2012 Kia Rio

[denpacs]

Yung 7km/l ko hindi pa sa heavy traffic yan... Kapag heavy traffic ako.. di tayo nagkakalayo sa fc hahaha...

Sir, sa accelerator niyo.. sensitive ba? akin kasi kapag talagang dahan dahan mo tinapakan.. naka 1cm na tapak ka na walang response tapos paglagpas dun biglang taas to 1500 RPM... Tinesting ko sa Jazz ng utol ko.. hindi naman ganyan..

Feeling ko talaga may something sa idle consumption niya... In terms of hatak ng 1.4L sa hatch wala naman prob eh.. hindi naman hirap..

Sir chua_allan,

I have a 1.4L M/T Sedan and have also noticed that the accelerator is not that sensitive.. Sometimes inaabotan ako na mamatay yung makina sa gitna ng daan from stop to go..
But nevertheless, the engine is quite responsive once you get used of the timing..

[chua_allan]

Sir chua_allan,

I have a 1.4L M/T Sedan and have also noticed that the accelerator is not that sensitive.. Sometimes inaabotan ako na mamatay yung makina sa gitna ng daan from stop to go..
But nevertheless, the engine is quite responsive once you get used of the timing..

So i guess lahat ng 2012 ganyan... tsk tsk... paadjust ko bukas.. dati kasi sa 1st gen sportage namin sensitive yung gas eh.. speaking of 1st gen sportage.. same fc sila ng hatch ko ngayon.. huhu... sana maayos na tong fc problem

[renzo_d10]

You can try doing what I did to our Vios & to a friend's GM City. It's called the relearning procedure. It lessened the evident throttle lag it had due to its DBW system.

[cyberian]

Hmm... Haven't tried that... should I? mamaya sumabog makina ko hahaha

"unless meron na kunting momentum then yon you can feel your back pressing against the seat ala zoom-zoom na."
Baka yan yung sinasabi nilang CVVT...

CVVT is supposed to improve engine performance and efficiency, which I think doesn't show much in my Rio5. CVVT should exhibit remarkedly engine power when you need it and "relaxes" the engine on cruising and especially during IDLE (like in traffic) to SAVE on fuel. This CVVT technology allows the much bigger '06 Toyota Altis 1.6L to run 19km/L (APP test) or 16.66 (DOE test) on the highway. 10km/L on the city with moderate traffic is possible. The Rio5- a 1.4L 2012 model just can't beat a bigger and older 2006 Altis both in highways and City fc. Never mind the performance aspect, the Altis is much quicker, faster and smoother.

My Rio5 A/T transmission responsiveness is slow and acceleration from 0km/hr is like driving on a CVT. Tsk!

Anyway, my Rio5 looks sporty with excellent ride handling characteristics, also abundant in features and standard accessories than the competing models. Less performance (well, it's only 1.4L) and bad fc (well, it's only 1.4L!) Overall, I'm satisfied.

[renzo_d10]

I can't believe despite all that you can still say, at the end of the day, you're satisfied with a car that's supposed to deliver good FC figures and acceptable performance.

I believe there is really something wrong with the 1.4L Gamma engines that Hyundai and Kia brought in. Be hopeful guys, Hyundai found a fix. Won't be long for Kia to do the same ( i hope )

After all, the engines you have are similar to the Accent's. Which as of the moment, according to the owners' claims, consume an average of 8-10km/L on the city. Give and take that the Rio is much heavier ( i suppose bec. of the 17s vs. 14s of Accent ) the consumption shouldn't be any lesser than 6km/L. At that, it's already abnormal. What if the consumption drops to a whooping 5km/L, then it really gets alarming.

Hope Kia would find a fix. Ganda pa naman Rio HB aesthetically.

[gucci88]

Is it really true that kia has no shipments of rio HB arriving i reserved june 26 then they said 2nd week of july then 4th week of july and now my SA told me that final delivery is on august 8. but i think overall the wait will be worth it

[jut703]

Mas magaan yung hatch kaysa sa sedan (1068 kg vs 1170 kg), so says Kia's brochure. It's believable kasi in general naman, hatch bodies are lighter than sedan bodies (Focus, Impreza, Fiesta, etc).

