2012 Kia Rio

[cyberian]

thank you cyberian for sharing your experience with the hb. imo it's hard to believe that you get as low as 4km/l because some owners of both sedan and hb are getting better results. siguro one of the reason why others are getting good fc is because they are wearing 15"s. 17's i think is best for 1.6 GDI

sir, ilan pala usually ang sakay? if the car is always full, this might be one of the reason why you get poor fc.

try not to let your gas pass half and try to compute your fc from the suggestions above baka sakali magimprove. otherwise, there must be a problem with the engine or computer.


please do update us and i hope that's not always the case.

Regarding passengers: 5 in the family. My children are ages 8, 11 and 18. My teen son is always out on his own world and absent most of the time on my usual drives, that left me with 4 passengers and no one else. But today school just started and all kids are at school the whole day so that would leave me and my wife riding most of the time in the car during the day.

Regarding driving style: Yes, I am very easy on the gas and always keep in mind to see to it that the green ECO light on the dash always on. My hatchback is new, less than 2 weeks old and I really want to see the fc on the following: 1. casual city driving both on NO traffic (Sunday night run around the city) and on a separate occasion of on regular traffic; 2. City and Highway combination; 3. aggressive driving (speed) with overtaking (sudden acceleration); and 4. pure highway.

Once I got the baseline of the fuel consumptions it would be easier for me to get estimated fc on the above driving conditions. As of this time, I'm still on number 1- casual city driving on full tank.

Regarding Tires: Yes, bigger sizes especially the wider the tires would get poorer fc due to more friction and resistance on the ground that translates to better grip.

I'll be posting soon on fc updates and the local Kia response/servicing on my poor fc. They are just waiting for the 1st PMS to come and the unit right now is somewhere at 200 kms palang (forgot to check the total mileage).

[cyberian]

Or try using your rio with eco mode OFF... baka mag iba din consumption mo.


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I'll keep that in mind and try it soon after I consumed the first full tank on present setup para accurate yong reading ko for this "controlled" fc test evaluation on normal city driving in full A/T. Once I've done with my test number 4 (pure highway), I will also try driving it in pure manual/sport mode on city, highway and combined.

By the way, I'm in Cagayan de Oro and driving with or without traffic around the city here is different in Manila where crossings (mas malaki mga blocks nyo dyan) are further apart allowing your car to travel more on same fuel during light or no traffic. Moderate to heavy traffic is too subjective to make a fair comparison.

Anyway, to get a fair fc on other vehicles for comparison purposes such as vios, altis, rio (old), accent (new), and accent diesel (old), I asked taxi drivers on their regular fc kasi we drive on the same city on the same road and traffic conditions. Mostly, if not all of the seasoned drivers have about the same reply or very near in their figures. Aside from them, fc is a normal topic talked about among friends and families who has vehicles especially all-new models.

Just kanina I took a taxi ride to buy a power wire for the new Hella horn and left the car at the local kia dealer affiliated shop, which was already being worked on. I ask both taxi drivers (to and back, both old model altis) regarding fc and the first taxi driver fc's on various taxis he rented since are: vios - 8-9km/L, altis (old) 10km/L, rio (old) 6-7km/L malakas daw like the new accent gas he drove recently kaya he and other taxi drivers he knows will avoid the renting the new accent taxi. He was impressed with the accent diesel (old) though and bragged the 14-17km/L and 22+km/L highway and how fast it accelerates. It wobbles lang daw if it hit a potholes sa highway at mataas ang rent. He was not surprise how mataas fc ko like the rio (old) he used to drive, malakas daw sa gas. The second driver said the same 10km/L but added that a poorly maintained altis taxis nasa 8km/L daw, nissan lec at 8km/L. Both of them said the fc's are city driving. The sad thing was, the second driver was in disbelief of my fc and just laughed. He was amused upon seeing the size of the hatchback was when we arrived sa shop and brand new pa, malakas pala sa gas. This is exactly why I didn't yet tell my friends and extended families (my bro saw and drove it the 1st day I got it but no actual fc to talk about yet except replying to him the figure sabi ng kia SA) I bought a Rio hatch. I can only imagine their faces and comments while making fun at my buy. grrr!

[reuelc]

hi cyberian, im still positive that your rio fc will improve. look for an open highway and try to break-in the car.. yung tipong steady 120kph and try to randomly hit 140-150.

check also club rio ph forums. im not sure if the figures are real but they are saying otherwise about the old rios fc.

ano ba color baka depende sa color kaya malakas sa gas.. joke. honestly, im a bit dissuaded to consider this car if that's really the case. i understand what you feel and i will feel the same if im at your shoes. i can live with getting an ave of 7-8 mixed but below that i will be very much disapointed.

