The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

**leolop** · August 21st, 2005 11:36 AM

grrrrrr. no, walang mga sticker windshield.

**leolop** · August 21st, 2005 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Lensio

Leplop, sad to say you got the first batch of carnival ii. Yes you're correct also that the production date you stated was correct. TCI model was obsete in Korea in 2002 but they still produced it for export only. Yong 2002 model onwards, and tail light niya ay naiba ng konti, the reverse & signal light were located sa gitna.

salamat sa info mo, dahil dyan nadiskubre ang katotohanan.

actually, the situation is not as bad as it seems. i bought the unit for P420k, turns out to be 4yrs old and 41k mileage. but factor in the huge risk i took in getting a unit that had not been used for 10 months and which they would not allow a test drive, and there's the rub. hope i can get an equitable solution from the bank. clue na yon which bank, hehe. napareview tuloy ako ng libro ko sa law on sales.

**altec** · August 21st, 2005 12:04 PM

yari ang bangko, kasi they said in their contract its a 2003 model. Even if the lto papers was blank on its year model, the contract is deemed defective because of misdeclaration. When push comes to shove, they cant claim the as is where is clause because it only applies to the condition of the vehicle, not with its registration. The picture of the LTO says it all, that it's not a 2003 model. For example, bumili ang company namin ng 5 units Kia sportage. As per verification, its a 1994-95 model as per the importer, and the seatbelt tag. But since it was just freshly brought into the Philippines, and this year siya 1st registration sa atin, then it was declared as a 2005 model.

Another way of checking is the date stated on the certificate of registration, or the CR. The CR's date reflects the 1st time the vehicle was registered with one owner. The only time the CR date is changed is when there is a change of ownership, or change of specifications, or CR loss requiring replacement. Every year, when you renew your registration, the OR is new, the CR is not touched.

Yung dashboard picture mo shows it is the gen2 or equivalent to the local sedona. Any changes would be nominal, meaning more of accessories ang differences lang.

Whatever it is, you know you got a good deal because just like that, meron na offer price at plus 20K. That even means the +20K is not the fair market value. Think of it. Normally, people would make tawad DOWNWARDS. E yung sa iyo, UPWARDS pa. And personally, dapat lang di yan ang fair market value!! Kawawa naman kami, ang laki ng depreciation loss!! hehe.

**mikey177** · August 21st, 2005 12:10 PM

leolop,

I hope you get an equitable settlement or discount from that bank. As for me, I closed my deposit accounts with them when I transferred to the province.

Sabi na nga ba mataas yung 41,000-km mileage para sa 2003 model na sasakyan.

Lensio,

Thanks for all the info.

**diesoline** · August 21st, 2005 12:26 PM

nawala lang ako ng dalawang araw nakatatlong page na kayo dyan! still here in baliuag, bulacan at my favorite netopia place. iniisip ko nga i will go to arayat, pampanga after lunch to search for the legendary cabigting halo-halo! anyways, ot na so back to the thread tayo...

regarding the injector problems altec has encountered lately, i feel it is most likely due to water that has infiltrated his fuel system. water is the most common contaminant in our diesel and especially in our tropical humid climes, it occurs naturally. here are some links, guys...
Diesel Fuel Contamination and Fuel Filter Plugging
FUEL PROBLEMS
this page is where the above links came from: http://www.aidworkers.net/logistics/vehicle/fuel.html

this is the most telling quote from the link:

from Diesel Fuel Contamination and Fuel Filter Plugging
Water -- is the greatest concern because it is the most common form of contaminant. Water may be
introduced into the fuel supply during fueling when warm, moisture laden air condenses on the cold
metal walls of fuel storage tanks or from poor housekeeping practices. The effects of water in diesel
fuel can be serious. Water can cause a tip to blow off an injector, or reduce the lubricity of the fuel
which can cause seizure of close tolerance assemblies such as plungers.

i posted on this thread (Phil. Diesel -> not CRDi ready?) here in tsikot.com regarding the water issue but medyo nadedma.

altec, it was on this thread that doc diesel introduced racor to me.

**altec** · August 21st, 2005 05:58 PM

ok yan mr funnel ah! Can you give me the contact details ng friend mo dito sa cebu?

**Lensio** · August 21st, 2005 10:51 PM

leolop (sorry sa typo ng id mo), isa pa pala, yong model mo ata ay hindi official export model kasi "Carnival II" ang emblem niya. So I come to think na "gray market" siya galing. So basically original owner niyan ay koreano. Could locate the VIN # of your ride para masabi ko saiyo complete information niya.(i.e, model, accessories, etc)