Isuzu Dmax Owners [continued]

[joabs]

Boy, i wish i was working for Isuzu

YUP, and joabs experience, as well as your "infant wisedom", take precedence over other people's experiences and preference, rendering those wanting the iTEQ VGS Turbo less-credible

I'm NOT only bragging about my seat time on the 4JJ1-TCX, "I'M SAYING IT" my napaka-talinong buddy

*hinDMaxsiado - joabs is not lecturing, just stating his own experience. As you said, "to each his own" so if joabs is happy with the performance of the current LS, then no need to brag about your seat time or how strong the 4JJ1 -TCX is. Ahente ka ba ng new 4JJ1-TCX? Mamya matawag kang fangay niyan.

* Ry_Tower: Thanks for the defense. It seems to me that hinDMaxiado misunderstood what it really meant for. With due respect to his stature as a TRYING HARD selling his idea, i found nothing offensive on my previous post.
It is my desire not to cross paths with you guys when sharing my opinion in this forum but i apologized to some of you when my words differ from your opinion. People who posted here need not to lecture but rather shared his experiences though we can not discount that there are few who has a dodgy thinking. bato bato sa langit ang matamaan hwag lang magagalit...har har har!!!!

[Surabaya]

I have a 2004 LS 4X2. And I love it. It has served me well. But Isuzu Philippines is screwing the Philippine market. They are giving us old technology, dumping unsold units/engines in our market. Give me a break. They are the masters of diesel technology and they can't tune their VGS to the quality of diesel fuel here? Let's see -- Ford, Toyota, and Mitsubishi can do it. On the higher end, BMW, VOLVO, RANGE ROVER, JEEP and MERCEDES BENZ can do it. Somebody should file a dumping case against Isuzu.

[Benzmizer]

I have a 2004 LS 4X2. And I love it. It has served me well. But Isuzu Philippines is screwing the Philippine market. They are giving us old technology, dumping unsold units/engines in our market. Give me a break. They are the masters of diesel technology and they can't tune their VGS to the quality of diesel fuel here? Let's see -- Ford, Toyota, and Mitsubishi can do it. On the higher end, BMW, VOLVO, RANGE ROVER, JEEP and MERCEDES BENZ can do it. Somebody should file a dumping case against Isuzu.

That's a GREAT idea! Why didn't I think of that? Why don't you try? :out:

As you have perfectly put it, there are other brands that are equip with "more superior" and "technologically-advanced" engines than ISUZU, why not sell your 2004 D-Max and get those instead? It's a free world. :cheer2:

[Surabaya]

Like I said, I love my DMAX. When it's done serving me, I will most likely get another DMAX, but not what Isuzu Philippines passes off as brand new. Maybe Isuzu Phil thinks we don't have internet in the Philippines, and we can't see what kind of products they offer in other countries.

[domski]

Maybe Isuzu Phils is waiting for the all-new model before they introduce the VGS technology. If you're not satisfied with current engine, just buy different brand as easy as that. Madami naman choices. No need to fight like kids, or file a case or whatsoever because of this.

[locoroco777]

That's a GREAT idea! Why didn't I think of that? Why don't you try? :out:

As you have perfectly put it, there are other brands that are equip with "more superior" and "technologically-advanced" engines than ISUZU, why not sell your 2004 D-Max and get those instead? It's a free world. :cheer2:

:hysterical::bwahaha:

[joabs]

* sir joabs - is that your dmax in the profile pic? Nice grill care to share where and how much did you get it for? TIA

Yup, thats my Dmax on my profile pic.. Dun ko nabili sa CFG car accessories store dito sa Cebu. Costs me 5.5 grand.

[Benzmizer]

As always, thanks for the quick response sir Benzmizer.

Laki pala price difference ng 4x4 drivetrain against 4x2. Kasi if you'll break down the difference in accessories ito lang e..

For boondock (vs LS):

- steptube (vs molded plastic-aluminium for LS)
- equipped w/ limited slip differential
- chrome finish wheel (silver for LS)
- equipped w/ head lamp aim
- ABS/EBD with G sensor (don't know what this is?? LS version w/o G sensor)
- w/ hood garnish
- bigger tires 265/70-R16 (LS has 245/70-R16)
- Leather interior package

more or less difference in cost of the above would probably be somewhere in the 60-75k lang.. (conservative estimate)

hmmm...

Have you made up your mind which among the current D-Max variants you'd purchase?

[teekoy]

Have you made up your mind which among the current D-Max variants you'd purchase?

Hi sir Benzmizer - i'd probably get the 4x2 LS but still can't decide between the A/T or M/T. Any suggestion?

