2012 Kia Rio

[denpacs]

Just an update, Kia will release a M/T for the Rio HB next year..
Read it here: https://wot.motortrend.com/2013-kia-...on-258993.html

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Nakaka-walang gana i-compute yung fc ko considering ang ave speed ko based sa MID per trip to/from work ay naglalaro sa 6-10kph. Hehehe.

Papakargahan ko to ng Shell Nitro next time tapos from then on, ilalagay ko sa spreadsheet yung stats per trip: Distance travelled, ave speed, fc based on display at kung ano pang pwede. Hehe.

ano FC na nakuha mo? gaano kalayo at oras?

[valacirca]

Since nagpakarga ako last time hindi ko pa narereset yung mga settings sa MID eh.

18.1L/100km currently yung reading dun, tapos I think approx 100km yung "trip" and approx. 50% nalang yung fuel gauge.

More or less sabihin na nating 5km/h yung fuel consumption on 8kph ave.

ie-Excel ko na to para magka-alaman na! lol.

BTW: Funny story, kahapon nagulat nalang kami ni misis ko, pagsakay namin sa kotse ayaw magstart ng makina. Akala namin kung ano nang nangyari sa kotse, yun pala nag-engine lock siya. Buti nalang andun yung manual para sabihin kung anong gagawin in that situation. Akala namin initially nasira agad yung makina, haha.

[mikmik316]

Forgot to tell everyone that I had the test drive session with CAC last Saturday.
After doing 4 trips, with controlled eco driving until 2k rpm, i got average consumption for the following:

7.09km/l (heavy traffic)
7.57km/l (moderate traffic)
8.09km/l (normal traffic)
13.89km/l (combined traffic, mostly highway)

Bottomline, bawal lumagpas ng 2k rpm if we want to get the best FC. Only problem with that requirement, bawal na ang "sporty" at "aggressive" driving. Dahil maliit lang makina, parang pagong to accelerate without crossing the 2k rpm.

Applying some principles above, here is my latest FC:

15 liters Petron Blaze 100
Odo: around 1,800++ km.
Eastwood-Makati-Intramuros-Makati-Eastwood, rush hour traffic
Reading: 105.4km
FC: 7.03 km/liter

I asked the CAC representative to inform me ASAP if there are ECU updates for the Rio so that I can further improve my FC.

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Forgot to tell everyone that I had the test drive session with CAC last Saturday.
After doing 4 trips, with controlled eco driving until 2k rpm, i got average consumption for the following:

7.09km/l (heavy traffic)
7.57km/l (moderate traffic)
8.09km/l (normal traffic)
13.89km/l (combined traffic, mostly highway)

Bottomline, bawal lumagpas ng 2k rpm if we want to get the best FC. Only problem with that requirement, bawal na ang "sporty" at "aggressive" driving. Dahil maliit lang makina, parang pagong to accelerate without crossing the 2k rpm.

Applying some principles above, here is my latest FC:

15 liters Petron Blaze 100
Odo: around 1,800++ km.
Eastwood-Makati-Intramuros-Makati-Eastwood, rush hour traffic
Reading: 105.4km
FC: 7.03 km/liter

I asked the CAC representative to inform me ASAP if there are ECU updates for the Rio so that I can further improve my FC.

Yan din sabi sa akin nun nag test, hanggang 2k lang daw ang rpm tas 70 kph ang max speed dapat.

Pero ako sinubukan ko 2.5k ang rpm, not bad parin fc nakukuha ko.

Tanong ko lang, napansin mo bang parang mas tipid ang blaze? Lalo na sa heavy traffic.

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[rio5]

Forgot to tell everyone that I had the test drive session with CAC last Saturday.
After doing 4 trips, with controlled eco driving until 2k rpm, i got average consumption for the following:

7.09km/l (heavy traffic)
7.57km/l (moderate traffic)
8.09km/l (normal traffic)
13.89km/l (combined traffic, mostly highway)

Bottomline, bawal lumagpas ng 2k rpm if we want to get the best FC. Only problem with that requirement, bawal na ang "sporty" at "aggressive" driving. Dahil maliit lang makina, parang pagong to accelerate without crossing the 2k rpm.