[timo07]

I don't know the advantage of ECO mode in the Rio. It's always ON when I'm driving but the fuel consumption is even worst than the Chevy Optra 1.6 of my family.

FC REPORT:

1st Fill:
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Filled up 9.2L (P500) unleaded: distance to empty = 154km
- Road and traffic condition = mix city & highway, light to moderate traffic
- Driving style, speed: light footed, 70KM max. speed (highway)
- distance traveled on next fuel low warning light (same fuel left at 52km distance to empty) = 42km
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 15.4L/100km or 6.5km/L
- Actual FC (manual computation): 42km/9.2L = 4.56km/L

2nd Fill:
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Filled up 9.2L (P500) unleaded: distance to empty = 154km
- Road and traffic condition = CITY only, NO traffic (Sunday night on FC test run)
- Driving style, speed: light footed, 20-60km/hr (stops on red traffic lights and slow down on intersections)
- Distance traveled on next fuel low warning light (same fuel left at 52km distance to empty) = 47km
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 13.8L/100km or 7.2km/L
- Actual FC (manual computation): 47km/9.2L = 5.10km/L

3rd Fill: (full tank)
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Full tank at 35L (P1,900): distance to empty = 576km
- Road and traffic condition = CITY only, light to moderate with about 10% heavy
- Driving style, speed: light footed, variable
- Fuel gauge reading as of today: 1/4 level, 145 km distance to empty (trip computer)
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 16.2L/100km or 6.17km/L
- Actual kilometers reading since reset = 145kms
- Actual FC (manual computation) = not available yet, waiting for fuel low warning light to go off.
- My Prediction: around 6km/L on trip computer and actual FC will be around 4.5km/L if I based it on my 1st fill-up yield.

This is only based on my recollection and actual observation. Fuel economy may improved after break-in of 1,000 kms (1st PMS), which I seriously hope so. I haven't tried driving on pure highway (out of town) or driven the car aggressively (zoom-zoom). Also, I haven't tried driving in sport mode as I am driving and testing the unit on city for fc.

Granted the actual fuel consumption (manual computation) improves by 1-2 Liters, but still at 6.5km/L this Rio hatchback is looking more likely to be fuel guzzler for it's size, weight, classification/category and displacement. The much bigger, heavier and more powerful Altis 1.6 has better fc, ask any taxi drivers and the answer is always around 10Km/L City. I drove the Honda Fit 1.5 A/T & City (2011) 1.5 A/T, both has an average of 9.8L/100km City FC.

I cancelled the Bank P.O. for the 2012 Chevy Orlando for this after being convinced by the wife that this Rio is a practical choice for our family of 5 (8,11 & 18 yr old children), and fuel efficient nga daw sabi Kia. The looks, features, standard equipment and the prospect of low fuel economy are the things I took serious consideration.

I informed Kia salesman on my poor FC and he's advising me to give them 2 days to assess and check the unit once it reached 1,000 kms for its 1st PMS. They will perform some tests daw and mentioned plugging in a 1 liter fuel container direct to the engine to test manually the fc. I trust Kia will do it's job to ascertain the cause of the irregular and "not normal" fc on my Rio.

Although it's premature to say if this Rio is "malakas sa gas" at this time, one thing this Rio reminds me of at this time is the Land Cruiser I have back in college that has a 6-cylinder 2F gas engine with an average FC of 4km/L, but the fuel then costs around P8.00/L!

I'll be posting soon my FC on the 3rd fill-up as mentioned above.

You really need to make a series of fill-ups and manual fc computation to make a reliable fc trend. As much as possible, fill up from the same station and on the same pump. It's just sad that Dealers will make false claims just to make the sale.

[renzo_d10]

I can understand your frustration, no matter how cheap the fuel is already it sucks to have a small car that drinks so much gas.

True enough that older Accents deliver good fuel efficiency and has good power. Sucks that they did not bring the Accent CRDi here.

I bought a Vios over an Accent simply because I got scared of the problems that the units shared with each other. I made a right choice, abundant low-end torque and incredible fuel efficiency.

Anyway, yep try to not engage the ECO mode as it somehow strains your engine just to become fuel efficient. Also, if you can, try to not stay in low speeds as sometimes staying in lower gears = poorer fc.

