2012 Kia Rio

[cyberian]

Kahit break-in period masyadong malakas yun kay cyberian. Naka eco on pa siya niyan

Kasi yun sa akin, sa city driving with heavy traffic ang naging konsumo 6.7km/l with eco off pero malakas parin for a 1.4.

Pinag tataka ko lang kung bakit sa accent nakakakuha ng 9km/l sa city driving, eh parehas lang naman ang makina. Kaya sa tingin ko sa program ng ecu ang culprit. Malamang iba ang gamit ng kia.


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Really quite possible the cure to my misery is an ECU re-programing. Ang bagal bagal umakyat kung naka A/T, underpowered talaga at nahihirapan ako mag overtake. I am forced to engaged the manual mode and even this I need to build enough momentum to engage the next gear. The engine is noisy, emitting a lot of growl. Pati misis ko worried about the engine noise kahit nasa 2000 rpm lang and accelerating.

In the Optra, Lancer GLi, Spark, Corollas, Sentra, Jazz and Honda City, when I accelerate from the 1st to the 2nd gear in a hurry I can actually feel my back pressing on the seat. I don't felt it on the Rio5. Just like driving the Starex and Pajero 2500 turbos, really feels like a diesel than a gasoline engine to me. Sad, if my fc is this bad at least it should give me a zoom-zoom performance. I hope Kia get it fix on my 1st PMS.

[timo07]

Really quite possible the cure to my misery is an ECU re-programing. Ang bagal bagal umakyat kung naka A/T, underpowered talaga at nahihirapan ako mag overtake. I am forced to engaged the manual mode and even this I need to build enough momentum to engage the next gear. The engine is noisy, emitting a lot of growl. Pati misis ko worried about the engine noise kahit nasa 2000 rpm lang and accelerating.

In the Optra, Lancer GLi, Spark, Corollas, Sentra, Jazz and Honda City, when I accelerate from the 1st to the 2nd gear in a hurry I can actually feel my back pressing on the seat. I don't felt it on the Rio5. Just like driving the Starex and Pajero 2500 turbos, really feels like a diesel than a gasoline engine to me. Sad, if my fc is this bad at least it should give me a zoom-zoom performance. I hope Kia get it fix on my 1st PMS.

Tama si weisshorn, baka katulad nung problema ni bratski on his hyundai accent. Nasundan ko rin yung thread na iyon. Having the same engine platform, this is a strong possibility. If I may suggest, do not wait for the first PMS. Irefer mo na sa dealer for action. Think you have enough data to say that there is something wrong with the car. You have never mentioned the sluggishness before, so that might be it, low power due to incompatible engine tuning to fuel available here.

[renzo_d10]

If all else fails, benta then get a Mazda 2 or a Suzuki Swift. 2 fun little cars

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[cyberian]

Thanks sir timo07 & sir weisshorn, I'll press Kia on this point. The screwed timing probably the reason I pressed more on the gas pedal for more power since the engine lagged a lot. I am waiting for Kia SA to call me when to have the unit checked, he's still securing a car service to swap with my car while it's in their shop. Sabi nila they need a total of 3 days daw to check and test the car.

*renzo_d10: I just saw the Mazda3 HB and boy, it's big and a beauty. Maliit lang horsepower, yong 1.6L pareho lang sa Rio5. Suzuki Swift 1.4A/T fc sabi ng Sales Agent nasa 14km/L actual city (cagayan de oro) and that's the minimum according to customers' feed backs. I doubted it but the SA is willing to have their unit tested for fc purposes, like what mazda offered. I tested the Chevy Orlando before and was impressed with the fc at 9.2km/L. I actually had a P.O. for it before I cancelled it in favor of Rio5 as the replacement for the Starex dahil mas practical sa City and easy to park. I love the Rio5 styling naman including the interior design, features, material and fit and finish except the fc. There's still chance for an improvement... hopefully after check-up.

[RHbacker]

Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

[PsychoMp3]

I don't consider the Rio HB underpowered anymore compared to our 2005 Honda City GD8 1.3 Liter, the 7-speed matic was it's selling point then and the worst if I may say amongst our cars at the time, worst fuel efficiency and worst when loaded with people or stuff as it can't even overtake a jeepney going to Tagaytay. the 1.3 City is only 84Hp / 88 PS. it achieved minimum 5 KM/L maximum when my cousin borrowed it reached was 12 Km/L all city driving.

