Isuzu Dmax Owners [continued]

[Benzmizer]

Hi sir, I changed my D-Max's tires to 265/70/R16 (Bridgestone Dueler H/T) and there's no change in FC and ride comfort and of course it looks better than stock (taller and with the white text on the sidewalls).

+1 to this observation. Note that the aforementioned tire size is the same as used for D-Max Boondock Editions.

[teekoy]

Many thanks for the inputs sirs Benzmizer, domski and jarhead

[javee]

Need your inputs mga ka-dmax

I'll be a dmax owner soon and i'm planning to change the stock tires ano kya mas okay sa 275/75/R16, 275/70/R16 and 265/70/R16 in terms of:

1. Ride comfort
2. Fuel efficiency

Sorry newbie question mga sir first time magka-pick up e

Kung kyo papiliin ano choice nyo?

Thanks.

bro,ok na ung 265/70R16.. ganun ginawa ko sa dmax ko e. yokohama geolandar at-s goma ko, ung gamit nila sa boondock. hehe lapit na nga ako uli magpalit ng goma e, im planning na 285 ung lapad sa likod but 265 pdin sa harap. para lang mas malapad tignan ung sa likod. hehe maiba lang.. hirap lang ata maghanap ng ganun size ng goma.hehe

[Benzmizer]

bro,ok na ung 265/70R16.. ganun ginawa ko sa dmax ko e. yokohama geolandar at-s goma ko, ung gamit nila sa boondock. hehe lapit na nga ako uli magpalit ng goma e, im planning na 285 ung lapad sa likod but 265 pdin sa harap. para lang mas malapad tignan ung sa likod. hehe maiba lang.. hirap lang ata maghanap ng ganun size ng goma.hehe

You be careful thou coz the fact na di staggered ang rim size mo, the front and rear would not only look different but you must confirm if the stock rear rim can accomodate a 285 width tire.

In addition, there is a setback of having staggered tire sizes (front to rear) for you cannot rotate the tires due to its size difference.

[Ry_Tower]

You be careful thou coz the fact na di staggered ang rim size mo, the front and rear would not only look different but you must confirm if the stock rear rim can accomodate a 285 width tire.

In addition, there is a setback of having staggered tire sizes (front to rear) for you cannot rotate the tires due to its size difference.

Would it also affect cornering due to the fact that the dmax is not designed like a sports car where the rear tires are usually a bit taller and definitely wider?

[javee]

You be careful thou coz the fact na di staggered ang rim size mo, the front and rear would not only look different but you must confirm if the stock rear rim can accomodate a 285 width tire.

In addition, there is a setback of having staggered tire sizes (front to rear) for you cannot rotate the tires due to its size difference.

yup sir benz..papatignan ko pa if kaya ng size 285 ung stock rims. sana pwede, gusto ko lang talaga mas magmukhang malaki or malapad ung likod. i already considered na ung risk na hindi na pwede sa rotation from rear to front.

[Ry_Tower]

yup sir benz..papatignan ko pa if kaya ng size 285 ung stock rims. sana pwede, gusto ko lang talaga mas magmukhang malaki or malapad ung likod. i already considered na ung risk na hindi na pwede sa rotation from rear to front.

Sa internet boss may tire size calculator. dapat not more than 3% yung increase or decrease mo from the stock or manufacturer designed tires. Nakalimutan ko lang site eh. Might want to research a bit though.

[teekoy]

Here's the site for tire size calculator.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

[javee]

Sa internet boss may tire size calculator. dapat not more than 3% yung increase or decrease mo from the stock or manufacturer designed tires. Nakalimutan ko lang site eh. Might want to research a bit though.

ah oo lam ko about dun sa tire calculator.. i might consider that one too. if talagang d pwede e i'll have to change my rims din if ever.

[teekoy]

bro,ok na ung 265/70R16.. ganun ginawa ko sa dmax ko e. yokohama geolandar at-s goma ko, ung gamit nila sa boondock. hehe lapit na nga ako uli magpalit ng goma e, im planning na 285 ung lapad sa likod but 265 pdin sa harap. para lang mas malapad tignan ung sa likod. hehe maiba lang.. hirap lang ata maghanap ng ganun size ng goma.hehe

Thanks for the suggestion, sir!

[teekoy]

Mga Bros. - need your inputs once again..

I'm was already bent on getting the 4x2 LS A/T until I saw the Boondock sa showroom yesterday!

Now i'm confused! Don't know what to get between the 4x2 LS A/T and the 4x4 Boondock II M/T as I really like the look of the Boondock.

On paper, they seem to have the same specs expect for the drivetrain. Price difference is almost 200k though.

I guess my question now is... which one is better transmission for a pick-up in terms of performance or efficiency? Is the Boondock worth the extra buck?

