2012 Kia Rio

[timo07]

He is the resident troll. No one takes him seriously.

I see... Thanks sir.

[cyberian]

Got a red hatchback today. Drove the same road and traffic condition for 54 kms. that of the honda Jazz 1.3 which gave a 9.8L/100km or 10.2km/L (trip computer). This Rio is giving me 15.4L/100km or 6.5km/L (trip computer). Same route on a starex 2.5 turbo diesel automatic is around 5.5km/L and its a diesel.

Feed backs on 1st drive (impressions):

Positive - Looks, good acceleration, easy to maneuver both parking and on traffic, handling and ride, nice dash layout and lighting, love the wheel, music player can copy up to 760MB of mp3 music from your porta flash drive or porta mp3 player plugged via USB, decent sound after tweaking the Low, mid, high settings, and loads of features (push start- awesome!) and accessories.

Negative - uncomfortable seat (my back aches with lack of lumbar support) thin foam padding but nice head rest, seemingly lack of power during ascending with 3 persons on board, front suspension noise on rough road (expected on 17" 45 series but the Chevy Orlando handles rough road well with no noticeable suspension noise), lack of road feel= less fun to drive but just a bit, only 5k kms between oil change, and if I say so myself, the "taxi" stigma attached especially if you're looking at the front. Doesn't bother me much though, just a thought.

I understand it's new and needs break-in. I'll post update from time to time soon.

[jut703]

That's odd, you should be getting roughly 9 km/L in city driving with your Rio, since that's what 1.4L Accent/Rio 4-door sedan owners get, and weight-wise, the hatchback is even lighter.

Maybe you really just have to break it in first. Usually though, post-break in FC improves only by about 1-1.5 km/L, but try and see if your FC improves drastically.

[timo07]

Got a red hatchback today. Drove the same road and traffic condition for 54 kms. that of the honda Jazz 1.3 which gave a 9.8L/100km or 10.2km/L (trip computer). This Rio is giving me 15.4L/100km or 6.5km/L (trip computer). Same route on a starex 2.5 turbo diesel automatic is around 5.5km/L and its a diesel.

Feed backs on 1st drive (impressions):

Positive - Looks, good acceleration, easy to maneuver both parking and on traffic, handling and ride, nice dash layout and lighting, love the wheel, music player can copy up to 760MB of mp3 music from your porta flash drive or porta mp3 player plugged via USB, decent sound after tweaking the Low, mid, high settings, and loads of features (push start- awesome!) and accessories.

Negative - uncomfortable seat (my back aches with lack of lumbar support) thin foam padding but nice head rest, seemingly lack of power during ascending with 3 persons on board, front suspension noise on rough road (expected on 17" 45 series but the Chevy Orlando handles rough road well with no noticeable suspension noise), lack of road feel= less fun to drive but just a bit, only 5k kms between oil change, and if I say so myself, the "taxi" stigma attached especially if you're looking at the front. Doesn't bother me much though, just a thought.

I understand it's new and needs break-in. I'll post update from time to time soon.

The oil change interval on the previous model is actually 7.5K km. You can probably extend this to 10K km using Synthetic oil. I've seen a lot of the new models and to me, they look very good when compared to the 2010 "taxi" model.

[cyberian]

Driven yesterday, a sunday with no traffic for 30 kms within the city of cagayan de oro with light to no traffic and only stop on traffic lights and slow down on turns and intersections and the fc trip meter = 13.8L/100km. I was hoping I'll get 10 but maybe after break-in it's possible.

[cyberian]

The oil change interval on the previous model is actually 7.5K km. You can probably extend this to 10K km using Synthetic oil. I've seen a lot of the new models and to me, they look very good when compared to the 2010 "taxi" model.

Kia dealership says it's every 5000 km between maintenance but on kia's Warranty & maintenance manual, page 7 states 7,500 interval for gasoline. I'll refer this to kia this afternoon for clarification.

[timo07]

Kia dealership says it's every 5000 km between maintenance but on kia's Warranty & maintenance manual, page 7 states 7,500 interval for gasoline. I'll refer this to kia this afternoon for clarification.

