2012 Ford Ranger

[OTEP]

Hi guys. Ok ba yun 4x4 XL? Its the least expensive 4x4 variant kasi. Still doing my assignment on the work trucks. Yes, I know this is the ranger thread.

Pwede din ba lagyan ng backing camera yun? San lalabas ang image?

[jut703]

Hi guys. Ok ba yun 4x4 XL? Its the least expensive 4x4 variant kasi. Still doing my assignment on the work trucks. Yes, I know this is the ranger thread.

Pwede din ba lagyan ng backing camera yun? San lalabas ang image?

I actually like the 4x4 XL - it's a no-frills 4x4 with the usual Ranger high ground clearance, good looks, and tough chassis, all at a good price. Plus, it comes in that dark grey color that I wish was offered on the XLT too.

I can't say for certain that the 4x4 XL will be more durable than a Strada GLX 4x4 or D-Max 4x4 LT, but I've had no problems with my Ranger (whether engine, suspension, or electronics).

Backup cams are installed via rear-view mirrors (similar to the Wildtrak). There are sellers of this on FCP and Ranger FB groups.

All other 4x4 pickups are crude workhorses, but the Ranger 4x4 XL is noticeably more refined and is equally nice as a daily drive as it is a beast of burden.

[Walter]

Ranger 4x4 XL has about 120+ HP only.

[Bogeyman]

I was seriously considering this, but with the introduction of the Ecosport...I changed my mind completely. What with the Ecosport's great wading power (think about the Metro's and provinces' baha), SUV-like stance and clearance (all the potholes and uneven roads), urban maneuverability (city parking and traffic, heck even in provinces), and that price (less than a million)! Ranger vs Ecosport--clearly, the latter is a vehicle to have and enjoy with your family and friends for many years. Indeed a best buy!

Ecosport's great wading power? Where fording floodwaters is concerned, your best bet is still a diesel.

Wait until the new Everest comes out, when everyone with an Ecosport will surely make the switch.

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[jut703]

Ranger 4x4 XL has about 120+ HP only.

125 hp due to the lack of VGT.
Probably cheaper to repair, at the expense of a more potent engine. I would assume that the loss is more on overtaking power and top-end grunt.

For hauling purposes though, I think the Ranger XL can handle it even with 25 less horsepower than the XLT.


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[OTEP]

Ranger 4x4 XL has about 120+ HP only.

its ok. We used to drive 99hp Pajeros. Hehe.

And the extra power without 4x4 is useless in some of the terrain we traverse especially during rainy season.

[AK147]

Hi Friends, after rejecting so many offers with DI, I got my 2.2WT Manual last month from Ford QAvenue. Actually, the arrangement with the SA is 1% DI to be covered by the Bank inclusive sa 10% 24 month interest. So okay it was still within my principle. The SA even gave me the amount through text na 20% down payment P320,505.00 kasama na LTO at about P40,000 na insurance at binawas na rin P10,000 reservation ko.

Alam nyo ba na after, maayos ko ang PO at mga papers sa bank, nung kukunin ko na yun unit ginawa nilang P60,000 yun insurance. In other words P339,793 yun text nya nung captured na ko ng sitwasyon. Bigla kong kinain principle ko. First time kong pumayag ma swindle because of my orange Ford Ranger. Inggit na kasi ako sa inyo, kaya happy na rin kahit naloko.

[Jadee]

Hi Friends, after rejecting so many offers with DI, I got my 2.2WT Manual last month from Ford QAvenue. Actually, the arrangement with the SA is 1% DI to be covered by the Bank inclusive sa 10% 24 month interest. So okay it was still within my principle. The SA even gave me the amount through text na 20% down payment P320,505.00 kasama na LTO at about P40,000 na insurance at binawas na rin P10,000 reservation ko.

Alam nyo ba na after, maayos ko ang PO at mga papers sa bank, nung kukunin ko na yun unit ginawa nilang P60,000 yun insurance. In other words P339,793 yun text nya nung captured na ko ng sitwasyon. Bigla kong kinain principle ko. First time kong pumayag ma swindle because of my orange Ford Ranger. Inggit na kasi ako sa inyo, kaya happy na rin kahit naloko.

Wow super greedy naman yang dealership na yan. And dapat wala nang D.I yan since 2.2WT/MT, when I was on the waiting list for a while last year binibigay saakin 2.2WT/MT without D.I any color pa that was last year. Oh well ganyan talaga pag excited on the new ride, dapat atleast you contest kung bakit ka nag add for insurance. Either way gratz sa new Ranger.

[jut703]

Walang manloloko kung walang nagpapaloko.

Ford gets away with all these crazy schemes since everyone is equally crazy about getting a Ranger.

Demand far exceeds supply so naturally dealers will maximize profits with their few units.

Between a Colorado with a huge discount and a Ranger with a huge DI, most pickup buyers will still go for the Ranger. Ginusto nila yan, wala namang pumipilit na kumuha ng overpriced Wildtrak but people still do so


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[confused shoes]

Ecosport's great wading power? Where fording floodwaters is concerned, your best bet is still a diesel.

Wait until the new Everest comes out, when everyone with an Ecosport will surely make the switch.

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In comparison, it would be like the Avanza and Innova. Kung bitin sa budget, mag Ecosport muna. Especially for those who only knew two kinds of cars. One big and the the other is small.

But you may be right, with the looks of the new Everest, I know one waiting for the Ranger who is now planning to switch to the new Eve. There may be another long queue though.

