2012 Kia Rio

[rio5]

They give out ATs so that the journos will have an easier time driving them and will more likely write a favorable review.

that is why i am not sure kung ipa test drive sayo A/T ng rio5 because of the bad feedback na nandito anyway ill wait for your report thanks niky

[chua_allan]

What do you think? Possible reason?
Effects of Upsized Wheels and Tires Tested - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

[pop3corn]

What do you think? Possible reason?
Effects of Upsized Wheels and Tires Tested - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

Yup true.

Case in point:

My SF CRDi AT using 235/65R17 - avg. 9km/liter all city
Montero AT using 265/65R17 - avg 7km/liter all city (from Montero thread)

2km diff bec of tire size.

Yun Starex GRX CRdi AT namin - avg 7km/liter all city. Imagined at par Lang sa Montero FC, considering ambigat ng kaha ng 1st gen Starex, since late 90's kaha pa Ito. Eh kasi yun pala tires nya eh 205/70R15 - the same as my CRV 1st gen with Bridgestone Dueller 205/70R15 at also 7km/liter all city pero gas naman to.


and since mas Madami idle time ang MM, imagine always jump starting the big tires from idle sa traffic, grabs talaga FC nyan. Lalo na pag AT, kasi weaker ang gear Nya. Compared to MT na engaged kagad.


Don't pay attention to computer trip meters walang kwenta yan talaga, since early 2000, we had 2 American v6 cars with on board trip meters, Mali-Mali reporting, we did the manual computation based on full tank to empty, ayan lumabas 3km/liter average pag all-city. Chevy and Ford Ito.

So yan readings nyo sa Kia yan na yun.

Imagine nyo rims ng gulong nyo 17" eh rims na ng stock Montero, SF, Sorento yan ah lol, no wonder you're getting a SUV FC numbers. Sa pagkaalam ko yun Sorento na gasoline also uses the same 235/65R17 like the Sorento R and the 2nd gen SF which is averaging at 5.5 km/liter according to Xander and mrgunn sa Sorento thread.


So enjoyin nyo na Lang perks ng top of the line features ng Kia Rio HB, anyways since nakabili nman kayo ng top model, gasoline is no problem


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[mikmik316]

Wala bang Rio HB EB? Para makumpara natin san ba talaga may problem????

I would suggest Kia BGC.

[niky]

Case in point:

My SF CRDi AT using 235/65R17 - avg. 9km/liter all city
Montero AT using 265/65R17 - avg 7km/liter all city (from Montero thread)

True, but not comparable. The Santa Fe has a smaller engine and front/four-wheel drive. The Montero is heavier and has a bigger engine and rear/four-wheel drive.

[spymaker]

fc update: 250km travelled, 120 dyan ay hiway. 9km/l ang fc ko for the second time consecutively. mababa pa rin.

regarding aircon, maliit daw compressor ng kia rio kaya di nararamdaman pag 0n/off nya. at saka, rubber plate daw ang clutch ng compressor kaya walang lagitik pag engage. malaki lang condenser kaya malamig aircon ng rio.

ewan lang kung totoo.

[valacirca]

I would suggest Kia BGC.

Just a side comment... ang gulo/labo kausap nung sales agent na umaasikaso sa amin sa Kia BGC :p

Yung sa Kia Silver City ang mahusay. Pero mas mahal din. So yung mga tanong namin binubuhos namin dun sa Kia Silver City, pero yung purchase sa Kia BGC. Hehe.

[foifoi05]

saan mag labas din ang Kia ng entry level na Rio tapos mt pa. similar sa 1.2L sedan

[RHbacker]

fellow rio HB owners, panu mgkabit ng plate number s harap? pansin ko kasi walang butas for screw.

[Icg168]

*pop3corn

True enough. Dont own a rio5 but basing on my own experience with my crosswind xto. Stock tire size is 205/65r15 with fc of 11-12 km/l depende kung nagpapalamig sa luob while waiting. Purely city driving yan with traffic and short distance travelled. But when time came na mag change tire nah, i used 205/70r15. Dun na nag start magloko fc and nag suffer pa ang acceleration which is barely there to begin with. Mga around 8-9 km/l nalang fc and bumigat pa steering and just imagine 1 size bigger lang ang tire na pinalit, dami nag bago.

To make long story short, suffered for 4 years bago kailangan change ulit. Binalik ko na stock size tires.

Imagine nyo nalang na wheel size nang sedan is 15" then ang hatch is 17". What a big difference. The lesser the tire size the lesser the friction.

