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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    All the new engines are becoming smaller and more powerful than ever. Like the All new ford focus from 2.0 to 1.5 engine. Turbocharging will be the key to having more power and economy.
    This trend is slowly becoming the way of the future for most carmakers. I mean, who would not want both better performance and fuel economy? It is still considered to be in the early stages however, so expect a lot of issues to arise.

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    I appreciate Ford's efforts for being one of the pioneers to bring such engine technology to the mass market. But with all the issues they are experiencing, I would stay away from them until they have developed a good reputation in terms of reliability. Think about it: What is the point of all the benefits if the engine cannot stay problem-free for long? Nonetheless, I am sure they will eventually fix up these issues in the future.

    For those who want to play it safe and avoid potential issues, they would stick to the 4JJ1 and 4JK1. Although I really hope that this new 1.9 Ddi will end up being successful as well. We will surely keep track of it as we wait for its arrival on Philippine shores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    Isuzu Motorsports used a retuned 4JJ1 producing 242 horses and 589 Nm in the Dakar Rally. Sobrang conservative lang siguro ng tuning ng commercial version.

    Anyway, sana wala naman problems dito since they claim na improved durability, less maintenance and lower fuel consumption pa. Not to mention lowest emissions in class pa. Pag may nagcomment pa ng mausok ewan ko na lang.
    Sabi nga yung 4JJ1 engine ay gamit sa fastest pickup of its class (D-Max) when tuned for drag racing. Not sure bakit napaka conservative ang tuning..

    Also note yung ito rin ang gamit sa ELF Dump Trucks.. imagine gaano ka stress free yung 4JJ1 pag nilagay sa lighter D-Max.

    Siraulo na lang ang magsabi ng underpowered pa yun.. hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    Isuzu Motorsports used a retuned 4JJ1 producing 242 horses and 589 Nm in the Dakar Rally. Sobrang conservative lang siguro ng tuning ng commercial version.

    Anyway, sana wala naman problems dito since they claim na improved durability, less maintenance and lower fuel consumption pa. Not to mention lowest emissions in class pa. Pag may nagcomment pa ng mausok ewan ko na lang.
    Sabi nga yung 4JJ1 engine ay gamit sa fastest pickup of its class (D-Max) when tuned for drag racing. Not sure bakit napaka conservative ang tuning..

    Also note yung ito rin ang gamit sa ELF Dump Trucks.. imagine gaano ka stress free yung 4JJ1 pag nilagay sa lighter D-Max.

    Siraulo na lang ang magsabi ng underpowered pa yun.. hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika Cacayuan View Post
    Sabi nga yung 4JJ1 engine ay gamit sa fastest pickup of its class (D-Max) when tuned for drag racing. Not sure bakit napaka conservative ang tuning..

    Also note yung ito rin ang gamit sa ELF Dump Trucks.. imagine gaano ka stress free yung 4JJ1 pag nilagay sa lighter D-Max.

    Siraulo na lang ang magsabi ng underpowered pa yun.. hahaha.
    Kasi gusto ni isuzu na 500,000kms eh guaranteed na no need overhaul nang makina. Basta sundin lang proper change oil interval and use the proper diesel engine oil ha. B10 rated kasi makinang yan sa nabasa ko before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Kasi gusto ni isuzu na 500,000kms eh guaranteed na no need overhaul nang makina. Basta sundin lang proper change oil interval and use the proper diesel engine oil ha. B10 rated kasi makinang yan sa nabasa ko before.

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    Cummins 2.8 engine in the china made foton pickup is also a b10 engine. It seems that they set the benchmark for others to follow

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    Cummins diesel engine of foton pickup is china made. There is a foton Cummins joint venture factory in china. The engines are designed in the united States but manufactured in china. Read and research before you use bad words in this forum. Nakakahiya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    Cummins diesel engine of foton pickup is china made. There is a foton Cummins joint venture factory in china. The engines are designed in the united States but manufactured in china. Read and research before you use bad words in this forum. Nakakahiya...
    So why associate it with China? You don't have a point then. Make sure you have a point before putting dirt on a brand..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    Cummins diesel engine of foton pickup is china made. There is a foton Cummins joint venture factory in china. The engines are designed in the united States but manufactured in china. Read and research before you use bad words in this forum. Nakakahiya...
    Hahah biglang kaliwa. You don't have a point then associating B10 with China?

    (Bad Words??? Hahah look who's talking.. LOL)

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    B10 rating of 500,000kms is a very good selling point. I wonder if there would be 4JJ1s that can do so here without the injectors or turbo going kaput or SCV replacements.

    I still don't understand the 163ps rating though. Did they deliberately use an inferior engine for the Philippine market? Or is it merely a blunder by the marketing department?

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    FYI miss Erika...

    Do your research first, china made foton Cummins 2.8 isf engines are the first to be market as b10 engines for pickups here in pinas. Isuzu just follow through after a few years. But Mitsubishi is selling their mivec diesels this December. These mivec diesels are the best in terms of FC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    FYI miss Erika...

    Do your research first, china made foton Cummins 2.8 isf engines are the first to be market as b10 engines for pickups here in pinas. Isuzu just follow through after a few years. But Mitsubishi is selling their mivec diesels this December. These mivec diesels are the best in terms of FC.
    All in all Cummins is NOT CHINA. Mivec is not B10. So what's your point? (I'm betting.. NO POINT AT ALL... LOL..)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    FYI miss Erika...