BTT. Matagal pa rin bang maghintay ng WT 3.2?

[jericho_j]

Wow super greedy naman yang dealership na yan. And dapat wala nang D.I yan since 2.2WT/MT, when I was on the waiting list for a while last year binibigay saakin 2.2WT/MT without D.I any color pa that was last year. Oh well ganyan talaga pag excited on the new ride, dapat atleast you contest kung bakit ka nag add for insurance. Either way gratz sa new Ranger.

For the 2 Wildtrak 2.2 MT units last month, we offered only 2% DI (P800k loan amount), LTO and TPL paid. Then the customer opted for free insurance c/o BPI.

Well, at least you have a 4x4. By May, the 2.2L variants will be a 4x2.

[jut703]

For the 2 Wildtrak 2.2 MT units last month, we offered only 2% DI (P800k loan amount), LTO and TPL paid. Then the customer opted for free insurance c/o BPI.

Well, at least you have a 4x4. By May, the 2.2L variants will be a 4x2.

You'll be phasing out the 2.2 WT or will the 2.2 WT be only 4x2?

2 lang available niyong WT last month? Kaya naman pala grabe overpricing niyo. Lucky that you still have the best selling pickup even with your horrible supply.

Fortunately Toyota doesn't have a new Hilux yet, or else lalampasuhin na naman Ford like in 2005.


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[jericho_j]

*jut703

The Wildtrak 2.2L engine will become a 4x2. Read it again buddy.

The 2 units i mentioned was only for my team, and not for the whole dealership. And the example i made is still called "overpricing"? Ibang klase ka naman. 2% DI, bayad LTO at TPL, tapos outside insurance, masama pa ba yan?

We still lose sales to other brands due to unavailability. And that's life in the auto industry. Try to be in the shoes of the owner, pare.

I hope i was able to enlighten you on this.

[SiRbossR]

Magkakaroon na ng facelift sa 2015 ang Ranger

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[nenok]

*jut703

The Wildtrak 2.2L engine will become a 4x2. Read it again buddy.

The 2 units i mentioned was only for my team, and not for the whole dealership. And the example i made is still called "overpricing"? Ibang klase ka naman. 2% DI, bayad LTO at TPL, tapos outside insurance, masama pa ba yan?

We still lose sales to other brands due to unavailability. And that's life in the auto industry. Try to be in the shoes of the owner, pare.

I hope i was able to enlighten you on this.

DI is still DI no matter what. It's added payment that should not be there in the first place and at the same time business is business, last time mitsubishi was doing it, now its ford, maybe tomorrow its Chevrolet. who knows?

I'm still waiting for mitsu to release an new strada so I can buy my WT with no DI


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[jut703]

*jut703

The Wildtrak 2.2L engine will become a 4x2. Read it again buddy.

The 2 units i mentioned was only for my team, and not for the whole dealership. And the example i made is still called "overpricing"? Ibang klase ka naman. 2% DI, bayad LTO at TPL, tapos outside insurance, masama pa ba yan?

We still lose sales to other brands due to unavailability. And that's life in the auto industry. Try to be in the shoes of the owner, pare.

I hope i was able to enlighten you on this.

Why can Mitsubishi sell their Strada without DI, with free LTO, on top of a 70k discount, while you can't?

The answer is pretty simple. They have excess supply which they need to dispose. Hence, maximizing profit per unit is not the main priority since they can generate higher absolute margin through increasing volume. You can't do that because you can't handle an increase in volume demand because your supply is limited.

Look at the XLT. Back in 2012 when the Ranger was launched, you charged DI for this variant with barely anything freebies. Fast forward a year later, I was able to get my XLT with no DI, external insurance, free LTO, and so on. What's the difference? Supply. Now that you have inventory for the XLT is more or less able to accommodate demand, the pressure to squeeze every single peso possible is no longer there.

Pag nilalangaw na ang Ranger, tingnan natin kung may DI pa kayo.

I'd like to hear your version of why you have selective DI on hot variants (and not the entire range of vehicles).


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[Walter]

*jut703
Ibang klase ka naman. 2% DI, bayad LTO at TPL, tapos outside insurance, masama pa ba yan?

Try to be in the shoes of the owner, pare.

Huh? What kind of logic is that? You add 2% on top of the SRP and you think people should be grateful because it's only 2%?

[jut703]

Huh? What kind of logic is that? You add 2% on top of the SRP and you think people should be grateful because it's only 2%?

Apparently it's okay to charge higher than SRP, prefer in-house financing clients at the expense of cash clients, etc etc.

Put yourself in their shoes daw.

Buti nalang talaga magandang pickup ang Ranger.


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[170kphlang]

sa dealer ba talaga napupunta yung DI o sa ahente?

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[jericho_j]

*jut703
I agree that law of supply and demand is the reason why This is happening on the Ranger XLTs and Wildtraks. In a dealership point of view, mas maganda talaga ang may stocks para maka-serve sa marami. Much as dealership orders a lot, only a handful comes in. Maybe this is not the right time for some people to buy this truck. Darating din naman po yan.

We accept cash transactions naman, so there's no DI involved there. In lieu of that, maybe insurance, or accessories, is/are an option.

*Walter
The DI is based on the loan amount, and not on the SRP. And this standard on a bank financing transaction. If you're getting your cars with no DI, reasons might be: 1. You have a low interest rate, or 2. The car you're getting is not that high on demand.

*170kphlang
The DI should go to the dealer. If the sales consultant gets it, he or she is in trouble.

Just clearing things out. Happy weekend guys.