the macho look..

First of all a vehicle will be reliable if you really take care of it. PMS wise siguro hindi naman nagkakalayo a few bucks maybe but not something you should be bother of. Kung ride comfort I'd say tucson rides well compared to MS as I have test driven those two. And I guess it doesn't mean na for hauling si MS eh mas matibay na siya. Pareho naman sigurong matibay yun dalawa depende kung gagastaduhin mo or aalagaan mo. Kung magisa ka lang naman madalas sa ride and will seldom have 4 passengers. Okay na yun Tucson mas comfy ride, mas car like feel, mas maneuverable sa maliit na areas. And siguro mas matipid dahil 2.0 lang diesel nun.

Extras ng tucson over monty Tucson R 2.0 regular since sabi mo 1.4m, almost 1.6 yun premium (6speed A/T, 4wd na siya, LED side repeater) other than that wala na YATA. Ngayon ang lamang naman ni monty eh (Mas pwede sa baha, mas malaki, at may built in DVD with touchscreen navigation system, mas magandang i-modify)

Regarding sa PMS safe pa rin sa CASA kesa sa labas(void ata warranty pag sa labas PMS eh)

The GL CRDi Tucson is too bare. And the Premium variant is expensive (for others. It's 1.7M actually) but the Premium variants has tons of features.

Premium variant yung kinuha kong Tucson. For 1.7M, it's worth it. Mas marami pa features niya than Subbie Forester XT eh.

Kaso it cannot be compared to MS since magkaiba sila ng category.

- We have owned a Monty GLS 4X4 M/T. Kaso binenta na last month. Satisfied din with the Monty's performance, after all.

[Ry_Tower]

Yan pala ang changes/updates sa 2011 VGT na Montero Sport..

-- excellent post/s!!!!

[mda]

Still no immobilizer for the 2011 MS?

Will help make or break our purchase decision =/

[nocturnalwasabi]

*Expatio, sir some clarification lamang po, Are you telling us that Mitsubishi will use the pure mechanical type VGT to this 4d56 engine? As far as I know, with the introduction of ECU boards to all cars today, actuation to vary the moving vanes (DC motor actuated) can be done by a wire from the ECU. This maybe the same principle use by the Santa Fe, however they termed it "eVGT" as part of the Hyundai trademark. Sir, again, this is just my 2 cents.

Confirm ko lang sir. Montero uses a mechanical-type VGT. It is a vacuum actuator operated by a solenoid which is controlled by the ECU. I have the complete spec for the 2011 MS but i think it would be unreadable if i upload it through Photobucket. ang liliit kasi ng fonts yung ginamit dun sa spec sheets.

[rmsoriano]

Confirm ko lang sir. Montero uses a mechanical-type VGT. It is a vacuum actuator operated by a solenoid which is controlled by the ECU. I have the complete spec for the 2011 MS but i think it would be unreadable if i upload it through Photobucket. ang liliit kasi ng fonts yung ginamit dun sa spec sheets.

so, although it is a mechanical type of VGT, the solenoid valve which control the position of the vanes is still wired thru the ECU. And you have several inputs wired to the ECU which dictates the operation of the VGT. ECU is a microcomputer based controller. This is a basic loop conttroller with several inputs and one feedback output. Maybe this is also similar to the VGT controllers being used by some other car manufacturers. Thank you anyway sir nocturnalwasabi.

[boldventure]

Still no immobilizer for the 2011 MS?

Will help make or break our purchase decision =/

Immobilizer is a standard feature for 2010 so malamang same lang sa 2011

[mda]

Immobilizer is a standard feature for 2010 so malamang same lang sa 2011

Standard na sa 2010s ito?

AFAIK kasi, these weren't present in the early release of the MS eh.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks

[Daison77]

Appreciate the inputs and suggestions Sir normyline22 and Sir SG. Ang hirap lang kasi sa Tucson, wala silang pang test drive, Ive been to three different dealers nung Dec. wala silang unit for Test driving na tucson puro Sold out hehehhehe, Sta. Fe lang and pwede. Sa monty naman walang problema sa test driving, pa schedule ka lang . Hope i could TD those 2 para ma feel ko diff nila. Anyways, will keep you posted and will continue to read your post on this thread.

[Expatio]

*Expatio, sir some clarification lamang po, Are you telling us that Mitsubishi will use the pure mechanical type VGT to this 4d56 engine? As far as I know, with the introduction of ECU boards to all cars today, actuation to vary the moving vanes (DC motor actuated) can be done by a wire from the ECU. This maybe the same principle use by the Santa Fe, however they termed it "eVGT" as part of the Hyundai trademark. Sir, again, this is just my 2 cents.

I do not know why you say pure mechanical, as it is not pure mechanical. The actuator is mechanical, but as the posts before me point out there is electrical/electronic/vacumn included.

The Hyundai uses a servo motor (like the ones that control steering on a remote control car (in principal)) from the ECU direct.