[c_cube]

Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

Hmmm... ganun kalaki ang improvement? Parang masyadong malayo ha. Malalaman ko yan pag ganyan na mileage ng unit ko.

7.5k ang susundin ko sa pms, hindi ako sumusunod sa month. Sabi din naman ng SA ko 7.5k talaga ang una.

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[jpabuel2003]

Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

KIA RIO 2012 Sedan po sakin, same din ng observation ko 0-1000+ kms around 7km/L, after 2000+ 10km/L pure city driving -normal stop and go with a little heavy traffic and 2 subdivision + kasama lagi Wife ko na kasing laki ko.

[cyberian]

KIA RIO 2012 Sedan po sakin, same din ng observation ko 0-1000+ kms around 7km/L, after 2000+ 10km/L pure city driving -normal stop and go with a little heavy traffic and 2 subdivision + kasama lagi Wife ko na kasing laki ko.

Sir jpabuel2003, I hope you can give me more details of your unit if you don't mind. Where you bought it and serviced, your Sales Agent and their contact number so I can have a basis to demand from my Kia Casa to have my unit fix with reference to your Casa para sila na ang mag usap kung paano na improved yong sa yo.

[cyberian]

Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

Sir RHbacker, same thing po sa yo. I hope you can give me more details of your unit if you don't mind. Where you bought it and serviced, your Sales Agent and their contact number so I can have a basis to demand from my Kia Casa to have my unit fix with reference from your Casa para sila na ang mag usap kung paana e-improved yong sa akin like yours.

[timrev]

kia 1.2 Rio
gusto ko lang po sana matanong yun mga owner ng 1.2 RIO sa-
fuel consumption?
issue sa engine?

isa sa pinagpipilian namin--
haba na kasi ng thread taz 1.4 rio lagi ko nababasa

[jpabuel2003]

Sir jpabuel2003, I hope you can give me more details of your unit if you don't mind. Where you bought it and serviced, your Sales Agent and their contact number so I can have a basis to demand from my Kia Casa to have my unit fix with reference to your Casa para sila na ang mag usap kung paano na improved yong sa yo.

naku sir walang ginawa ang Casa, gumanda FC ko dahil siguro s break in, kaka 1st PMS ko lang ng June (4,300kms 5months). sabi kasi 7500kms or 4months whichever comes first,pero ok lang naman pala kahit lampas 4months. KIA pampanga ko nakuha unit ko,KIA north Edsa ako nag PMS (parehas kasi LAUS group kaya Free 1st PMS according to them) i cant recommend KIA North Edsa mahal maningil 4,500 quote sakin, kaya pinakaltas ko yung mga alam kong di naman kailangan sa 1st PMS,kya naging 3,400+ nalang.
KIA RIO Sedan 1.4. I suggest sir sundin mo break-in na sinasabi sa Manual.

[c_cube]

KIA RIO 2012 Sedan po sakin, same din ng observation ko 0-1000+ kms around 7km/L, after 2000+ 10km/L pure city driving -normal stop and go with a little heavy traffic and 2 subdivision + kasama lagi Wife ko na kasing laki ko.

this is good news kung ganito nga nangyayari sa 1.4at engine ng rio. pero nasa 500+ palang odo ko hahaha!

sana nga gumanda FC, 7km/l din compute ko sa ngayon pag city driving eh

[cyberian]

naku sir walang ginawa ang Casa, gumanda FC ko dahil siguro s break in, kaka 1st PMS ko lang ng June (4,300kms 5months). sabi kasi 7500kms or 4months whichever comes first,pero ok lang naman pala kahit lampas 4months. KIA pampanga ko nakuha unit ko,KIA north Edsa ako nag PMS (parehas kasi LAUS group kaya Free 1st PMS according to them) i cant recommend KIA North Edsa mahal maningil 4,500 quote sakin, kaya pinakaltas ko yung mga alam kong di naman kailangan sa 1st PMS,kya naging 3,400+ nalang.
KIA RIO Sedan 1.4. I suggest sir sundin mo break-in na sinasabi sa Manual.

Thanks for the quick reply sir. Tanong lang po, Manual or A/T yong sa yo?