    Do your research first, china made foton Cummins 2.8 isf engines are the first to be market as b10 engines for pickups here in pinas. Isuzu just follow through after a few years. But Mitsubishi is selling their mivec diesels this December. These mivec diesels are the best in terms of FC.
    Ha? Kelan lang naman nilabas ang Cummins ISF 2.8 ah, matagal nang B10 rating yung 4JJ1 sa Australia. IPC doesn't mention B ratings on its advertisements.

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    it's only now ipc claimed their new 3.0 engine to be b10. Hindi b10 yung previous 3.0 engine. Despite all, isuzu 3.0 engine still fall short of the 3yr old foton engine. The mivec diesels will kick isuzu in terms of durability and economy. More power, more torque. Still a long way to catch up. Not to mention the old decade ride quality of Isuzu. That's why, we just left ours to our driver to use. The noise and ride quality is really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    it's only now ipc claimed their new 3.0 engine to be b10. Hindi b10 yung previous 3.0 engine. Despite all, isuzu 3.0 engine still fall short of the 3yr old foton engine. The mivec diesels will kick isuzu in terms of durability and economy. More power, more torque. Still a long way to catch up. Not to mention the old decade ride quality of Isuzu. That's why, we just left ours to our driver to use. The noise and ride quality is really bad.
    Paki quote naman. Ilang years na ginagamit yung 4JJ1-TCX sa Australia from D-Max to N series. Ang inconsistent naman ng sinasabi mo.

    Btw, the new 1.9 Ddi has the lowest fuel consumption and emissions in class. Ano naman kinalaman ng 4N15 dito... Pinapaikot mo lang. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    it's only now ipc claimed their new 3.0 engine to be b10. Hindi b10 yung previous 3.0 engine. Despite all, isuzu 3.0 engine still fall short of the 3yr old foton engine. The mivec diesels will kick isuzu in terms of durability and economy. More power, more torque. Still a long way to catch up. Not to mention the old decade ride quality of Isuzu. That's why, we just left ours to our driver to use. The noise and ride quality is really bad.
    owwss sige post mo nga pic mo kasama ng isuzu mo na pinapagamit na lang sa driver nyo kung wala ka namang pruweba eh mas magandang tumahimik ka na lang.

    dami mong alam para kang bigasan pag makalampag walang kalaman-laman.

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    Meron nga mga bagong engines ang isuzu. Ayaw nila dalhin dito sa pinas. That's my point. Mga lumang engines lang for pinas. Kung pagkain pa eto, near expiry na ang 4jj1-tcx.

    What's the use of comparing an engine sold in Australia. Nasa pinas tayo. We are the most polluted city, yet we have the oldest engines sold as bnew. Lalo na yung bnew 4ja1 ng crosswind 2015 model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinworld View Post
    Meron nga mga bagong engines ang isuzu. Ayaw nila dalhin dito sa pinas. That's my point. Mga lumang engines lang for pinas. Kung pagkain pa eto, near expiry na ang 4jj1-tcx.

    What's the use of comparing an engine sold in Australia. Nasa pinas tayo. We are the most polluted city, yet we have the oldest engines sold as bnew. Lalo na yung bnew 4ja1 ng crosswind 2015 model.
    Yun naman pala eh, why keep on mentioning/comparing engines not YET sold here? IPC doesn't use B ratings on advertisements. Near expiry ang TCX? Says who? E kakaupdate lang ulit para maging Euro VI compliant. Baka ikaw ang hindi nag reresearch?

    You keep ranting against Isuzu dito sa D-Max thread. Paulit ulit na lang.

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    anybody here tried blanking the EGR DIY, dmax 3.0 2010 model? baka pwede po ninyo mai share po dito. im planning to do it. sana may guide pictures po. btw, somebody always refer the 4ja1 as lumang engine. what's wrong with that? my wife has been using crosswind since 2001, xto model. presently, she is driving an XUV. 4ja1 is a bulletproof engine, very durable and fuel efficient. lumang makina has the best advantages for a lady driver, any mechanic can fix a crosswind and the parts are always available at affordable cost. mausok ba kamo? been using 2t for more than 10 years already on our crosswinds and with regular change oil, you can never see smoke coming out from its tail pipe.

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    After more than 130k kms, napalitan na ang ball joints, tie rod bar, suspension bushing ng Dmax ko.

    About 2 months ago, all my shocks were replaced. Then one evening, when I was parking it, I heard it squeaking. I thought that it can't be those shocks since they are still new. Brought it to the dealership for check up. Then un ang nakita. Total damage was more than 37k pesos.

    Ang napansin ko lang na recuring problem ng Dmax ko ay ung tensioner getting loose and causing the engine to producing a whining, buzzing sound. I have posted it here before kung paanon ung sound na un. The good thing is, never nagka aberya ang truck even if that sound is audible. Nakakairita nga lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    After more than 130k kms, napalitan na ang ball joints, tie rod bar, suspension bushing ng Dmax ko.

    About 2 months ago, all my shocks were replaced. Then one evening, when I was parking it, I heard it squeaking. I thought that it can't be those shocks since they are still new. Brought it to the dealership for check up. Then un ang nakita. Total damage was more than 37k pesos.

    Ang napansin ko lang na recuring problem ng Dmax ko ay ung tensioner getting loose and causing the engine to producing a whining, buzzing sound. I have posted it here before kung paanon ung sound na un. The good thing is, never nagka aberya ang truck even if that sound is audible. Nakakairita nga lang.
    *130k kms. You already replaced Mga pang ilalim mo sir? Isn't it premature?

    Yung crosswind Ng friend ko.. 250k plus kms. Wala pang pinalitan sa pang ilalim.. Maliban sa shocks... Pang byahe pa yun..

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