I was asking my SA in Kia Pasig (he's now in Kia Metro East) to change the oil at 5K but he suggested to just follow what the manual specifies.

[cyberian]

I solved the front suspension noise yesterday with a quick check on the tire pressure. Just as I suspected, the tires were overinflated by almost twice its recommended pressure. The fronts were inflated to 57 psi, beyond the Continental tire's maximum limit of 51! The rear were inflated to 52 psi! No wonder the car rides like a horse cart since Friday's delivery! I brought it down to 35 psi cold (front & rear), higher by 3 psi on the recommended factory tire settings found on the door sill (sticker on driver's side) for a 17" 45 series tires with 5 passengers. This after checking the sidewall is a bit rounded on the ground contact area at 32 psi bare, no load. How the local Kia dealership failed to see this abnormal tire pressure during their SOP quality control on the unit prior to releasing is beyond me.

New Feedback:
- The ride improvement after tire pressure correction is night and day. Still thirsty though but I just learned that it sipped fuel like there's no tomorrow during stop and idle. City leisure drive on a straight run at between 40-60 kms/hr on pure A/T registers an average of 9.8-10.2L/100km (Instant fuel consumption gauge on the trip computer). It deteriorate fast if you come into stop during traffic or waiting for the traffic light, affecting greatly the average fuel consumption. Diesel engines don't consume much on idle, at least to my observation with both the Starex and Pajero.
- The head unit copies mp3 files from the Porta mp3 player and from plugged in USB quickly, in just a few seconds but it appears it wont copy folders and the songs you downloaded to the head unit were all lump up together. The sound of the speakers are a bit bright and lack both mid and lower bass. Sound stage is good but detail and separation definitely needs improvement.
- The front fog lights are both projector type and compliments well the low beam projector and the DRL. Cool!
- Rear strip LED park lens and bright LED brake lights looked similar to concept cars. Cool!

[reuelc]

Meron ba talaga version 2 na lumabas na kia rio hatchback without led lights?

according to one SA in accropolis meron daw 800k na hatch without led lights but with leather seats.

ang drl / led lights ba is really worth 38k? what is your take on Php838 and 800 version?



please help. planning to reserve soon. thanks.

[reuelc]

Meron ba talaga version 2 na lumabas na kia rio hatchback without led lights?

according to one SA in accropolis meron daw 800k na hatch without led lights but with leather seats.

ang drl / led lights ba is really worth 38k? what is your take on Php838 and 800 version?



please help. planning to reserve soon. thanks.

[miLes]

I solved the front suspension noise yesterday with a quick check on the tire pressure. Just as I suspected, the tires were overinflated by almost twice its recommended pressure. The fronts were inflated to 57 psi, beyond the Continental tire's maximum limit of 51! The rear were inflated to 52 psi! No wonder the car rides like a horse cart since Friday's delivery! I brought it down to 35 psi cold (front & rear), higher by 3 psi on the recommended factory tire settings found on the door sill (sticker on driver's side) for a 17" 45 series tires with 5 passengers. This after checking the sidewall is a bit rounded on the ground contact area at 32 psi bare, no load. How the local Kia dealership failed to see this abnormal tire pressure during their SOP quality control on the unit prior to releasing is beyond me.

New Feedback:
- The ride improvement after tire pressure correction is night and day. Still thirsty though but I just learned that it sipped fuel like there's no tomorrow during stop and idle. City leisure drive on a straight run at between 40-60 kms/hr on pure A/T registers an average of 9.8-10.2L/100km (Instant fuel consumption gauge on the trip computer). It deteriorate fast if you come into stop during traffic or waiting for the traffic light, affecting greatly the average fuel consumption. Diesel engines don't consume much on idle, at least to my observation with both the Starex and Pajero.
- The head unit copies mp3 files from the Porta mp3 player and from plugged in USB quickly, in just a few seconds but it appears it wont copy folders and the songs you downloaded to the head unit were all lump up together. The sound of the speakers are a bit bright and lack both mid and lower bass. Sound stage is good but detail and separation definitely needs improvement.
- The front fog lights are both projector type and compliments well the low beam projector and the DRL. Cool!
- Rear strip LED park lens and bright LED brake lights looked similar to concept cars. Cool!