Yung rolling resistance lang siguro ng wider tires yung mas concern, but even then, the 1.4L 108HP Gamma engine shouldn't take too much of a hit since it's a relatively powerful powerplant.

Umaasa ako na makaka 9 km/L sa moderate city driving yung 5-door Rio. Kahit 1.6L Altis kaya yan eh

[weisshorn]

Mas magaan yung hatch kaysa sa sedan (1068 kg vs 1170 kg), so says Kia's brochure. It's believable kasi in general naman, hatch bodies are lighter than sedan bodies (Focus, Impreza, Fiesta, etc).

Yung rolling resistance lang siguro ng wider tires yung mas concern, but even then, the 1.4L 108HP Gamma engine shouldn't take too much of a hit since it's a relatively powerful powerplant.

Umaasa ako na makaka 9 km/L sa moderate city driving yung 5-door Rio. Kahit 1.6L Altis kaya yan eh

I'm quite confident that those rio with FC problem needs ECU remapping. The ethanol blended fuel here is making the ECU program go haywire. KIA will not accept that of course unless KIA korea say it so.
search & watch the RIO British Challenge in Youtube. RIO Hatch was driven from Belfast to London in one full fuel tank, that was 797 miles distance.

[Verbl Kint]

search & watch the RIO British Challenge in Youtube. RIO Hatch was driven from Belfast to London in one full fuel tank, that was 797 miles distance.

Assuming a 40L tank (someone correct me if I'm wrong), this amounts to around 32km/L. This is awesome FC.

[c_cube]

I'm quite confident that those rio with FC problem needs ECU remapping. The ethanol blended fuel here is making the ECU program go haywire. KIA will not accept that of course unless KIA korea say it so.
search & watch the RIO British Challenge in Youtube. RIO Hatch was driven from Belfast to London in one full fuel tank, that was 797 miles distance.

Mukhang wala pa ngang idea ang kia sa FC ng HB eh.. anyone willing to email CAC regarding the concern/s? Hindi ako convincing gumawa ng mga ganyan letter eh hahaha!


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[cyberian]

Guys, I just got a call from my Kia SA informing me the new software update is now available. It was sent by Kia Manila today and unfortunately, service technicians are out of town (Subic) for training and be back by next week pa kaya yong updating ng ECU next week pa possibly Saturday, they need 4-5hrs. of work kasi. This may be it! I am requesting for a detailed report on the fixes and procedures for the benefit of everyone here having the same problem with the fc. Abangan!

[weisshorn]

Assuming a 40L tank (someone correct me if I'm wrong), this amounts to around 32km/L. This is awesome FC.

British miles ito, di ko alam ko parehas ang distance sa US mile. Iba kasi ang liter per gallon nila compara sa US gallon eh. Maybe somebody can confirm this.

[c_cube]

Guys, I just got a call from my Kia SA informing me the new software update is now available. It was sent by Kia Manila today and unfortunately, service technicians are out of town (Subic) for training and be back by next week pa kaya yong updating ng ECU next week pa possibly Saturday, they need 4-5hrs. of work kasi. This may be it! I am requesting for a detailed report on the fixes and procedures for the benefit of everyone here having the same problem with the fc. Abangan!

May Update? tinawagan ko dealer ko (Acropolis) hindi pa nila alam itong update hahaha! wala bang official statement ang CAC?

Tsaka sino ba itong Kia Manila? Kia Manila Bay o Kia New Manila? tatawagan ko din kasi sana eh.

[rio5]

May Update? tinawagan ko dealer ko (Acropolis) hindi pa nila alam itong update hahaha! wala bang official statement ang CAC?