Goodluck!

[cyberian]

hi cyberian, im still positive that your rio fc will improve. look for an open highway and try to break-in the car.. yung tipong steady 120kph and try to randomly hit 140-150.

check also club rio ph forums. im not sure if the figures are real but they are saying otherwise about the old rios fc.

ano ba color baka depende sa color kaya malakas sa gas.. joke. honestly, im a bit dissuaded to consider this car if that's really the case. i understand what you feel and i will feel the same if im at your shoes. i can live with getting an ave of 7-8 mixed but below that i will be very much disapointed.

I'll try hitting the high gears soon when I'm done city fc tests. I haven't tried manual driving, aggressive driving and high speed dahil din mababa pa mileage at kailangan pa taposin ang break-in (1,000 kms & 1st PMS).

I really have no idea the old Rio fc as it has not caught my attention and interest before. Just learned about it during my recent chat with the taxi driver. I'll check the site you recommended.

I advice you not to get discourage on my fc, it's premature and could be an isolated case. For me it's still money's worth and I have no regrets. I love driving the Rio and it really look great! People stare at the car every now and then.

Mine is red and it really look red hot especially when the sun is bright kaya siguro malakas sa gas, hehe.

[cyberian]

I advice everyone planning to get a Rio to not get discourage on my fc. It's still premature and if indeed mine has a problem, it could be isolated and Kia may find a fix once they start checking the unit on the 1st PMS. So far, I am a happy owner of the hatch as well as the rest of my family. Our FC is just a concern we can live with.

[cyberian]

You really need to make a series of fill-ups and manual fc computation to make a reliable fc trend. As much as possible, fill up from the same station and on the same pump. It's just sad that Dealers will make false claims just to make the sale.

I'll do that, it's where I'm going actually. Thanks!

Dealers claim of low fc are common everywhere but what I'm having is way below the normal fc of cars this size, displacement and weight. Mine may be an isolated case unless other owners of the same hatch will make similar claim.

I'll be making fc report on every full tank every now and then. Soon a fc trend will be establish on my ride.

[renzo_d10]

Mas advisable hatawin yung kotse during break in. 100-110-120-130-140-130-120-130kph I mean, hit the high speeds pero don't stay in that speed for long. Constantly change your speed.

Makikita mo after your 1st change oil gaganda FC mo. Old days na yung below 80kph ang break in

[cyberian]

I can understand your frustration, no matter how cheap the fuel is already it sucks to have a small car that drinks so much gas.

True enough that older Accents deliver good fuel efficiency and has good power. Sucks that they did not bring the Accent CRDi here.

I bought a Vios over an Accent simply because I got scared of the problems that the units shared with each other. I made a right choice, abundant low-end torque and incredible fuel efficiency.

Anyway, yep try to not engage the ECO mode as it somehow strains your engine just to become fuel efficient. Also, if you can, try to not stay in low speeds as sometimes staying in lower gears = poorer fc.

Goodluck!

True, my friends' CRDi Accents are so fuel efficient that they enjoy using it more than any other vehicles. When I heard the taxi driver's comment on his high fc experience with the new accent (taxi), I begun checking the accent forum for fc feedback. Some said it suck at fc but others gave great fc on city. There's too many variables on city driving that making fair comparison is a challenge. Mas madali kung ang sabihin ay, I go this fc but on my other ride it has this fc on the same road and traffic conditions. Just like what I did on my first fuel up with the Rio hatch, I tried driving the same route and traffic (time of day) condition I drove my brother's Honda Fit that yielded 9.8L/100km (10.2L/Km) on the trip computer.

I'll try disengaging the ECO soon but not now para consistent ang reading ko on this present batch of full tank. Regarding the gears, it's on full auto. I'll try other combinations one at a time from pure city on A/T then Manual on next fuel fill to highway (A/T then manual) and combo highway-city.

Thanks!

[cyberian]

Mas advisable hatawin yung kotse during break in. 100-110-120-130-140-130-120-130kph I mean, hit the high speeds pero don't stay in that speed for long. Constantly change your speed.

Makikita mo after your 1st change oil gaganda FC mo. Old days na yung below 80kph ang break in

Well that's interesting! I'll try doing that before 1,000km. I'll full tank the car then ride high on straights for 30 kms then full tank again so I can make manual computations. Right now establish ko muna baselines so I can track the improvements.

