2008 Mitsubishi Lancer EX GLX / GLS / MX / GT / GTA [ARCHIVED]

[aargh]

I'd appreciate if someone can post actual comparisons. I'm sure there will be differences but I dont think its enough to make sweeping statements like Japan is the best or something like that. Til then, i'll liken this discussion to someone saying that the Bigmac in Japan tastes better than the Bigmac here. Ive tasted both and they taste, look and smell the same. They're both McDonalds after all.

In addition to impulzz' statement about subic cars with thicker topcoat, as compared to a Honda, Im quite sure they'd be different as theyre different models and both undergo different processes. Now, if he can tell me that a Honda Fit made in Japan has thicker paint than the Honda Jazz, based on his experience, then that is something to consider.

You know what's funny? I know an American who swears that Japanese beef is the best, yet a lot of Japanese were ecstatic when the embargo on US beef was lifted in Japan. The grass is always greener on the other side

[mazdamazda]

what's with the japan versus thailand versus RP versus us built discussion?

this is the frikkin lancer discussion... heck, the locally sold lancer for sure will not be a CBU from Japan... most likely it might come from Malaysia or Thailand.

stay on the topic people. i'll be deleting all off-topic remarks after a few days.

[OTEP]

All plants have to meet certain standards. The difference with most Japanese plants is that they exceed standards.

The Japanese people are characteristic of being proud of what they do. Be it a top corporate executive or a street sweeper or a washroom attendant. They have a high regard for their job.

Same thing when they are building cars. Because they can potentially be the consumers of the products they make.

The 2008 Lancer is designed to be a bread and butter econobox (marketing hype nothwithstanding), I don't really care where it's made. But I would consider it a bonus if it were a CBU from Japan.

[BlueBimmer]

All plants have to meet certain standards. The difference with most Japanese plants is that they exceed standards.

The Japanese people are characteristic of being proud of what they do. Be it a top corporate executive or a street sweeper or a washroom attendant. They have a high regard for their job.

Same thing when they are building cars. Because they can potentially be the consumers of the products they make.

The 2008 Lancer is designed to be a bread and butter econobox (marketing hype nothwithstanding), I don't really care where it's made. But I would consider it a bonus if it were a CBU from Japan.

my sentiments exactly.

anyway to stay on topic, the civic will have tough competition soon with the new lancer and altis, bout time, ang yayabang ng mga taga honda e, porket la daw sinabi ibang compacts sa civic nila.

[impulzz]

addition to impulzz' statement about subic cars with thicker topcoat, as compared to a Honda, Im quite sure they'd be different as theyre different models and both undergo different processes. Now, if he can tell me that a Honda Fit made in Japan has thicker paint than the Honda Jazz, based on his experience, then that is something to consider.

well as far as my observation with oem paint of subic cars, , you can really tell they got better topcoat quality against our locally or thailand made units. with honda, wala pa naman nag dala ng fit sa subic. pero marami silang odessey nabenta, and you can seethe paint quality(basta OEM you can tell if its repainted naman) of the units, these are surplus units, and after detailing them, you will notice the difference. now compare that to a crv or civic sold locally then you'll see that paint quality is different, especially on white.

kahit toyota or nissan or mitsu, iba ang quality ng paint nila dito against units sold in japan

[Blackraven]

All plants have to meet certain standards. The difference with most Japanese plants is that they exceed standards.

The Japanese people are characteristic of being proud of what they do. Be it a top corporate executive or a street sweeper or a washroom attendant. They have a high regard for their job.

Same thing when they are building cars. Because they can potentially be the consumers of the products they make.

The 2008 Lancer is designed to be a bread and butter econobox (marketing hype nothwithstanding), I don't really care where it's made. But I would consider it a bonus if it were a CBU from Japan.

Also, one probable reason I think has to do with the neck-breaking discipline in Japan auto plants.

Ang alam ko sa Toyota Auto Body sa Fujimatsu province (near Nagoya), super strict sila sa quality. Kung may na report na defect/imperfection after the vehicle has been sold, itetetrace ito sa kung sino ang trabahador na gumawa ng mali tapos babawasan ang suweldo.

At ito yung mismong factory kung saan ginagawa ang mga Toyota Previa/Estima. It's even worse sa Tahara plant (gawaan ng Lexus at Toyota RAV4), kung malaman na may defect/imperfection tapos nalaman ng managment na ikaw ang may sala, tanggal ka na agad sa trabaho.

In short, Japan-made cars have the BEST quality of all Japan makes because they are required to do so.

Anyhow, I do hope to see the new Lancer and hopefully the Evo 10 should come out before the year ends (hopefully). It's still to be determined kung magkakaroon ng FQ versions para sa UK market (home ng Ralliart) or if Mitsu wants an even playing field for the global launch of this model.

[blitzmage_89]

the philippine CBUs and Japan CBUs are like heaven and hell in terms of quality. Yung revo nga alam mo ba stapler ang ginamit pang dikit nung carpet sa car floor? Kung true blooded Filipino ka alam mo dapat ang kaugaliang pinoy , "bahala na si batman" mentality lagi ang nasaisip. Basta d mapansin ng inspector at mabenta wala nang pakialam , kasi sa inspector naman masisisi. That's the self centered mentality. I just hope kahit man lang engine ay gawang japan ok na sa bagong lancer na e2 kaht hnd yung mismong mga drivetrain. Ever wondered why there's such a thing as Fuzion and Avanza in the Philippines and none in first world ones? It's strict prejudice and difference in quality my friend

[hungryalien]

the reason why we have fuzion and avanza is because may need/market dito for such vehicles. economy driven. not because 3rd world countries enjoy poor quality vehicles.

back to the all new lancer. i was told that they will be made in japan. the GT variant comes with 18in rims (16in front brake), adoptive hid system, climate control, paddle shifter (cvt variant) etc etc. 5 speed MT will also be offered. may option din for premium sound system with subwoofer and ipod-ready.

its a really nice car and if i have the money, i would get the GT over the new civic FD anyday.