Assuming A/T, excited ako ma-achieve yong fc mo if ever it's possible. That's almost twice what I'm having now! So far, it's hard to believe my fc will achieve a dramatic 70% improvement like at the level your having now and based on previous brand new vehicles from Nissan, Toyota to Chevy wala pa akong na experience na ganyan kalaki after break-in. The most is 20% fc and a little more peak power. Even adding performance chips the improvement will only be an additional of about 20% tops.

Nevertheless, I look forward to achieving your numbers, kahit around 8km/L nalang happy na ako. Kia's slogan: "the power to surprise" already hit me, the bad fc that is! I hope it will surprise me with a complete turn around any time soon after PMS check-up.

By the way, my Casa PMS advisory: 1st 1k = PMS check-up (probably change fuel & oil filters); next is every 7,500k mark on ODO or 6-months whichever comes first.

[RHbacker]

Sir RHbacker, same thing po sa yo. I hope you can give me more details of your unit if you don't mind. Where you bought it and serviced, your Sales Agent and their contact number so I can have a basis to demand from my Kia Casa to have my unit fix with reference from your Casa para sila na ang mag usap kung paana e-improved yong sa akin like yours.

i bought my unit from KIA Ortigas thru my SA sa KIA Marilao kc alang HB graphite available sa kanila that time. Right now wla pko sa 1st PMS. i just followed what the manual said - like during break in stage the ideal variable speed is between 2K-4K rpm, so naihahataw ko din cya ng 100 - 130kph on hway. first observation ko is malakas tlg fc nya pag idle ska during the first 1000km, medyo late reaction nya when you step on the gas pedal, ung parang kapos sa arangkada, pero right now nagimprove n un. saka i regularly check my tire pressure on a weekly basis - 32psi ang TP ko. eco on function all the time. 23C ang ambient temp ko lagi. overall, im happy with Rio HB. pangit lang talaga ung busina nya! d bagay sa porma! hehe!
sana magimprove ung syo sir cyberian.

[denpacs]

Newbie here..

I have one question on my Rio Sedan M/T..
I purchased this one last April here in CDO and so far my FC is quite good..

My only concern is that when I encounter some sudden humps in the road, I hear some vibrating noise under the steering wheel or above the pedals..
Anyone of you encountered this kind of problem?
I'm planning to go to the casa this weekend to have this checked to their technician/mechanic..
Should I claim for warranty if they find something wrong in my car? e.g. loose cables, untightened modules, loose bolts, etc..

Hope you could help me with this one cause the noise is very irritating considering that this is brand new..

[jpabuel2003]

Thanks for the quick reply sir. Tanong lang po, Manual or A/T yong sa yo?

Assuming A/T, excited ako ma-achieve yong fc mo if ever it's possible. That's almost twice what I'm having now! So far, it's hard to believe my fc will achieve a dramatic 70% improvement like at the level your having now and based on previous brand new vehicles from Nissan, Toyota to Chevy wala pa akong na experience na ganyan kalaki after break-in. The most is 20% fc and a little more peak power. Even adding performance chips the improvement will only be an additional of about 20% tops.

Nevertheless, I look forward to achieving your numbers, kahit around 8km/L nalang happy na ako. Kia's slogan: "the power to surprise" already hit me, the bad fc that is! I hope it will surprise me with a complete turn around any time soon after PMS check-up.

By the way, my Casa PMS advisory: 1st 1k = PMS check-up (probably change fuel & oil filters); next is every 7,500k mark on ODO or 6-months whichever comes first.

KIA RIO 2012 1.4 manual 6speed po sakin, 8kms/L po pag heavy traffic. tapos kung super heavy traffic like 30kms tatakbuhin mo ng 2hours babagsak pa yan ng 5-6kms/L, mejo malakas sa gas pag heavy traffic. pero pag normal stop and go and light to moderate 10kms/L.
tama po si RHbacker - I also followed what the manual said about the break-in period.