TIA

[Benzmizer]

Mga Bros. - need your inputs once again..

I'm was already bent on getting the 4x2 LS A/T until I saw the Boondock sa showroom yesterday!

Now i'm confused! Don't know what to get between the 4x2 LS A/T and the 4x4 Boondock II M/T as I really like the look of the Boondock.

On paper, they seem to have the same specs expect for the drivetrain. Price difference is almost 200k though.

I guess my question now is... which one is better transmission for a pick-up in terms of performance or efficiency? Is the Boondock worth the extra buck?

TIA

In terms of performance (not accessories), the Boondock is the same as the regular LS variant only that the Boondock is a 4x4 and uses 265/70R16 tires (that results to a 1" height difference between both).

Unless you really need a 4x4, I would suggest you just get the 4x2 LS A/T and replace the tires with the same tire specs as the Boondock. The 1" difference in height will be compensated.

Oh, the close to 200k price difference is mainly due to the 4x4 drivetrain that is standard for Boondock variants.

That should clear the cobwebs off your head.

[hinDMaxsiado]

Mga Bros. - need your inputs once again..

I'm was already bent on getting the 4x2 LS A/T until I saw the Boondock sa showroom yesterday!

Now i'm confused! Don't know what to get between the 4x2 LS A/T and the 4x4 Boondock II M/T as I really like the look of the Boondock.

On paper, they seem to have the same specs expect for the drivetrain. Price difference is almost 200k though.

I guess my question now is... which one is better transmission for a pick-up in terms of performance or efficiency? Is the Boondock worth the extra buck?

TIA

Hold and save your money chief for the time being until August or September 2011.... Word has it that the iTEQ VGS Turbo engine is coming as a compliment to the old and current Ddi-iTEQ engine

The 2004 Ddi-iTEQ (4JJ1-TC standard) in our current DMax is rated at 146 ps DIN and 294 Nm torque from 1400 rpm to 3400 rpm. The 2006 iTEQ VGS Turbo engine (4JJ1-TCX) produces 164 ps DIN and 360 Nm from 1800 rpm to 2800 rpm. This VGS Turbo engine is the one plugged to the Thai-version DMax and MU-7 (Alterra of the Thais).

The DMax iTEQ VGS Turbo is Europe's best offroad-performing midsize pickup for 2008, 2009 and 2010. It is also Australia's best 4x4 UTE (utility pickup) for 2009 and 2010.

Make that PhP1.35 M you got there chief worthwhile by not getting the current-old Bondoock.

This is how the DMax with iTEQ VGS Turbo engine looks like (Euro-model).... Take note of that "hood scoop"











Else, if you really wanna be quite radically different chief, wait for the all-new 2012 5-cylinder 3.2-litre Ford Ranger Wildtrak (200 ps and 470 Nm torque)

Goodluck on your choices!

[teekoy]

In terms of performance (not accessories), the Boondock is the same as the regular LS variant only that the Boondock is a 4x4 and uses 265/70R16 tires (that results to a 1" height difference between both).

Unless you really need a 4x4, I would suggest you just get the 4x2 LS A/T and replace the tires with the same tire specs as the Boondock. The 1" difference in height will be compensated.

Oh, the close to 200k price difference is mainly due to the 4x4 drivetrain that is standard for Boondock variants.

That should clear the cobwebs off your head.

As always, thanks for the quick response sir Benzmizer.

Laki pala price difference ng 4x4 drivetrain against 4x2. Kasi if you'll break down the difference in accessories ito lang e..

For boondock (vs LS):

- steptube (vs molded plastic-aluminium for LS)
- equipped w/ limited slip differential
- chrome finish wheel (silver for LS)
- equipped w/ head lamp aim
- ABS/EBD with G sensor (don't know what this is?? LS version w/o G sensor)
- w/ hood garnish
- bigger tires 265/70-R16 (LS has 245/70-R16)
- Leather interior package

more or less difference in cost of the above would probably be somewhere in the 60-75k lang.. (conservative estimate)

hmmm...

[teekoy]

Hold and save your money chief for the time being until August or September 2011.... Word has it that the iTEQ VGS Turbo engine is coming as a compliment to the old and current Ddi-iTEQ engine

This is how the DMax with iTEQ VGS Turbo engine looks like [/B](Euro-model).... Take note of that "hood scoop"



Goodluck on your choices!

Whoooa! Now you confused me even more!

Could this be true?? If it is I'll definitely wait for it! Kakapag-laway!!

Thanks for the heads up sir..

[hinDMaxsiado]

Whoooa! Now you confused me even more!

Could this be true?? If it is I'll definitely wait for it! Kakapag-laway!!

Thanks for the heads up sir..