57 psi?! that's why everytime i take a new car out of the dealer, diretso pagas and check tire pressure agad...and palit busina hehe. fuel consumption seems bad for a 1.4L car, parang we have the same consumption on my sportage ive noticed also the same for the sportage, the fuel consumption goes up fast during idle

[spencersy]

Can I ask owners of Kia Rio Hatchback if it has speed sensing auto door lock? thanks

[dashgarcia]

Nope, no speed sensing auto door lock.

[cyberian]

Meron ba talaga version 2 na lumabas na kia rio hatchback without led lights?

according to one SA in accropolis meron daw 800k na hatch without led lights but with leather seats.

ang drl / led lights ba is really worth 38k? what is your take on Php838 and 800 version?



please help. planning to reserve soon. thanks.

Yep, I saw one and the differences:
- interior is 2-tone (black over brown inserts and dash, same light gray on top)
- Headlight not projector type combo, just plain big halogen on the center and no front DRL
- None LED on the rear.
- Yes, it has leather seats but only half. It's a cloth-leather combo and I like it

Kia salesman said the front lights set with the projector plus the rear LED alone costs P100,000.00 but I checked eBay and it's around $1,200 for both. Add shipping, insurance and taxes of course and it will add up way higher than that.

The thing with the rear LED is it's unique and looks the ones found on concept vehicles. You can't find the same standard equipped on most compacts and sub-compacts cars in our Country except those from Europe I guess.

[pop3corn]

ano kaya meron kaya eto knocking problem. ito kasi ang wine-weight ko bilhin eh, yun hatch.

[spencersy]

Nope, no speed sensing auto door lock.

thanks for your reply do you think it can be activated? My 2011 kia sportage has this option and i just have it activated and it work
kia pasay just programmed it for free.

[dashgarcia]

thanks for your reply do you think it can be activated? My 2011 kia sportage has this option and i just have it activated and it work
kia pasay just programmed it for free.

Don't know bro. I asked kia-ortigas, hindi daw puede (ang alam nila). Better siguro if we ask winterpine.

[reuelc]

so front lights palang is worth over 38k which means sulit na talaga yung 838 with LED and dual airbag pa compared with 800 with leather seats. I heard the other one has only one airbag. not to mention the LED lights on the rear, most likely it cost an arm and leg as well.

thank you for the input.

[cyberian]

ano kaya meron kaya eto knocking problem. ito kasi ang wine-weight ko bilhin eh, yun hatch.

I didn't hear any of the "knocking sound" problem on my Hatch so far. "knocking sound" probably coming from the camshaft area where the valves are located and the problem probably related to the combustion process, therefore quality of gasoline may come into play. I learned that the sound is similar to a manual transmission when you try not to downshift or just delay to downshift when slowing down and keeps on stepping the gas instead kaya the valves make a lot of "timing" noises.

I am curious if the problem happens only on a manual transmission and not present on an A/T because on the A/T, the computer automatically downshifts the right gear for you if you won't downshift it yourself (on manual or sport mode) and thereby preventing the problem I cited above on delayed or not downshifting. Kaya on most pure A/T vehicles, the engine won't be over or under rpm while on a drive.

[beckham07]

1.4 ex mt. Nagknock yung sakn nung kinargahan ng nanghiram ng gasolina from cleanfuel gas stn. Nung maubos kinargahan ng vpower wala na kagad ang knock. Balik unleaded na ako ng shell pero after ng knock parang naglow power. Pagmabilis ang andar tapos nagslow down hirap umarangkada d makaovertake. Sabe ng casa wala daw low power na lumabas sa computer. So advice is magtry muna mag 95 octane. Yan daw recommend nila sa mt 1.4. 95 octane is premium ata pero hindi pa vpowe sa shell? Observe muna ako 1 week pagkarga ng 95.