Tsaka sino ba itong Kia Manila? Kia Manila Bay o Kia New Manila? tatawagan ko din kasi sana eh.

guys tumawag ako sa columbian at sinabi ko mga concern natin sa rio hb natinat nabangit ko yun kay cyberian,nasabi ko sa kanila na kailangan mag padala kayo ng tao from korea na nakakaintindi nito,ang sabi ba naman sa akin eh dalhin ko daw kung san ko binili at don ko adress ang problema, sabi ko halos lahat po ng hb nyo ganon ang kunsumo lalo na kapag naka idle lang, maybe we should flood them with complaint heres the number 3105843 kulitin nyo na dapat tignan ng technician nila from korea ang problema

[c_cube]

guys tumawag ako sa columbian at sinabi ko mga concern natin sa rio hb natinat nabangit ko yun kay cyberian,nasabi ko sa kanila na kailangan mag padala kayo ng tao from korea na nakakaintindi nito,ang sabi ba naman sa akin eh dalhin ko daw kung san ko binili at don ko adress ang problema, sabi ko halos lahat po ng hb nyo ganon ang kunsumo lalo na kapag naka idle lang, maybe we should flood them with complaint heres the number 3105843 kulitin nyo na dapat tignan ng technician nila from korea ang problema

Dapat siguro gawin natin thru email tas CC natin yun email sa KIA korea para mapilitan sila pansinin yun issue. pero tinignan ko sa website ng kia ph, walang email ang CAC dun

[rio5]

Dapat siguro gawin natin thru email tas CC natin yun email sa KIA korea para mapilitan sila pansinin yun issue. pero tinignan ko sa website ng kia ph, walang email ang CAC dun

actually katawag ko lang don uli to make an update,gaya ng nasabi ni cyberian nasa subic mga bossing ng columbian napaka arogante ng kausap ko hindi ko na lang sabihin kung sino, sabi ko kasi halo lahat ng nakabili ng unit sa inyo yan ang problema fc lalo na kapag naka idle lang,sabi ba naman sa akin eh mukang ikaw lang naman ang may reklamo sa auto mo bakit ko i adress yan concern mo dapat sa dealer mo muna dalhin yan.i suggest na kulitin nyo dealer nyo na iparating na sa columbian ang concern natin sa fc

[rio5]

cyberian sino ba contact nila dito sa manila na nagsabi na may bago na software for the hatchback? please alamin mo ng ma contact din namin although hindi ganyan kalakas ang fc namin tulad sayo dapat kapag naka idle hindi ganon kalakas tulad ng nasabi mo sa cvvt engine natin . mga sirs na mga naka rio5 pansinin nyo yun sa trip meter nyo,don sa "INST fuel economy" this is my only opinion diba dapat kapag naka idle lang auto natin nasa bandang 11 lang at hindi 19,kung titignan ninyo sa manual natin don sa part na yun may picture nasa 11 lang ang linya hindi naman nila kunan ng picture yun ng umaandar kaya sa tingin ko idle speed nya yun ,yan ay aking opinion lang,para pag tapak mo uli sa gas pedal saka sya aakyat sa banda 19-20,kasi kung nasa 19 na sya sagad na sya sobra sobra pag tapak mo sa gas pedal. although tama ang nasa tacho meter na below 1000 bakit nasa 19 yun instant fuel economy kapag naka idle

[rio5]

Called 2 service branch a while ago... Both walang idea sa ECU update... tsk tsk.. mag papafull diagnostic na din ako bukas.. GDS? around 750-850 daw..

hi sir allan please update us kung ano maging resulta ng diagnosis auto mo,all of us have the same conlusion na sobra kumain ng gas kapag naka idle, dapat explain nila ito,maybe hindi naka program sa bansa natin ecu nito baka europe lalo na yun may feature na stop and go on idle.

[GIC]

ano mas mataas ground clearance, rio hb or jazz? thanks

I think boss mas mataas kia rio. Kasi pretty much ang rio na hindi hb has a bigger clearance than jazz. Just assuming though

[jut703]

I think boss mas mataas kia rio. Kasi pretty much ang rio na hindi hb has a bigger clearance than jazz. Just assuming though

Nope. Jazz has 150mm minimum ground clearance. Rio (both HB and sedan) have 140 mm.