Won't wait na dun sa VGS Turbo version engine muka malabo din naman yata talaga dumating dito this year yun.

I spoke to the GM of a certain Company who owns a number of isuzu dealerships and asked him if he has any info of a new isuzu model coming out but he said isuzu phils. is so "malihim" when it comes to that matter. All he knows is that most probably next year daw magkaron ng new release but definitely not this year. He's also not sure kung facelift lang ulit and same engine pa din.

So, i think kukuha na ko this next month kasi atat na atat nako sa dmax. Ok lang kahit dmax-siado basta dmax pa din. Papalit na lang ako pag dumating na finally yung sinasabing VGS version..

[arsen]

OT
Active rin pala si BoI T_pacq (Mr T+Pacman) dito... hahaha

[Benzmizer]

Hi sir Benzmizer - i'd probably get the 4x2 LS but still can't decide between A/T or M/T.

Can't wait na dun sa VGS Turbo version engine muka malabo din naman yta talaga dumating dito this year yun.

I spoke to the GM of a certain Company who owns a number of isuzu dealerships and asked him if he has any info of a new isuzu model coming out but he said isuzu phils. is "malihim" when it comes to that matter. All he knows is that probably next year daw malamang magkaron ng new release but definitely not this year. He's also not sure kung facelift lang ulit and same engine pa din.

So, i think kukuha na ko this next month kasi atat na atat nako sa dmax. Ok lang kahit dmax-siado basta dmax pa din. Papalit na lang ako pag dumating na finally yung sinasabing VGS version..

I would suggest an A/T. Aside from the buyer's personal preference for an M/T and limited budget, you need not have to fear issues concerning adverse compromised fuel efficiency and power (vs. an M/T). As most current D-Max A/T owners here attest, comparable ang performance to a M/T.

In addition, with the worsening traffic condition in the Metro, consider owning an A/T no longer a privilege but a benefit.

Good luck with your decision and let us know here when you have acquired one already.

[teekoy]

I would suggest an A/T. Aside from the buyer's personal preference for an M/T and limited budget, you need not have to fear issues concerning adverse compromised fuel efficiency and power (vs. an M/T). As most current D-Max A/T owners here attest, comparable ang performance to a M/T.

In addition, with the worsening traffic condition in the Metro, consider owning an A/T no longer a privilege but a benefit.

Good luck with your decision and let us know here when you have acquired one already.

Will do. Thanks sir

[teekoy]

Yup, thats my Dmax on my profile pic.. Dun ko nabili sa CFG car accessories store dito sa Cebu. Costs me 5.5 grand.

Ok thanks sir

[renzo_d10]

Hmmm. How about the Trooper 4JX1?

Ano ka ba. Tough as nails din yan. Fingernails. :hysterical:

[Starex_Gold]

Ano ka ba. Tough as nails din yan. Fingernails. :hysterical:

[Ry_Tower]

*ISUZU Forumers: My apologies for this post. Those who know me since know that I never said I was a smart alec.... an ISUZU GURU. I am just like everyone else who learn from others and pass on what I know to others in need. I never criticize one's opinion negatively and use sarcasm as a resort.... unless provoked. I've said my piece and would refrain from making a similar post in the furure. Frankly, it's a waste of my time...... besides, I should cut this already for American Idol is about to start. Good night guys!

Kala ko magagalit ka na, buti na lang may American Idol.

[hinDMaxsiado]

Will do. Thanks sir

Chief Teekoy, i hope before you take the plunge in acquiring the now "2-generations old" 3-litre DMax Ddi-iTEQ that we have here in Philippines.... (and like i said, i have these 2008 DMax (which is powered by a 2004 model 4JJ1-TC CRDi-non VGT engine, otherwise known as the Ddi-iTEQ) and the 2004 4JH1-TC "TD Intercooler").... you're basing your decision on the "cerebral" aspect of choosing a pickup and not merely on "perceptions" nor "tibok ng dibdib", or "gut feel"....

Remember September 2011 is just around the corner, where some of the new 2012 pickups from the competitors (especially the aggressive ones) will be coming here in Philippines.... when i mean the aggressive ones, i mean the General Motors and Ford Motors/ Mazda, and "arguably" let's include Nissan.

I'd like to highlight in summary what is happening now as far as the pickup war is concerned ---- just so you may have a wider perspective of choices before dishing out your hard-earned money for one, which i know, you're already leaning on the DMax Ddi-iTEQ

Just hang-in a while here please and see before you decide 120% in getting the DMax BECAUSE the pickup truck scene may change quicker than we all expect.... Take note that Ford, Chevrolet (GM) and Nissan are unlike our Isuzu Phils. when it comes to their customers....