[spymaker]

my ex mt somewhat improved its fc from 5-6km/l to 6-7km/l last week. what is surprising was that i changed my driving style from low rev to high rev. i change gear almost 2k rpm now instead of 1.5k rpm before.

regarding fc computation, we should all establish fixed variables to get accurate readings. it is unfair to blame the engine for heavy traffic, terrain, driver's habit, kilometers covered, etc, etc. what is constant here is time and rpm. what any serious car owner should do is to first determine at what rpm he/she wants to test the fc of the car. second, determine the speed generated at that rpm in 6th gear and compute the distance covered at that speed for an hour. third, have a full tank. fourth, run the car's engine at the desired rpm while parked for 15min or 30min or an hour if desired.. fifth, have it full tanked then compute manually.

if you use 6th gear, that will be your maximum efficiency rating.
if you use 1st gear, that will be your worst effiency rating. if you get worse result than this, something is wrong with your engine.

[cyberian]

i bought my unit from KIA Ortigas thru my SA sa KIA Marilao kc alang HB graphite available sa kanila that time. Right now wla pko sa 1st PMS. i just followed what the manual said - like during break in stage the ideal variable speed is between 2K-4K rpm, so naihahataw ko din cya ng 100 - 130kph on hway. first observation ko is malakas tlg fc nya pag idle ska during the first 1000km, medyo late reaction nya when you step on the gas pedal, ung parang kapos sa arangkada, pero right now nagimprove n un. saka i regularly check my tire pressure on a weekly basis - 32psi ang TP ko. eco on function all the time. 23C ang ambient temp ko lagi. overall, im happy with Rio HB. pangit lang talaga ung busina nya! d bagay sa porma! hehe!
sana magimprove ung syo sir cyberian.

Thanks sir RHbacker for the reply. Your similar positive feedback like everyone else is giving me hope on my bad fc situation. I am just surprised to encounter such a terrible fc coming from a subcompact car if I compare it with the other bnew but bigger vehicles I used to drive. I also have a daily regular routine kaya madali ko ma-compare yong fc ng Rio5 sa other previous vehicles. Bukas I am anticipating my 4th full tank to be empty and it's not doing good in my observation. Right now the ODO traveled is 152km at slightly below 1/4 on the fuel gauge. If I can make it to 190km bukas then in my estimate based on 34.34L of XCS, it would be around 5.5km/L. Not very encouraging.

You are right, pangit yong busina kasi isa lang at maliit pa so I had mine replaced with Hella Germany.

[cyberian]

Newbie here..

I have one question on my Rio Sedan M/T..
I purchased this one last April here in CDO and so far my FC is quite good..

My only concern is that when I encounter some sudden humps in the road, I hear some vibrating noise under the steering wheel or above the pedals..
Anyone of you encountered this kind of problem?
I'm planning to go to the casa this weekend to have this checked to their technician/mechanic..
Should I claim for warranty if they find something wrong in my car? e.g. loose cables, untightened modules, loose bolts, etc..

Hope you could help me with this one cause the noise is very irritating considering that this is brand new..

Sir denpacs, welcome kababayan!

May I ask your present average city fc and normal routes? Mine is Nazareth--St. Mary's School (Mandomol) (3x a day Mon-Fri)--and Divisoria XU area lang with few side trips to Kitkai, SM and Ororama Cogon areas once in a while during the week and my average fc is below 6km/L straight for the last 4 full tanks. I don't get stuck sa traffic long enough, usually 5 minutes tops lang because I choose my routes and time of day well.

I have not observed such vibration as you have described but I did hear a lot of front suspension rattles on the first 3 days from delivery kasi the casa had the tires inflated to 57 front 52 rear, way above the maximum limit of the tire! Buti nalang hindi nag explode sa potholes. The problem was brought to a tolerable level after bringing down the pressure to the factory recommended settings of 32psi. Tolerable level because it's a 17" 45 series tires, which is harder on the suspensions. It is still noisy to me compared to the Chevy Optra with a 50 series or the Honda Jazz of my brother with a 16" 45 series tires kaya slow down ako especially on any road with rough or large and exposed pebble surfaces including on bridges road gaps like sa Carmen Bridge. Rio5 front suspensions to me is just not tight and well insulated. I wonder what it will be like after a couple of years down the road. BTW, the 2004 Optra's front suspensions are still tight and no rattles even at 110K mileage, orig pa rin lahat and no suspension repairs or parts replacement, ever!

Under chassis including mechanical parts are under warranty especially at this early of wear and tear, which is abnormal and premature, I think. Adjustment or tightening/correction lang siguro na sya sir.

FYI, my Kia SA is Ian.