2014 Mazda 3

[new_2_cars]

*Jirbow
Same tayo ng damage sir. Dent lang din and scratches. The funny thing is, my previous accident was far worse. 3 panels and it took only 1 and a half weeks to finish. Ngayong isang panel lang, 1 month.. Wow. But in fairness, yung previous job nila is ALMOST flawless.

*Walter
I hope you're wrong sir,.. Please be wrong. Yan narin yung pumapasok sa isip ko these past few weeks. Baka pag dating sakin nung car, somehow it would'nt feel/drive the same. I cant just visit the car anytime I please but this time, I will.

[gongrhey]

*gongrhey

Yes. I called them up several times bago ko ipasok yung car kung complete na ba ang mga parts, in which they said yes. The "reason/s" for the delay is marami daw nakapila for repairs. Nasa workshop daw nila yung car and repairs are "being" made. I've been calling them for a month now para ma update manlang ako kung ano na ang status ng sasakyan. Kung hinde kasi ako tatawag, para akong naghihintay sa wala.

Im starting to get an idea why people here are advising to steer clear from Mazda Pasig or any ANC dealers.

visit mo na lang bro for your peace of mind as suggested. iba kasi pag nakakausap mo in person. i have the gen 1 mazda 3, sa greenhills ako nagpapa-pms dati.

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[Neutron]

*Jirbow
Same tayo ng damage sir. Dent lang din and scratches. The funny thing is, my previous accident was far worse. 3 panels and it took only 1 and a half weeks to finish. Ngayong isang panel lang, 1 month.. Wow. But in fairness, yung previous job nila is ALMOST flawless.

*Walter
I hope you're wrong sir,.. Please be wrong. Yan narin yung pumapasok sa isip ko these past few weeks. Baka pag dating sakin nung car, somehow it would'nt feel/drive the same. I cant just visit the car anytime I please but this time, I will.

Yeah visit it. Our last interaction with Mazda Pasig was for body repairwork - not only where there delays where we had to escalate (ang tagal na nakatenga yung kotse)...pinabalik ulit sa workshop kasi hindi pantay pagkapaint (even the chrome trims and some windows of the car had "buffing" scratches!!!) Imagine that they had to repaint the whole car 🙄 and replaced the damaged chrome trims to fix it 🙄

[new_2_cars]

*gongrhey, Neutron

I made several calls and found out that you can't just visit the workshop na hinde kasama yung SA ng branch, sa kung saan mo pinasok yung oto. At least yan yung sabi sakin ni Mazda Quezon Ave. I was led to believe nung nag c-canvas palang kami na hinde in-allow ng Mazda na matenggahan sila ng sasakyan sa service. Boy was I wrong. Im just hoping that we wouldn't end up the same way like that Toyota incident sa news. At least sya may dashcam to prove his claims.

[kumagpoko]

Guys need help. San dito ung ACC at continues 12V supply? Thanks





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[vinrem]

Bit of advise, don't gas up higher than the recommended fuel, my friends used 95 octane to his Mazda 3 since he both it last year, the result? He spent around 60k to fix his engine.

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[travajante]

Bit of advise, don't gas up higher than the recommended fuel, my friends used 95 octane to his Mazda 3 since he both it last year, the result? He spent around 60k to fix his engine.

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How did he use it? What else did he do? What went wrong? Share us the history.
Many are on higher octane, not just locally w/o engine wear nor health issues. Going higher octane on our stock Sky won't extract anyone any benefits....but one can reap those rewards thru a good tune.

[bugsmobile]

Bit of advise, don't gas up higher than the recommended fuel, my friends used 95 octane to his Mazda 3 since he both it last year, the result? He spent around 60k to fix his engine.

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I remember when I got my unit, my SA reminded me not to gas up with higher octane gas.

[vinrem]

How did he use it? What else did he do? What went wrong? Share us the history.
Many are on higher octane, not just locally w/o engine wear nor health issues. Going higher octane on our stock Sky won't extract anyone any benefits....but one can reap those rewards thru a good tune.

He said he just used the car in the city, from house to office, he has other car for those out of town trips, mazda said it was due to that he's using a higher octane fuel, I can't remember what what parts Mazda replaced but I think they opened up the engine. J

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[travajante]

He said he just used the car in the city, from house to office, he has other car for those out of town trips, mazda said it was due to that he's using a higher octane fuel, I can't remember what what parts Mazda replaced but I think they opened up the engine. J

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More info will be appreciated. Does he gas up randomly w/ different brands/stations? The failure type, repair details will show cause. The octane alibi alone doesn't sound logical.

[vinrem]

More info will be appreciated. Does he gas up randomly w/ different brands/stations? The failure type, repair details will show cause. The octane alibi alone doesn't sound logical.

Sorry sir, I don't have additional info regarding the matter, he's in the Philippines and I'm in China, he just visited me last month and he remembered that we have the same car, we'll not the exactly the same coz he has a 2.0 and mine is only 1.5, he told me not to use higher octane fuel bcoz he mentioned some parts melted when mazda fixed it.

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[travajante]

I remember when I got my unit, my SA reminded me not to gas up with higher octane gas.