For 2012 models, although some are already here (e.g. 2.5-litre Mitsubishi Strada "GTV" and 3-litre Toyota Hilux D4-D which hasn't seen any major changes even overseas), we're still awaiting update whether the other manufacturers will also offer their latest models here in Philippines for 2012. August to September 2011 there will already be indications from these companies what's going to be their early 2012 offers:

All 2012 diesel engine pickups:

2.8-litre GM Colorado (4-cylinder) - 175 ps, 440 Nm torque

3.2-litre Ford Ranger (5-cylinder) - 200 ps, 470 Nm torque
2.2-litre Ford Ranger (4-cylinder) - 150 ps, 375 Nm torque

2.5-litre Nissan Navara (4-cylinder) - 190 ps, 450 Nm torque
3.0-litre Nissan Navara ST-X (6-cylinder V-arrangement) - 231 ps, 550 Nm torque

3.0-litre Isuzu RT-50 (4-cylinder) - initial info more than 180 ps, torque not specified

3.0-litre Mazda BT-50 (4-cylinder) - no figures yet as far as i have read todate

2.5-litre Mitsubishi Strada (4-cylinder) - 178 ps, 350 Nm torque (in Phils. now)

3.0-litre Toyota Hilux (4-cylinder) - 163 ps, 343 Nm torque (in Phils. since)


Chief, i'm not trying to be an advocate nor emissary of any pickups, i just want to give the BEST-AVAILABLE data around before you spend your money....

Goodluck and kind regards....

[Benzmizer]

bro,ok na ung 265/70R16.. ganun ginawa ko sa dmax ko e. yokohama geolandar at-s goma ko, ung gamit nila sa boondock. hehe lapit na nga ako uli magpalit ng goma e, im planning na 285 ung lapad sa likod but 265 pdin sa harap. para lang mas malapad tignan ung sa likod. hehe maiba lang.. hirap lang ata maghanap ng ganun size ng goma.hehe

Hi Javee. Have you decided to what tire size to use? And would that be a staggered-look?

[teekoy]

Thanks a lot sir hinDMAXsiado.

But my choice is limited only to honda and isuzu because the company where i work owns dealerships of those car brands and they would only allow honda or isuzu for my car plan. I live far in bulacan where the roads are not good. Hence, the choice for a dmax pick-up over the civic and crv of honda.

I really like the vgt version. If only anybody can assure me that it will be released here this year or even early next year i'll definitely wait for it. But the problem is nobody has any clue as to what IPC is going to offer next. Embarassing that even the GM of our company's isuzu dealerships doesn't know..

[hinDMaxsiado]

Thanks a lot hinDMAXsiado.

But my choice is limited only to honda and isuzu because the company where i work owns dealerships of those car brands and they would only allow honda or isuzu for my car plan. I live far in bulacan where the roads are not good. Hence, the choice for a dmax pick-up over the civic and crv of honda.

I really like the vgt version. If only anybody can assure me that it will be released here this year or even early next year i'll definitely wait for it. But the problem is nobody has any clue as to what IPC is going to offer next. Embarassing that even the GM of our company's isuzu dealerships doesn't know....

MY BAD, what you meant pala by GM is "General Manager" ahihi.... Perhaps you even know Johnny Fetalvero chief hehe....

Anyway, nasulat ko na rin below hehe....

Chief, that is because GM and Isuzu no longer have binding agreement as far as Australia and Asia market is concerned.... In the US, Isuzu has since pulled-out in 2008.... GM/ Chevy decided not to continue anymore their ties with Isuzu Japan for 2012, and GM separates now its assembly line with Isuzu. In fact, there is now a new GM assembly plant in Thailand.

GM's source of diesel propulsion is with VM Motori of Italy.... and the 2012 GM Colorado is the brain-child (see pics)






Both the 2012 Isuzu DMax "RT-50" and the 2012 GM (or Chevy or Holden) Colorado have recently far-differentiated their designs from each other, body- and engine-wise....

See also Topgear Phils. website for more info....

....Also if and when the now relatively-older iTEQ VGS Turbo will be arriving here in Philippines, it is also already outdated by its competitors.... but i wouldn't mind though, honestly, i like the way this existing DMax is styled (i prefer pickups that aren't so much "slopey" like the others where they are sloped in a funny way.... more like a simple square-shape is what i really like, notwithstanding "wind drag effects etc.... etc....")....
....the iTEQ VGS Turbo DMax series will definitely be the last model that still carry this current body and chassis design, and like you, i badly want one....