I cannot see how eVGT could be trademarked to Hyundai as they neither invented VGT or eVGT. I think that prize goes to Schwitzer, who actually made and put it to use in 1990. They were probably not the inventors but they were first to apply it to a turbo engine

[Starex_Gold]

Appreciate the inputs and suggestions Sir normyline22 and Sir SG. Ang hirap lang kasi sa Tucson, wala silang pang test drive, Ive been to three different dealers nung Dec. wala silang unit for Test driving na tucson puro Sold out hehehhehe, Sta. Fe lang and pwede. Sa monty naman walang problema sa test driving, pa schedule ka lang . Hope i could TD those 2 para ma feel ko diff nila. Anyways, will keep you posted and will continue to read your post on this thread.

If you want attend ka sa incoming EB namin. Pwede ko ipa test drive yung Tucson CRDi Premium ko sa'yo

Or let me know if you want to test drive the HARI units. CRDi Premium din. Just PM me.

[Medallion]

Nice one SG!

At Expatio,

I fully understand that stability , handling, and maneuverability are not only attributable or influenced by location of center of gravity and higher ground clearance, but as you said so also by tires/tyres, suspension, tire track, and driver's style, manners, and behavior.

Center of gravity of a car or SUV in general is hard to compute as it will require application of complex equation like calculus. Unlike a span of lumber or a piece of square sheet of metal, which are longitudinally symmetrical, thus, center of gravity can be determined easily and in general at the middle/midpoint or center. I beg to disagree that the center of gravity of the MS and SF are the same. It will not require an expert or a trained eye to determine which has the better and lower center of gravity. I need not elaborate more as it is obvious. In general, the higher the ground clearance, the higher the center of gravity, thus, the higher the chances for a roll over.

To think that my post is a criticism to the MS is far from truth. When I said that "having a VGT in the 2011 MS may border already on the unsafe side", what I meant was that "in the event that owner's/driver's be tempted or tried maneuvering during high speed runs of the MS the risk of a roll-over is magnified and higher." This is because owners of the 2011 MS may be tempted even more to overspeed because of the higher HP and torque under the MS's hood. Sometimes, new-found power is hard to contain. If you may read it right, it was just a word of caution. Everything will depend upon the manners and habits of the drivers behind the wheel (as you have mentioned). I just hope and prayed that by increasing the HP and torque of the 2011 MS Mitsubishi engineers considered the general dynamics of the chassis, frame, suspension, etc. of the MS. Other's may not share the same opinion, but the mere stance alone by the MS, as well as the other SUV's in the local market having higher ground clearance already invokes higher center of gravity, thus, higher probability of a roll-over.

You need not to mention Ferrari F60 being on the unsafe side or getting into accident probably because of reckless driving or being in the wrong hands as you will only magnify the severity of the the accident just to make a point. Everybody knows that already. Even a reckless user of a bicycle or a skateboard will suffer the same fate. Nonetheless, chances of a Ferrari F60 rolling-over is very very low or almost impossible as it is basically designed to stick to the road and attack curves and chicanes easily at incredible speed. Pardon for the Ferrari thing!

I beg to disagree also that an SUV designed and built to be more-car like (actually, it is more of a CUV, but with the stance and capability of an SUV and having a car-like manners and handling) is more dangerous. The opposite, as the SUV-CUV will be more likely to be safe as it will handle better than an SUV on a ladder-frame chassis. Considering everything being equal and driver being the same, MS and SF driven to its respective limit will have different results.

Also, it doesn't necessarily mean that a car, SUV, or CUV driven to its limit may have a drunk driver or a driver without license. The thrill of speed will always be there among drivers. It is only up to us to hold ourselves and not be tempted to border above the limit and regret the result in the end.

But here in the Philippines, there are really many drunk drivers and drivers without license. Nothing special about that as those are known facts of everyday life on the road.

On the Land Rover roll-over incidents you mentioned, I rather not comment on that as there are only a handful of Land Rovers in the Philippines, thus, not applicable and not worth of enyone's time. MS and Fortuners are so manny. Good SUVs I would say.

In the end, what I posted was only a word of advice to take the required caution on the 2011 MS and even the current MS based on the factors above. It's up to you guys and gals to decide. The word "Montero" itself means "Mountain Warrior", which is self-explanatory. Just be careful when driving on-road. I have considered getting the MS, Fortuner, and CX7 before in 2010 but settled for another SUV-CUV after months of researches and testing.

For the prospective buyers, if you will care to consider, please try to check further. Personally, strange it may seem- "it is the car that will choose the owner/driver." Peace!

Warm regards.

[md_alcapone]

ask lang po ako, hindi ba bumpy ang ride ng monty? how abotu ibang suv's?

[saipeme]

1.398m GLS montero sport
vs
1.368m GlS Tucson......

dual exhaust ba ang 2011 montero sport like sa santa fe and captiva?

[normyline22]

ask lang po ako, hindi ba bumpy ang ride ng monty? how abotu ibang suv's?

Not that bumpy compared to Fortuners. If were to compare everest and monty, mas hindi bumpy yun monty. Haven't tried fort eh...

[normyline22]

1.398m GLS montero sport
vs
1.368m GlS Tucson......

dual exhaust ba ang 2011 montero sport like sa santa fe and captiva?

not dual exhaust.

[boldventure]

Standard na sa 2010s ito?

AFAIK kasi, these weren't present in the early release of the MS eh.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks

Yes for 2010, although di nakalagay sa brochure unlike yun 2009 nakalagay sa brochure so I think standard din sa 2009. My 2010 GLX has it.