[timo07]

I'll try hitting the high gears soon when I'm done city fc tests. I haven't tried manual driving, aggressive driving and high speed dahil din mababa pa mileage at kailangan pa taposin ang break-in (1,000 kms & 1st PMS).

I really have no idea the old Rio fc as it has not caught my attention and interest before. Just learned about it during my recent chat with the taxi driver. I'll check the site you recommended.

I advice you not to get discourage on my fc, it's premature and could be an isolated case. For me it's still money's worth and I have no regrets. I love driving the Rio and it really look great! People stare at the car every now and then.
Mine is red and it really look red hot especially when the sun is bright kaya siguro malakas sa gas, hehe.

cyberian, if my experience is any indication, the Old Rio's fc is not so bad. It's a 2010 titanium silver EX variant with 1.4 L. I'm getting average 9kpl on city driving and had made 14kpl on almost all highway driving. However, it will not beat a Vios in that dept. I easily get 11.5kpl when I still had the car. Well, I hope you'll get positive resolution on the fc issue on your car. It might really be too early to tell.

[cyberian]

cyberian, if my experience is any indication, the Old Rio's fc is not so bad. It's a 2010 titanium silver EX variant with 1.4 L. I'm getting average 9kpl on city driving and had made 14kpl on almost all highway driving. However, it will not beat a Vios in that dept. I easily get 11.5kpl when I still had the car. Well, I hope you'll get positive resolution on the fc issue on your car. It might really be too early to tell.

If my hatch had an fc like that it would put a smile on my face every time I drive. Right now it's just a dream and hopefully it will come true. Thanks for the info, gives me hope of an fc improvement.

[spencersy]

owners of 2012 kia rio hatchback sulit ba itong car? im planning to get one this week tou having second thoughts... any comments?
btw one dealer is offering a 10K discount ok na ba ito? thanks

[cyberian]

owners of 2012 kia rio hatchback sulit ba itong car? im planning to get one this week tou having second thoughts... any comments?
btw one dealer is offering a 10K discount ok na ba ito? thanks

despite my poor fc at the moment (could be isolated case) I will still recommend this car because it offers a lot for the money. I bought it at P868k (price is higher here in Cagayan de Oro City). The features and accessories is one of the best in it's class. Power is sufficient, ride and comfort is great, fit and finish as well are great, has "concept design" factory rims that beats anything stock out there, surprisingly spacious inside, and easy to drive. Sounds and horn lang ang kailangan palitan.

Try and sit inside and compare it with the others and you will feel the design is more updated, to me at least. Test drive and compare, the ride is great and corners better. Fiesta's handling and power is better though.

[cyberian]

For those who are waiting for my FC on my 1st full tank, here are the numbers:

Full tanked on June 4, 2012 - Petron XCS= 34.60L

> Trip Computer Display (reset):
Distance to Empty - 476km
Distance Traveled (set at Odometer TRIP B) - 204.9km
AVG Fuel Economy - 15.5L/100km (6.45km/L)

> Manual Computation:
Full Tank (Liter) - 34.60L
Distance Traveled (Odometer TRIP B) - 204.9km
AVG Fuel Consumption (204.9km/34.6L) - That's 5.92km/L folks!

Note: Road and driving condition-
Full A/T, light footed (ECO always ON), City driving (avoiding long & heavy traffic as much as possible through alternative routes and scheds), Max. speed 70km/hr. on about 30km of highway drive (2 round trips to LTO & no traffic congestion both Savemore & Bulua intersections), passengers: 5 with 3 kids ages 8, 11 & 18 yr olds (less than half of the time) but usually 2 passengers (spouses).

At 5.92km/L city, this is by far higher than both City and Jazz 1.5, corolla 1.6, Optra 1.6, Orlando 1.8, lancer 1.6 and Sentra 1.6 that I had driven. I was expecting this car to consume 7.5-8km/L city on it's least economical run (FC high side) and 8-9km/L on average economy (FC low side) as I was made to believed (Kia SA said it's 8-9km/L city, 10-12 highway) but I was wrong.

Anyway, it's all premature yet as of this time and I am just on my 2nd full tank and I will post the results soon. I am also looking forward to it's 1st PMS as Kia SA promised to look into the cause of the high FC. After this full tank I'll try highway fc tests naman.

I would like to ask fellow owners of hatchback to post your average FC (both city and highway if possible) together with road/traffic conditions so we can all have ideas on it's average FC. Most kasi nabasa ko ang FC of sedan 1.2 & 1.4 at manual pa. Thanks in advance!

