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    #121
    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane
    May tumawag sakin na Isuzu Dealer ko dati. Sale na raw ngayon yung Alterra nila, with matching freebies pa raw especially for cash buyers. You guys might want to check it out.

    Maganda din pala yung Alterra kapag kulay BLUE. Hindi na siya mukhang karo ng ataol.
    Di kaya na-realize nila na di talaga bebenta Alterra against the competition maski anong ikinaganda ng engine because of the price? I think it's a good move.

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    #122
    they should price it near Everest price range.

    Ranger - D-Max

    Everest - Alterra

    this is fair.

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    #123
    di k o gusto second row seat ng alterra.

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    #124
    Visited Isuzuphil's site and it's under construction/renovation with pics of new vehicles. Opening daw e Nov. 8. Can't help but notice the accessorized Alterra, standard kaya nila to kaya ganun presyo?
    Last edited by Psalm136:2; October 16th, 2005 at 08:43 PM.

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    #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalm136:2
    Visited Isuzuphil's site and it's under construction/renovation with pics of new vehicles. Opening daw e Nov. 8. Can't help but notice the accessorized Alterra, standard kaya nila to kaya ganun presyo?
    IMO, that Alterra would look a lot better if they lifted it and installed 265R16 tires and wheels.

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    #126
    Quote Originally Posted by BoEinG_747
    asking lang po ..saan ba place sa metro manila pwede ka mag patakbo ng 120 kph or more na safe ang road?

    nlex & slex ..may detector yata sila para sa speed limit?
    Sa Star tollway Batangas. Dami tumatakbo ng 160kph dun, including me. hehe.

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    #127
    Saw a black Alterra trying to overtake a tricycle at Laguna Blvd awhile ago. As the Alterra accelerated, large clouds of black smoke spewed from its exhaust. And we are talking about a few months old unit here.

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    #128
    I've seen a brand new Matrix 1.5CRDi spewing black smoke under heavy acceleration, too. You really can't escape local fuel quality issues if you live outside the metro...

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    #129
    the alterra may not look that good compared to the industry leader but it surely rides a lot better than the industry leader.

    legroom second seats almost equal.

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    #130
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    I've seen a brand new Matrix 1.5CRDi spewing black smoke under heavy acceleration, too. You really can't escape local fuel quality issues if you live outside the metro...
    So the black smoke emanates from "dirty" diesel fuels? Or black smoke is really an inherent characteristic of diesel engines no matter how advanced the technology (ie. CRDi) they might have been designed and engineered with?

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    #131
    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    So the black smoke emanates from "dirty" diesel fuels? Or black smoke is really an inherent characteristic of diesel engines no matter how advanced the technology (ie. CRDi) they might have been designed and engineered with?
    Nasa pag-alaga ng vehicle din yan... My neighbor takes good care of his Alterra. It is as quiet and as smokeless as the day he got it.
    Last edited by vicoyski; July 9th, 2006 at 02:07 PM.

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    #132
    Diesel engines throttle fuel (gas engines throttle air). Black smoke can be normal when running rich under less than ideal conditions (e.g. wrong gear).

    Even diesel trucks (personal and commercial) in the U.S. spew black smoke but are still emissions compliant in their respective states.

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    #133
    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP
    Diesel engines throttle fuel (gas engines throttle air). Black smoke can be normal when running rich under less than ideal conditions (e.g. wrong gear).

    Even diesel trucks (personal and commercial) in the U.S. spew black smoke but are still emissions compliant in their respective states.

    But, isn't it that the new ECUs coupled with the CRD technology have effectively reduced the blacksmoke emitted from the exhaust?

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    #134
    saw twice .. big bodly and its real wide

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    #135
    Although CRDi engines normally produce less smoke than old diesels, OTEP is correct. Under certain conditions, like full throttle at high load, even CRDi engines will belch black smoke.

    It's partially the way you drive it, the condition of the fuel, and how well-maitained it is.

    Just watch a VW Cup race with the diesel Golf vans.

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    #136
    I had a chance of having a test ride on an Alterra yesterday in one of Isuzu's dealerships (test ride kasi di ako sanay sa matic).

    I'd say the quietness is remarkable from a diesel engine. It so quiet even starting it, I didn't even feel the usual vibrations during idling. The ride is so smooth, parang kotse (leaf spring pa to). It's wide, long and comfy.

    Though aminado yung agent ko na drawback daw talaga yung center seat sa 2nd row. Pati yung 3rd row, you have to slump back para maging comfortable because of its high flooring.

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    #137
    ^Although the Alterra has minimal diesel clatter and vibrations, however it does make loud grunting sounds similar to an Isuzu ELF when accelerating. You are right, the second and third row seats are not comfortable. It actually feels like the Sorento's.

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    #138
    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    ^Although the Alterra has minimal diesel clatter and vibrations, however it does make loud grunting sounds similar to an Isuzu ELF when accelerating. You are right, the second and third row seats are not comfortable. It actually feels like the Sorento's.

    actually, if you would have time to hang out on an isuzu casa... lahat ng isuzu engines almost sound alike from the xwind, dmax, alterra to their elf series trucks...

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    #139
    just competed in the isuzu challenge this weekend. did you know that among the 3 models in the competition(alterra, dmnax, xwind), the alterra made the best record in fule efficiency. best mileage for the alterra: 715 kms. xwind: 688 kms., dmax: 671kms. all filled up with only P1000 worth of diesel or 27.5 liters total. fyi lang.

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    #140
    WOW! that is 26kms/l. impressive!

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