[aargh]

the philippine CBUs and Japan CBUs are like heaven and hell in terms of quality. Yung revo nga alam mo ba stapler ang ginamit pang dikit nung carpet sa car floor? Kung true blooded Filipino ka alam mo dapat ang kaugaliang pinoy , "bahala na si batman" mentality lagi ang nasaisip. Basta d mapansin ng inspector at mabenta wala nang pakialam , kasi sa inspector naman masisisi. That's the self centered mentality. I just hope kahit man lang engine ay gawang japan ok na sa bagong lancer na e2 kaht hnd yung mismong mga drivetrain. Ever wondered why there's such a thing as Fuzion and Avanza in the Philippines and none in first world ones? It's strict prejudice and difference in quality my friend

Please do not generalize. Have you seen the Mazda3 and the Focus? Hell ba quality nun? I have seen a lot of skilled Filipino workers in Japan and the Japanese have a high regard toward their skill and dedication. Kawawa naman si Juan dela Cruz. No wonder mababa tingin ng ibang mga puti sa atin... tayo mismo mababa tingin sa sarili e.

The Avanza, Innova, etc exist because there's a demand for utility vehicles in SEAsian countries. It has nothing to do with prejudice and quality. There's a demand for it thats why its here. If there's a demand for big V8 sports cars here, Im sure we'll have it too, but there isnt. Im quite sure an Innova can outlast a BMW if ipanghaharabas mo at idadaan sa baha.

Going back to the topic, is there already an update on when its going to be released here? Things are going to be exciting again in the compact car category! I cant wait for it to be released together with the new Corolla! Now, if Nissan would only release the new Sentra here and Mazda the Mazda2....

[acidboy]

You say Japanese steel is the best in quality. Again, do you have data to back this up? Are there crash test reports of a Japan built lancer which is better than a locally built one of the same model?

Yes corruption happens everywhere and is not limited to RP. You need only to type corruption in google and you'll see that other countries have this too.

Take it as it is sir. I am not starting a flame war with you. I'm sharing information from what I know is true. If you think that I'm B.S.'ing fine. I can only say I have worked with several car parts manufacturers here to know where I speak off.

Back to topic: Is MMC bringing out the Lancer on the August motorshow?

[hungryalien]

yes they will be launching the new lancer this august. model GT and GLS if not mistaken.

and evo x coming next summer

the upcoming corolla doesnt look very exciting. parang naging conservative yun toyota bigla.. while ford will be coming up with the turbo diesel version of the focus and the new mx-5 (with electronic hard top).

[Memphis Raines]

my sentiments exactly.

anyway to stay on topic, the civic will have tough competition soon with the new lancer and altis, bout time, ang yayabang ng mga taga honda e, porket la daw sinabi ibang compacts sa civic nila.

Naku this is so true! If the choice would be between the '07 Lancer and Civic, sa lancer nako. It has rally pedigree in its lines.

[Galactus]

The new Lancer is a looker. It can match up to the Civic in the aesthetics department, (at least in my eyes, beauty is subjective after all).

With regards to Japan CBU units, let's not forget several years ago that the Japanese CEO of Mitsubishi deliberately swept under the rug reports on the lack of QA and product defects of their cars.

[devdevlin]

yes they will be launching the new lancer this august.

confirmed na ba to? or are you just pertaining to the August motorshow?

[devdevlin]

my sentiments exactly.

anyway to stay on topic, the civic will have tough competition soon with the new lancer and altis, bout time, ang yayabang ng mga taga honda e, porket la daw sinabi ibang compacts sa civic nila.

ayaw ko mag-generalize sa lahat ng SA ng honda, pero nun bumisita ako sa isa sa mga dealers nramdaman ko yun yabang nla sa civic kse kse dw car of the year. i agree that the civic is a looker and performance review i've read are raving about the car. pero for 1st time car buyers like me parang nanliit ako kse i felt that i didnt belong in the showroom with the atitude that had.

notorious pa din ba ang mitsubishi casa's sa pangangahoy ng parts? ive been hearing the same reaction sa mga kakilala ko mitsubushi owners eh. pati yun kalampag issue. these are the things thats making me shy away from the lancer.

[drey]

sir devdevlin... please dont post like your txting.

Salamat po ulit.

[aargh]

Hope they release a GSR version of this. There's no new 2-door compact car in the market right now. Sayang.

[devdevlin]

sir devdevlin... please dont post like your txting.

Salamat po ulit.

ay sorry chief, nasanay na kase ako kahit sa keyboard note taken.

[eggman]

yes they will be launching the new lancer this august. model GT and GLS if not mistaken.

and evo x coming next summer

the upcoming corolla doesnt look very exciting. parang naging conservative yun toyota bigla.. while ford will be coming up with the turbo diesel version of the focus and the new mx-5 (with electronic hard top).

Yup the new gen Lancer will be on display sa CAMPI Motorshow this August(now you know bakit nag-import sila ng Lancer GT na galing sa Japan) though sa October pa ang start ng sales nya..

[acidboy]

Will they also bring out the Colt here?