2008 Mitsubishi Lancer EX GLX / GLS / MX / GT / GTA [ARCHIVED]

[blitzmage_89]

what's good about mitsubishi ph is that they're releasing more Japan CBUs than before. Gone are the days where Pajeros are locally or thailand built. I just hope the Lancer 2008 is a Japan CBU with moderate pricing. Econoboxes are really lacking in quality nowadays and I really mean it. In Singapore , even though they're right hand drive and they're just near Thailand , they don't use thailang cbus and instead they use the Japan ones. J-CBUs seem to have lower emission rates

[Blackraven]

what's good about mitsubishi ph is that they're releasing more Japan CBUs than before. Gone are the days where Pajeros are locally or thailand built. I just hope the Lancer 2008 is a Japan CBU with moderate pricing. Econoboxes are really lacking in quality nowadays and I really mean it. In Singapore , even though they're right hand drive and they're just near Thailand , they don't use thailang cbus and instead they use the Japan ones. J-CBUs seem to have lower emission rates

Yeah, that's why if you want the best quality from JAPANESE brands, then you go get it straight from Japan.

Speaking of which, I sat in the Outlander last month. Grabe ang ganda ng quality and you can really feel that doors and fixtures are well-placed. It's more solid than the Thailand-made Grandis sold here. Quality-wise, iba talaga.

So, I hope to see the Japan-made Lancer sa Motorshow this August (sa WTC)

[drey]

OT: I think Japan CBU ang Grandis.

[eggman]

OT: I think Japan CBU ang Grandis.

Galing sa Thailand ang Grandis.Yung new gen Lancer ng Malaysia ay similar din sa Philippine version(2 liter GLS at GT ang darating muna daw...) standard ang 18 inch rims sa bawat variants tutal CBU naman to galing Japan..

Baka magpakita ang new gen Lancer sa CAMPI Motorshow sa August(yung 2 liter GT ang on display)...Teaser muna bago nila ilabas sa October or December 2007.

[AG4]

Galing sa Thailand ang Grandis.Yung new gen Lancer ng Malaysia ay similar din sa Philippine version(2 liter GLS at GT ang darating muna daw...) standard ang 18 inch rims sa bawat variants tutal CBU naman to galing Japan..

In Malaysia the 2.0 GLS will have 16 inch wheels, while the 2.0 GT will have 18 inch wheels and a full bodykit and trunk spoiler (probably looks like the USDM Lancer GTS).

2.0 GLS is approx RM 112K
2.0 GT is approx RM 120K

For comparison:
Honda Civic 1.8S RM 113,800
Honda Civic 2.0S RM 124,800

[aargh]

what's good about mitsubishi ph is that they're releasing more Japan CBUs than before. Gone are the days where Pajeros are locally or thailand built. I just hope the Lancer 2008 is a Japan CBU with moderate pricing. Econoboxes are really lacking in quality nowadays and I really mean it. In Singapore , even though they're right hand drive and they're just near Thailand , they don't use thailang cbus and instead they use the Japan ones. J-CBUs seem to have lower emission rates

Whats wrong with Thailand or locally made cars? I would like to think they're of the same quality as I dont think Mitsubishi/Toyota/Honda/Nissan's quality control would let a subpar product roll off their factory. Besides, their processes and qc are already standardized. Whether its in Japan or Timbuktu, its still carrying the same brand. I guess its more of a perception na mas maganda pag made in Japan. I would actually prefer a locally made vehicle as it helps our economy more than imported ones.

Econoboxes lacking in quality? Hindi ba medyo redundant yun? Kaya nga econobox e. I definitely would choose a Vios now over a Corolla 2 decades ago. The features and technology are a big improvement. Compare the Picanto and the Pride, they're both Kia entrylevel econoboxes, which one has better quality?

"J-CBUs seem to have lower emission rates" - again, its a perception thing, thus the word 'seem'. Unless you have data for this?

[RafRaf]

The current lancer dropped prices!!! GLX 1.6 CVT is a P695K deal... compare that to a Jazz 1.3 CVT.

[Asus700]

Whats wrong with Thailand or locally made cars? I would like to think they're of the same quality as I dont think Mitsubishi/Toyota/Honda/Nissan's quality control would let a subpar product roll off their factory. Besides, their processes and qc are already standardized. Whether its in Japan or Timbuktu, its still carrying the same brand. I guess its more of a perception na mas maganda pag made in Japan. I would actually prefer a locally made vehicle as it helps our economy more than imported ones.