[c_cube]

Got our HB white last night...

After driving it from broadway to paranaque, it log in 8.8L/100km. apx 70 HWAY - 30 City

When i got the unit mileage was 9KM then got home, it was 41KM. Max speed was 90kmh while on SLEX and 60-70 while on C5

Mixed City and Hiway -slight traffic at ortigas going to C5.

ECO mode was turned OFF

owners of 2012 kia rio hatchback sulit ba itong car? im planning to get one this week tou having second thoughts... any comments?
btw one dealer is offering a 10K discount ok na ba ito? thanks

you got pm

[denpacs]

For those who are waiting for my FC on my 1st full tank, here are the numbers:

Full tanked on June 4, 2012 - Petron XCS= 34.60L

> Trip Computer Display (reset):
Distance to Empty - 476km
Distance Traveled (set at Odometer TRIP B) - 204.9km
AVG Fuel Economy - 15.5L/100km (6.45km/L)

> Manual Computation:
Full Tank (Liter) - 34.60L
Distance Traveled (Odometer TRIP B) - 204.9km
AVG Fuel Consumption (204.9km/34.6L) - That's 5.92km/L folks!

Note: Road and driving condition-
Full A/T, light footed (ECO always ON), City driving (avoiding long & heavy traffic as much as possible through alternative routes and scheds), Max. speed 70km/hr. on about 30km of highway drive (2 round trips to LTO & no traffic congestion both Savemore & Bulua intersections), passengers: 5 with 3 kids ages 8, 11 & 18 yr olds (less than half of the time) but usually 2 passengers (spouses).

At 5.92km/L city, this is by far higher than both City and Jazz 1.5, corolla 1.6, Optra 1.6, Orlando 1.8, lancer 1.6 and Sentra 1.6 that I had driven. I was expecting this car to consume 7.5-8km/L city on it's least economical run (FC high side) and 8-9km/L on average economy (FC low side) as I was made to believed (Kia SA said it's 8-9km/L city, 10-12 highway) but I was wrong.

Anyway, it's all premature yet as of this time and I am just on my 2nd full tank and I will post the results soon. I am also looking forward to it's 1st PMS as Kia SA promised to look into the cause of the high FC. After this full tank I'll try highway fc tests naman.

I would like to ask fellow owners of hatchback to post your average FC (both city and highway if possible) together with road/traffic conditions so we can all have ideas on it's average FC. Most kasi nabasa ko ang FC of sedan 1.2 & 1.4 at manual pa. Thanks in advance!

* cyberian:

Sorry to hear about your FC experience on your Kia Rio HB.
I would just like to share my FC experience on my Kia Rio Sedan M/T.

I purchased my car last April 31 and so far from my usage, I'm quite satisfied with the FC.
My City Driving FC is around 10-13 Km/L while my Highway FC is around 18-20 Km/L.
I am also residing in Cagayan de Oro and I primarily use my car in going to the office.
My city driving involves going to Malls and Church.
While my highway driving is going to the office which is located in Villanueva, around 25 Kms from the city.

I'm not quite sure why your FC is very Low but for my experience, I am satisfied by the Efficiency of this car.

By the way, you have mentioned from your previous post that you have changed your car horn from an authorized Kia dealer/store.
May i know which store is this and where it is located?

I do hope you will find the way to make your car more efficient since I believe Kia Rio is a very Fuel Efficient car.

[cyberian]

Got our HB white last night...

After driving it from broadway to paranaque, it log in 8.8L/100km. apx 70 HWAY - 30 City

When i got the unit mileage was 9KM then got home, it was 41KM. Max speed was 90kmh while on SLEX and 60-70 while on C5

Mixed City and Hiway -slight traffic at ortigas going to C5.

ECO mode was turned OFF



you got pm

Congrats on your new ride! And thank you for sharing your fc.

Indeed, your figure is possible and I observed it myself just this 2:AM (Zero traffic congestion, traffic lights not functioning) on a brief run to the bus terminal on the outskirt of the city via the highway. INSTant Fuel Economy bar is around 8-10, average speed 65kph. It tempted me to go further to the next town about 20km away but I don't want to distort the city fc results as this is my second full tank evaluation.

It's now currently at 13.8L/100km on a 47.2km odometer run (around 14km of that is highway as stated above) and about 80% (slightly above 3/4 fuel level) on the tank left. I will update my fc report again soon.

[eido]

Cyberian baket Hindi mo patayin yung Eco?