Crosswind nalang kayo para hindi nyo na intindihin fc hehe

[cal0i]

^ Whoa... then in that case, my understanding of the Eco Mode was a complete misconception.

I thought that Eco Mode affects a car's shifting for it to upshift quicker and downshift later, thus increasing fuel efficiency at the cost of performance.

Same as i what i know, can anyone else confirm if indicator lang talaga and has no effect on the shifting?


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[c_cube]

Same as i what i know, can anyone else confirm if indicator lang talaga and has no effect on the shifting?


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ang alam ko din indicator lang yun para malaman kung ECO driving ka o hindi. Pero yun sa ibang bansa alam ko yun ECO nila may function talaga eh

[timrev]

sa mga nagbabalak kumuha ng rio e di yun KIA RIO 1.2 LX nalang upgrade & customized nyo nalang

[rio5]

What do you think? Possible reason?
Effects of Upsized Wheels and Tires Tested - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

meron pero maliit lang eh kung compare mo sa 15" tires ang 17" ng rio nasa 23.3mpg minus 22.8mpg difference is .5mpg. i believed na yun sa GEAR RATIO GRAFTni niky ang possible culprit ng poor fc,yun kasi toyota revo namin A/T nag palit ng gear nasa 1600rpm-1700rpm,yun sa rio A/T na notice ko lampas ng 2000rpm bago mag change gear so talagang tapak ka sa gas pedal nyan lalo na kung city driving ka lang,and how can you explain yun sa hyundai accent same engine ng rio eh same din poor FC di naman naka 17"tires and wheels yun,i just hope na ma correct lang problem

[mikmik316]

My latest FC:

19 liters of Caltex Silver
Eco On, Eco Off
Kilometer reading: 128.6

FC: 6.77 km / liter

[valacirca]

^ traffic conditions?

[c_cube]

Nagtataka ako ngayon, mukhang gumanda FC ko ngayon sa parehas na route na dinadaanan ko.

From MID
10.2L/100KM
Avg speed 19km/h
Time: 1 hour
Distance 19.6 kms
ODO 2300kms
Petron Blaze
Mixed - Dona Soleda (Bicutan) w/ medium traffic -> Skyway up tp Don Bosco exit w/ medium traffic * exit-> Osmena hway -> Romualdez -> Quiapo -> Sta. Cruz

Hindi ko alam kung sa Blaze kaya ganyan numbers nakukuha ko dahil first time ko gumamit nito. Dati kasi sa Caltex gold normal sa akin ang 10.8-11.3L/100 km galing sa MID

[valacirca]

yung avg speed and time ba automatically nagrereset yun everytime gamitin yung sasakyan?

[chua_allan]

yung avg speed and time ba automatically nagrereset yun everytime gamitin yung sasakyan?

yes.. kapag matagal nakapatay yung car.. pero kapag sandali lang nakapatay like parang nag double park ka sandali.. hindi magrereset yun

[cyberian]

This is what I find weird. Nakahanap na ng solution for the Accent's poor FC by doing some tweaks on the ECU but for the Rio, wala pa rin until now.

The Rio would have been nice, and possibly be the Jazz' strongest contender if it weren't for the poor FC. 5.5km/L on the city is very disturbing. It's a 1.4L ! Not a 3.5L V6 midsized sedan.

Yung kay cyberian, diyan pa yan sa CDO. Paano pa kaya kapag dinala yan dito at sinabak sa EDSA traffic ? :hammer:

I've been off the grid for a week, failed to update all of you on my progress.

Kia just serviced my Rio5 ECU trying to downgrade the Euro-4 to Euro-2 but but because they can't find a way to access and change the settings. The procedure came up and was recommended by local kia service tech and after consultation with CAC, which agreed to the recommendation. The service department tried the same approach before with the Carens and it was successful but the new ECU of Rio is not easy to access and adapt the changes in config.

Anyway, the "good" news is I was told that a technical engineers from Kia S. Korea is coming over the Country to look into our fc problems. CAC will also be sending a tech here in Cagayan de Oro City to look into my fc problem also. Based on this info I can say Kia is seriously dealing with the situation regarding our poor fc and it won't be long the matter will get resolved soon, I hope.

FC update:
By limiting my engine speed to 2,000rpm in A/T mode yielded a better fc from ave. 5.5km/L to 6.5km/L (manual compute). Although still very high fc for a 1.4L sub-compact car and quite not practical driving in that low rpm all the time but hey, I'll take it! Kaya lang the trips I made on this test of P500 worth of fuel (8.7L) is: total 56.2km on routes going to SM twice and Honda area, all considered highways. Only bout half is normal City traffic conditions.