Prior to Skyactiv introduction here some years back, Mazda collected local petrol samples & sent em to jp for tests. Not all gave good results, hence the suggested preference. These engines are an engineering oddity.....Normally, hi-compression is achieved by forced induction...turbo or supercharging....these can't be paired w/ regular fuel coz they will knock/ping....Not w/ Sky. These naturally aspirated hi comp ones can run on regular & are tuned in a way that higher octane fuels won't give you any better.
So, why go pricier petrol w/o any difference? That's the Skyactiv advantage. Naturally aspirated, hi comp, no need of premium petrol, efficient w/o the CVT cheat.....I"m not sure where along the way this got lost....how 'no need to' became 'must not' use higher octane'

[Neutron]

Bit of advise, don't gas up higher than the recommended fuel, my friends used 95 octane to his Mazda 3 since he both it last year, the result? He spent around 60k to fix his engine.

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Yes - this is true. Learnings from our 2.5L Skyactiv Mazda6. We were using higher octane gas (higher than recommended 91 RON) when it was new. A few months later it started displaying the check engine light. Had it checked and temporarily reset - yet the check engine light returned. Recommendation of the dealer is to decarbonize the engine and use only the recommended RON rating gasoline. - So we did...and even after a few years later, the issue never repeated itself.

[Neutron]

*gongrhey, Neutron

I made several calls and found out that you can't just visit the workshop na hinde kasama yung SA ng branch, sa kung saan mo pinasok yung oto. At least yan yung sabi sakin ni Mazda Quezon Ave. I was led to believe nung nag c-canvas palang kami na hinde in-allow ng Mazda na matenggahan sila ng sasakyan sa service. Boy was I wrong. Im just hoping that we wouldn't end up the same way like that Toyota incident sa news. At least sya may dashcam to prove his claims.

Unfortunately the only solution that I can advise is to get a hold of the main body shop supervisor of the dealer and escalate :/

[travajante]

Yes - this is true. Learnings from our 2.5L Skyactiv Mazda6. We were using higher octane gas (higher than recommended 91 RON) when it was new. A few months later it started displaying the check engine light. Had it checked and temporarily reset - yet the check engine light returned. Recommendation of the dealer is to decarbonize the engine and use only the recommended RON rating gasoline. - So we did...and even after a few years later, the issue never repeated itself.

Decoke after how many kms, sir? What brand & octane fuel used before & after? Thanks

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[RedlineJunkie]

I think Mazda should further explain why we should use only 91RON or regular fuel. And why Shell FuelSave is the recommended brand. Especially now that more Skyactiv engines are being damaged because of using 95RON and above fuel.
By the way, since our engine are Gasoline Direct Injection, have any of guys checked for carbon build-up? Those who have 30-40k km on their odo, how's your engine now?

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[travajante]

I think Mazda should further explain why we should use only 91RON or regular fuel. And why Shell FuelSave is the recommended brand. Especially now that more Skyactiv engines are being damaged because of using 95RON and above fuel.
By the way, since our engine are Gasoline Direct Injection, have any of guys checked for carbon build-up? Those who have 30-40k km on their odo, how's your engine now?

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Do we have actual data on the population of skyactivs affected by premium fuel? This might be more about fuel quality than octane. Skeptics may have their commercial theories on the Shell endorsement.....let's give Mazda the benefit here. They might have found Shell's quality control more consistent than others. We know fuel is additive & detergent filled....some to boost octane. Not all are ideal.
I'm there on the odo....FC & performance has never been better. I've stuck w/ Shell from day1...gone from regular to premium. No knock on whatever I filled.
Got a good circle of Skyactiv owners w/ more than double those numbers clocked w/ no issues. Fuel quality (Mazda's initial concern) the past coupla years must've improved significantly. You see euro 4 & 5 claims now.
Carbon build-up is the known achilles heel of DI engines. Mazda knew & has dug into pushing back the onset....here's what they did....

"To eliminate the problem of intake valve deposits that plague current direct gasoline injection engines, the engineers at Mazda determined that deposits are formed when intake valve temperatures fall below 400 degrees C. Measures were taken so that the intake valve would operate above this point to reduce deposit formation. Mazda determined that this was largely due to the intake valve being too cool. A lot of analysis went into designing the heat paths away from the valves to keep them at the proper temperature to avoid deposit formation."

Fully explained here.
13:1 Compression and 4 mpg on 87 Octane fuel? Introducing Mazda’s Skyactiv Technology

Note that US uses AKI not RON....Their 87 is about our 91RON.

[Walter]

Bit of advise, don't gas up higher than the recommended fuel, my friends used 95 octane to his Mazda 3 since he both it last year, the result? He spent around 60k to fix his engine.

Mazda 3 is capable of handling 95 octane or higher ... something else caused his engine problems ...

[vinrem]

Mazda 3 is capable of handling 95 octane or higher ... something else caused his engine problems ...

Its hard to tell what really cause his engine troubles, if it's really the fuel or others factors, but better safe than sorry.

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[travajante]

Its hard to tell what really cause his engine troubles, if it's really the fuel or others factors, but better safe than sorry.

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It would really help to know exact symptoms, faults, repair details & some history. These will point cause & guide everyone properly.