I asked the CAC representative to inform me ASAP if there are ECU updates for the Rio so that I can further improve my FC.

as i have said sa thread dito na isa sa culprit ng bad FC is the GEAR RATIO,tagal mag palit ng 1st to 2nd gear and so on,yun sa toyota revo hindi lalampas ng 1800rpm magpalit na,kaya ilalaban ko revo ko sa fuel efficiency ng rio5,ito nga everyday service ko ngayon,kainis kaya ka kumuha ng econo car para mai garahe mo muna toyota revo,baliktad nangyari. kaya dapat kulitin mga CAC people na madaliin pag correct ng rio5 nila,kung hindi, tayo na ang una at huli na meron nito dahil sa poor FC. ang daming lalabas na bago next year.kaya mga ka rio5 look at the bright side konti lang tayo meron nito dito pinas hehehehehehe

[timrev]

kaya pala konti lang talaga nakikita ko rio5 exotic car na xa

hay...sayang talaga Bad FC leads to bad sales

[valacirca]

Guys, di ko pa mahanap sa kapal ng manual kung anong nagca-cause ng "engine lock" sa Kia Rio... so baka matulungan niyo ako?

Kasi twice na nangyari na di ko mastart yung engine because of this. Naaayos ko naman by pressing certains buttons dun sa transponder in a certain order... pero I'm unsure of what's causing it.

My suspicion is that maybe I'm taking too long to start the engine from the time the alarm is disarmed?

Can anyone opine regarding this?

[valacirca]

I have scanned the manual of my new rio page 1-2 and contains topic on fuel requirements.

For Europe: For optimal vehicle performance, we recommend you the use of unleaded gasoline which complies with EN 228 and has an octane rating of RON (Research Octane Number)95 / AKI (Anti Knock Index) 91 or higher. You may use unleaded gasoline with RON 91-94 / AKI 87-90 but it may result in slight performance reduction of the vehicle.

Except Europe: Your vehicle is designed to use only unleaded fuel having an octane rating of RON 91 / AKI 87 or higher.

Does anyone know why the requirement is different for Europe and for outside Europe?

Kasi previously pinaguusapan natin na RON 95 and minimum recommended for the Rio, right? Pero sa manual RON 91 actually ang nakalagay.

Would anyone know kung ano ba talaga for Rio owners here in the Philippines? RON 95 ba o RON 91?

[valacirca]

FYI, shell nitro is only 93 RON. if you want to use shell go for the vpower which is 97 RON but definitely more expensive.

Sir, tatlo ang fuel ng Shell diba?

Fuel Save
V-Power Nitro+
V-Power Nitro+ Racing

Yung RON 97 ba is the "V-Power Nitro+"? Kasi maliit lang yung difference nito in price with the Fuel Save. Less than a peso per liter.

The big difference in price is between the V-Power Nitro+ and V-Power Nitro+ Racing. Parang 2.00 pesos per liter ang difference. Would you know what the octane rating of the Racing variant is, and why it's much more expensive?

I was just curious so sana may makapag-confirm nito

In any case, I'll probably try loading up with Petron XCS on my next full tank. I pass by one Petron station on the way to work and one Petron station on the way home, so between those two Petron stations, I imagine I can regularly use XCS considering around three times in a month lang naman siguro ako magpapakarga.

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Sir, tatlo ang fuel ng Shell diba?

Fuel Save
V-Power Nitro+
V-Power Nitro+ Racing

Yung RON 97 ba is the "V-Power Nitro+"? Kasi maliit lang yung difference nito in price with the Fuel Save. Less than a peso per liter.

The big difference in price is between the V-Power Nitro+ and V-Power Nitro+ Racing. Parang 2.00 pesos per liter ang difference. Would you know what the octane rating of the Racing variant is, and why it's much more expensive?

I was just curious so sana may makapag-confirm nito

In any case, I'll probably try loading up with Petron XCS on my next full tank. I pass by one Petron station on the way to work and one Petron station on the way home, so between those two Petron stations, I imagine I can regularly use XCS considering around three times in a month lang naman siguro ako magpapakarga.

Sorry, hindi ko din kasi alam yun mga tawag sa kanila hehehe!

Fuel Save - Unleaded lang ito, 93 RON
V-Power Nitro+ - Premium ito pero 93 RON din
V-Power Nitro+ Racing - tas ito yun 97 RON

Compare kasi sa ibang brand na premium, sila lang yata ang 93 RON

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regarding sa RON outside europe, tingin ko kasi sa kanila malilinis ang gasolina. hindi katulad sa atin na madumi na nga tas may ethanol pa kaya iba ang sinasabi ng local distributor or dealer sa minimum rating pag daating dito. not sure though...

[valacirca]

^ Ah, thanks. Mukhang Petron XCS nalang nga talaga ako. Pwede ko ba kargahan ng XCS yung sasakyan kahit meron pang 1/3 ng gas sa gas tank, previously loaded with Shell Fuel Save?

[rio5]

Does anyone know why the requirement is different for Europe and for outside Europe?

Kasi previously pinaguusapan natin na RON 95 and minimum recommended for the Rio, right? Pero sa manual RON 91 actually ang nakalagay.