Econoboxes lacking in quality? Hindi ba medyo redundant yun? Kaya nga econobox e. I definitely would choose a Vios now over a Corolla 2 decades ago. The features and technology are a big improvement. Compare the Picanto and the Pride, they're both Kia entrylevel econoboxes, which one has better quality?

"J-CBUs seem to have lower emission rates" - again, its a perception thing, thus the word 'seem'. Unless you have data for this?

the difference are the people... the japanese are conscientious workers

[aargh]

the difference are the people... the japanese are conscientious workers

Are you Filipino? If you are, are you actually conceding na mas maayos magtrabaho mga Hapon kesa sayo? Mas conscientious ba magtrabaho sila kesa sayo? You are generalizing na. And its based on perception. Have you actually compared the quality between a Japanmade Lancer and a local one? Besides, I have had no problems with our non-Japan made vehicles and I dont think Mitsubishi, Toyota, etc will be putting up factories here if they think that Pinoy workers are sub-standard. They undergo the same training as the Japanese workers.

[Flagg]

Noong buhay pa siya, my 1993 Japan-CBU Lancer GLXi can outrun any 1995 CKD Lancer GLXi... repairs were also much less frequent than 3 other friends of mine with '95s. We also have a suspension-challenged '97 Galant VR... ang layo niya from my friend's early '94...

The fact simply is that Mitsu has a truly terrible, very unconscientious labor union here.

The factories here were put up due to the tariff regime existing at that time...

[BlueBimmer]

glad the outlander is cbu japan

[boybi]

Just look at the Chevy Venture being sold here that was manufactured in China. It sufferes terrible quality control issues compared with the Venture that is being sold and manufactured in the US.

[aargh]

I was in Japan last year and was able to ride in quite a number of cars. I even went to the Toyota Megaweb in Odaiba(?) wherein they feature all their products. Aside from being right hand drive, I didnt notice any difference in the quality. Of course, their roads are better so the ride comfort is better. But the fit and trim are similar.

I also went to the Toyota Sta Rosa plant where I got to see their manufacturing processes. It really impressed me that we have come a long way. I saw how they built the innova, altis and camry (old model), their quality is up there. I would like to think that the quality now is better and more standardized compared to a decade ago. Just look at Mazda/Ford now. Who would've thought that the Focus and Mazda3 are built here? At least for new cars, I think quality would be similar regardless of where its built as they implement the same quality control and procedures. Of course the Chinese branded cars are a different matter.

As for the Lancer, wouldn't the srp be cheaper if it were built here than imported?

[JoeJazz]

I was in Japan last year and was able to ride in quite a number of cars. I even went to the Toyota Megaweb in Odaiba(?) wherein they feature all their products. Aside from being right hand drive, I didnt notice any difference in the quality. Of course, their roads are better so the ride comfort is better. But the fit and trim are similar.

I also went to the Toyota Sta Rosa plant where I got to see their manufacturing processes. It really impressed me that we have come a long way. I saw how they built the innova, altis and camry (old model), their quality is up there. I would like to think that the quality now is better and more standardized compared to a decade ago. Just look at Mazda/Ford now. Who would've thought that the Focus and Mazda3 are built here? At least for new cars, I think quality would be similar regardless of where its built as they implement the same quality control and procedures. Of course the Chinese branded cars are a different matter.

Totally agree. For mature assembly plants (and I assume they all undergo some form of certification), quality should be very very similar, if not identical. And parang demoralizing naman if we all assume that cars assembled here are below par. It would be interesting to see if there are studies out there that confirm differences in quality depending on the geographic location.

[oldblue]

sa japan, korea, germany mas ok ang worker kasi malamig dun

sa philippines, thailand mainit eh

sa US masyado sila maluwag sa quality time with family kaya nag-suffer yun production

[acidboy]

Are you Filipino? If you are, are you actually conceding na mas maayos magtrabaho mga Hapon kesa sayo? Mas conscientious ba magtrabaho sila kesa sayo? You are generalizing na. And its based on perception. Have you actually compared the quality between a Japanmade Lancer and a local one? Besides, I have had no problems with our non-Japan made vehicles and I dont think Mitsubishi, Toyota, etc will be putting up factories here if they think that Pinoy workers are sub-standard. They undergo the same training as the Japanese workers.