IT SHOULD BE TRUE!
....AND Isuzu Philippines got no choice but to finally offer it here in Philippines (we've been waiting for this model since they were offered in Europe in 2007). In fact, i had the opportunity to drive these DMax's when i was assigned in Spain from 2008 to early 2010 ---- They are way better than our Ddi-iTEQ although they have got the same 3-litre displacement.

My Thai friend just informed me 3 days ago that there is now a new Isuzu DMax "RT-50" for 2012. The body design is way differentiated from our current DMax, more like a Hilux if you see it. It was road tested in Chonburi, Thailand and the initial horsepower figure for this 4-cylinder 3-litre pickup is above 180'ish. The engine from the RT-50 will also be fitted to the Isuzu MU-7 (the Alterra of the Thais). Moreover, a VGT-equipped 2.5-litre DMax will also be offered in Thailand together with the flagship Isuzu RT-50.

Now, if Isuzu Philippines won't still offer "the now what seems to be older" DMax iTEQ VGS Turbo, by 2012, we Filipinos are already 2nd generations behind of what Isuzu is offering in other countries

[tc327]

IT SHOULD BE TRUE!
....AND Isuzu Philippines got no choice but to finally offer it here in Philippines (we've been waiting for this model since they were offered in Europe in 2007). In fact, i had the opportunity to drive these DMax's when i was assigned in Spain from 2008 to early 2010 ---- They are way better than our Ddi-iTEQ although they have got the same 3-litre displacement.

My Thai friend just informed me 3 days ago that there is now a new Isuzu DMax "RT-50" for 2012. The body design is way differentiated from our current DMax, more like a Hilux if you see it. It was road tested in Chonburi, Thailand and the initial horsepower figure for this 4-cylinder 3-litre pickup is above 180'ish. The engine from the RT-50 will also be fitted to the Isuzu MU-7 (the Alterra of the Thais). Moreover, a VGT-equipped 2.5-litre DMax will also be offered in Thailand together with the flagship Isuzu RT-50.

Now, if Isuzu Philippines won't still offer "the now what seems to be older" DMax iTEQ VGS Turbo, by 2012, we Filipinos are already 2nd generations behind of what Isuzu is offering in other countries

wow that was really nice truck was wondering also why we are deprive from what they are offering from other countries why why tsk tsk

[hinDMaxsiado]

wow that was really nice truck was wondering also why we are deprive from what they are offering from other countries why why tsk tsk

The real reason chief (i don't know if this pain us Pinoy Isuzu buyers) is that we southeast Asians, with the exemption of the Thais, are categorised by Isuzu Japan as Class "C" consumers. Class "A" are the Euros, Aussies, Kiwis etc and Class "B" are the Thais, where the biggest Isuzu assembly plant outside of Japan is located. In fact, those Isuzu's that you see in Australia and New Zealand are exported from Thailand.

This was even explained to me by one Isuzu agent when i asked him why until now (2011) we haven't got yet the iTEQ VGS Turbo engine inspite that it's been developed in 2006 and offered into other DMax's.... i also asked him if Isuzu has plans to make the year 1997 Crosswind engine to a CRDi one, and he said "NO".... tsk tsk tsk is what i could only think of.... Anyway, sa Pinas at Indonesia lang naman sikat ang Crosswind, elsewhere hindi na. For me, it's one of the most overrated AUV/ SUV out there, especially the Sportivo costing more than the 3-litre DMax LS 4x2 manual-tranny.... Certainly, i wouldn't pay PhP1.1 M for a 1997 engine....

Our current Philippine-DMax engine looks like this (yes, that's one of our DMax's and partially you also see the Crosswind XT beside) ---- so basically, we do come from a loyal Isuzu background haha!




While the "better" iTEQ VGS Turbo engine looks like this (the intercooler is on top that's why the "other" DMax is fitted with a "hood scoop")








Toyota, Ford/ Mazda, Mitsubishi and Nissan, on the other hand, are not like Isuzu when it comes to consumers ---- The standard diesel pickups that you see offered by them here in the Philippines are the same ones you'd see overseas, even in Europe and Australia. AND ALL OF THEM are equipped with variable-geometry turbo (VGT)....
....It's really a shame on Isuzu Philippines, quite frankly, offering us this year 2004 Ddi-iTEQ engine onto the DMax and the pickup almost has the same price as its competitors :boo:

[Benzmizer]

wow that was really nice truck was wondering also why we are deprive from what they are offering from other countries why why tsk tsk

Real reason why? Coz the "Super Commonrail" aka VGS engine is Euro 4. Bring it here and it'll be spending more time sa CASA than you using it.

[tc327]

Real reason why? Coz the "Super Commonrail" aka VGS engine is Euro 4. Bring it here and it'll be spending more time sa CASA than you using it.

hmmmmm i see thanks a little bit enlighten