Would anyone know kung ano ba talaga for Rio owners here in the Philippines? RON 95 ba o RON 91?

dont be fooled by the BIG 3 [caltex,petron,shell],sino ba nag babantay sa mga yan kung tama ba octane rating nila,yan petron blaze 100 in reality its only 95,yun 95 yan yun93 at yun 93 yan yun 91.ngayon kung may nakikita ka pang 91 yan yun 87,kaya safe ka na sa 95

[chua_allan]

kaya pala konti lang talaga nakikita ko rio5 exotic car na xa

hay...sayang talaga Bad FC leads to bad sales

Mas gugustuhin ko pang madami sa kalsada ang Rio5 kesa maging exotic.

Exotic = pahirapan sa replacement parts = mahal

[rio5]

kaya pala konti lang talaga nakikita ko rio5 exotic car na xa

hay...sayang talaga Bad FC leads to bad sales

"bad fc leads to bad sales" i like that hehehe,i dont know what to call the kia people if they dont do something about it.sa dami ng competition sa same category.

[valacirca]

dont be fooled by the BIG 3 [caltex,petron,shell],sino ba nag babantay sa mga yan kung tama ba octane rating nila,yan petron blaze 100 in reality its only 95,yun 95 yan yun93 at yun 93 yan yun 91.ngayon kung may nakikita ka pang 91 yan yun 87,kaya safe ka na sa 95

whoa naguluhan ako bigla dun ah. how do you know this sir?

so considering 95 RON is best for the Rio, ano ang dapat kong ikarga? Yung advertised as 95 RON? O yung Petron Blaze na "in reality its only 95"?

kasi may mga iba naman nagsasabi na ung sobrang taas naman ang octane rating, nakakasunog naman daw ng spark plug, parang ganun...

[rio5]

whoa naguluhan ako bigla dun ah. how do you know this sir?

so considering 95 RON is best for the Rio, ano ang dapat kong ikarga? Yung advertised as 95 RON? O yung Petron Blaze na "in reality its only 95"?

kasi may mga iba naman nagsasabi na ung sobrang taas naman ang octane rating, nakakasunog naman daw ng spark plug, parang ganun...

safe ka na sa petron xcs at sa caltex gold

[jpabuel2003]

Mas gugustuhin ko pang madami sa kalsada ang Rio5 kesa maging exotic.

Exotic = pahirapan sa replacement parts = mahal

i think kung parts ng makina and suspension di naman siguro magiging problem since same sila ng Hyundai Accent

[mikmik316]

rio5, chua_allan

Very patethic indeed ang FC natin. Sinabi ko dun sa taga CAC na I am actually downgrading to a 1.4 liter car tapos worst pa sa mga kotseng dinadrive ko dati....

Rav4 3-dr 2liter engine - 8km/liter kahit ihataw mo palagi, naging 7km/liter nung nagkaroon ng halo ang unleaded gas
Pajero FieldMaster 4x4 2.5 liter - 7km/liter kahit ihataw mo pa
Sta Fe 4x2 - 9km/liter kahit ihataw mo pa
Kia Sorento 4x4 - 7km/liter kahit ihataw mo pa
Corolla GLi Lovelife - 10km/liter
Civic EF sedan 14km/liter

Sinabi ko na tutuusin downgrade ang kinuha ko. Small Body, Small Engine tapos worst pa sa mga sasakyang may malaking makina. I told them minimum requirement ko is 8km/liter. Everything I get now is below expectation and I will continue to post dito sa thread na eto hanggang di ko nakukuha yung desired FC ko.

[pop3corn]

Forgot to tell everyone that I had the test drive session with CAC last Saturday.
After doing 4 trips, with controlled eco driving until 2k rpm, i got average consumption for the following:

7.09km/l (heavy traffic)
7.57km/l (moderate traffic)
8.09km/l (normal traffic)
13.89km/l (combined traffic, mostly highway)

Bottomline, bawal lumagpas ng 2k rpm if we want to get the best FC. Only problem with that requirement, bawal na ang "sporty" at "aggressive" driving. Dahil maliit lang makina, parang pagong to accelerate without crossing the 2k rpm.

Applying some principles above, here is my latest FC:

15 liters Petron Blaze 100
Odo: around 1,800++ km.
Eastwood-Makati-Intramuros-Makati-Eastwood, rush hour traffic
Reading: 105.4km
FC: 7.03 km/liter

I asked the CAC representative to inform me ASAP if there are ECU updates for the Rio so that I can further improve my FC.

Grabe para na kayo scientist / guinea pig, kayo na bumili kayo pa tiga-kuha ng data. Tsk tsk.


And 8km/liter is not that impresssive, that CUV territory with 2.0 liter

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