Hate to break it to you. Yes it is true. And the people who say this are the people in the auto manufacturing sector.

Oh and besides that, problems with local vs. Japanese? How about corruption in the purchasing department? And so instead of getting the best quality, suppliers with compromised and cheaper parts are passing through Q.C. I'm not saying all car manufacturers are like this, but I have known this practice is prevalent in some brands. And also the materials. From the plastic, to glass, to the sheet metal, to the alloys, and aluminum, etc. used in cars, all of them are standard, and believe you me these are seriously compromised here as understandably some materials are really not available in the local market.

[aargh]

Hate to break it to you. Yes it is true. And the people who say this are the people in the auto manufacturing sector.

Oh and besides that, problems with local vs. Japanese? How about corruption in the purchasing department? And so instead of getting the best quality, suppliers with compromised and cheaper parts are passing through Q.C. I'm not saying all car manufacturers are like this, but I have known this practice is prevalent in some brands. And also the materials. From the plastic, to glass, to the sheet metal, to the alloys, and aluminum, etc. used in cars, all of them are standard, and believe you me these are seriously compromised here as understandably some materials are really not available in the local market.

Can u cite a proper example or is this something like "i heard from someone who heard from someone?" Besides, if the plastic, alloys, aluminum are standard, how are they compromised here? U mean to say that factories here use substandard materials? The Upper level management of Japanese manufacturers here are mostly Japanese. Are you saying they allow that thing to happen? Corruption? That's prevalent everywhere.

With regard to the climate of the place, one could argue that the temp in germany, korea and japan could be too cold naman thus affecting the workers too. Toyota plant in Sta Rosa I visited was properly ventilated, clean and cool.

Unless someone could produce a proper comparo between, lets say a 2007 Mazda3 made in Japan vs. 2007 mazda3 made here, everything will just be based on pre-conceived notions.

[impulzz]

but japan built units' paint quality is really far ahead from thailand or locally assembled units. just look and subic units, we have detailed quite a few and makapal ang top coat nila, yung dito gawa , halos wala ng top coat, lalao na honda sobrang nipis na. parang one coating na lang ginagawa.

[acidboy]

Can u cite a proper example or is this something like "i heard from someone who heard from someone?" Besides, if the plastic, alloys, aluminum are standard, how are they compromised here? U mean to say that factories here use substandard materials? The Upper level management of Japanese manufacturers here are mostly Japanese. Are you saying they allow that thing to happen? Corruption? That's prevalent everywhere.

I did not say I heard from someone who heard from someone.

Okay just to cite an example:

Sheet metal: Until lately before Global Steel produced sheet metal, the country was sourcing sheet metal from mostly China and the former Soviet bloc countries. And what we get, from the sheer low volume our country orders compared to other countries, are the tail ends of productions or worse, mill surplus. Except for certificates that are easily doctored to verify the quality of these sheet metals, there is no other way to know what these materials' standards are. Of course there are testing facilities here, but please. Japan, on the other hand, source their consumption locally- and Japanese steel is one of the best in quality. Doon pa lang between Japanese steel and Chinese steel talo na eh.

Corruption? Prevalent everywhere? You just have to look up what happened with Mitsubishi a few years back.

[aargh]

I did not say I heard from someone who heard from someone.

Okay just to cite an example:

Sheet metal: Until lately before Global Steel produced sheet metal, the country was sourcing sheet metal from mostly China and the former Soviet bloc countries. And what we get, from the sheer low volume our country orders compared to other countries, are the tail ends of productions or worse, mill surplus. Except for certificates that are easily doctored to verify the quality of these sheet metals, there is no other way to know what these materials' standards are. Of course there are testing facilities here, but please. Japan, on the other hand, source their consumption locally- and Japanese steel is one of the best in quality. Doon pa lang between Japanese steel and Chinese steel talo na eh.

Corruption? Prevalent everywhere? You just have to look up what happened with Mitsubishi a few years back.

You say Japanese steel is the best in quality. Again, do you have data to back this up? Are there crash test reports of a Japan built lancer which is better than a locally built one of the same model?

Yes corruption happens everywhere and is not limited to RP. You need only to type corruption in google and you'll see that other countries have this too.

To impulzz: What particular car ang manipis ang pintura? Are these cars relatively new or old models? Ive heard complaints about thin paint in American car forums on both American and Japanese cars so this is not really an isolated case here. Paint processes here and in Japan are the same for the big car manufacturers.