Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

**miked** · May 8th, 2012 04:56 PM

Mas mahal talaga yung Delo sa mismong Caltex station kaya kapag may bagong version is konti muna binibili ko sa station tapos aantayin ko magkakaroon yung suki ko na auto parts. kapag oils sa caltex ako, kapag diesel fuel sa petron (dahil sa advantage card) at sa shell para sa 2T (pansin ko mas smooth dito takbo eh). sorry a bit OT. hehe

**miked** · May 8th, 2012 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by tsupermario

which is better, delo 400 or mobil mx?

my money on 400....technically, mas lamang delo 400 kung titignan mo pds/msds nilang dalawa. multi-oil test rated pa ang 400 kesa mx

**Retz** · May 8th, 2012 05:04 PM

Ung Delo 400 synthetic ba ito kaya mas mahal kumpara sa Delo Gold and Delo Gold Ultra? And ung API rating ng Delo Gold and Delo Gold Ultra mukhang parehas lang. Additives lang ba ang pagkakaiba?

**Ry_Tower** · May 8th, 2012 05:05 PM

^ Delo Gold is APi CH-4 only, Ultra yung CI-4. Mas mataas additive package ng Delo Gold Ultra.

Originally Posted by miked

my money on 400....technically, mas lamang delo 400 kung titignan mo pds/msds nilang dalawa. multi-oil test rated pa ang 400 kesa mx

I have to agree, may halong group III sa chem composition niya eh pero Delo Ultra and Mobil Delvac MX is group II. But if hindi naman lalampas sa 10,000kms COI na plan mo, kahit saan dyan ang piliin, and do get the one that is cheaper and readily available sa'yo dapat para yan na gagamitin mo normally.

**Retz** · May 8th, 2012 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

May separate thread regarding this. Common answer is just make sue the gas station is located in an area which is not prone to flooding (preferably elevated area) and has no history of fooling its customers.

Try to ask Caltex HQ at Makati City. But Delo 400 plus Baldwin you can easily go 15,000kms. Dami sa Bob isThe Oil Guy forums na mga used oil analysis showing how oil performed after extended drain intervals. 8K-10K miles is common so mga 12k-16K kilometers yun. And the oil is still good.

Sir, pwede na ba ang Delo Gold or Delo Gold Ultra + Baldwin oil filter for 10,000 OIC or 1 year which ever comes first?

**Ry_Tower** · May 8th, 2012 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Retz

Sir, pwede na ba ang Delo Gold or Delo Gold Ultra + Baldwin oil filter for 10,000 OIC or 1 year which ever comes first?

Go with Delo Gold Ultra.

**miked** · May 8th, 2012 08:26 PM

Delo 400 is mineral Type II+ (not type II) as per dvldoc's post sa other thread. special type of Type II.

Delo 400 is CI4 plus (hindi lang CI4, CH4, etc).

Delo 400 LE is CJ4 na. eto na yung para sa mga DPF equipped diesels. lower na zinc levels nito. boron, etc na ang mataas ata dito to serve as the antiwear additive.

It will boil down to what your budget dictates. sabagay mataas din naman kung tutuusin yung TBN ng mobil MX (i think pati rin ata anti-wear). download mo na lang muna yung mga msds/pds nung mga tinatarget mo na oil then compare tapos ilaban mo sa budget mo.

**miko101130** · May 8th, 2012 09:03 PM

yung ZDDP pala pag ka under ka nang CI-4 category could range between 5-15% of the total composition of the oil...
I have read somewhere that Delo Gold ultra 15w40, was specifically made for markets with 3 set of categories as basis for the development, mainly Longevity/ Engine Protection/ heavy duty performance...

**Retz** · May 8th, 2012 09:45 PM

Okay, so ung Delo Gold Ultra, Mobil Delvac MX and Valvoline are all API CI-4 rated. If you are gonna rank them from best to good. Tama ba ito ----> Ultra > Mobil Delvac MX > Valvoline ?

**Retz** · May 8th, 2012 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Go with Delo Gold Ultra.

Yes, will go for Gold Ultra most definitely. mahal daw pag mismo sa Caltex bumili, could someone post here kung saan meron available na dealer or reseller nito? preferably manila area.

**miked** · May 8th, 2012 10:59 PM

pwede bang imerge na lang sa kabilang thread......nahihilo nako sa kakalipat. hehehe

**number001** · May 8th, 2012 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by miked

Delo 400 is mineral Type II+ (not type II) as per dvldoc's post sa other thread. special type of Type II.

Delo 400 is CI4 plus (hindi lang CI4, CH4, etc).

Delo 400 LE is CJ4 na. eto na yung para sa mga DPF equipped diesels. lower na zinc levels nito. boron, etc na ang mataas ata dito to serve as the antiwear additive.

It will boil down to what your budget dictates. sabagay mataas din naman kung tutuusin yung TBN ng mobil MX (i think pati rin ata anti-wear). download mo na lang muna yung mga msds/pds nung mga tinatarget mo na oil then compare tapos ilaban mo sa budget mo.

This what Caltex Philippines sells here:

Delo Diesel Engine Lubricating Oil - Delo 400, Gold, Silver & Sports - Caltex Philippines

Delo Gold Multigrade 15W-40 is widely available in most stores. Gold Ultra nad Delo 400 are hard to find.

**Ginnova** · May 9th, 2012 05:47 AM

how about gasoline engines ano naman ang maganda and affordable that is safe enough for 10k OCI.

**doy** · May 9th, 2012 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by CVT

Base sa recommendation ng isang kaibigan naming engineer from THP na related sa oil industry,- use mineral oil in the first 10,000 Km - 15,000Km para mag sit properly ang mga components ng makina....

And then shift to semi-synthetic and then fully-synthetic variants....

15.6K:weathermanf2:

Yup, ZIC SD5000 (15w-40 multi-grade with CF-4 rating) lang gamit ko with OEM oil filter sa 1k kms break-in oil change ng 2010 strada 4x2 sa casa tapos ZIC 5000 (15w-40 multi-grade with CH-4 rating) with OEM oil filter sa 5k at 10k kms regular oil change sa casa. Used ZIC UP (10w-40 semi-synthetic with CI-4 rating) sa 15k regular oil change with OEM oil filter outside casa and suceeding regular oil change with Fleetguard LF3564 oil filter outside casa. Tahimik at swabe ang engine response using ZIC UP and Fleetguard oil filter.

**Retz** · May 9th, 2012 09:52 AM

Sir, paki post naman kung saan meron available preferably within Manila area itong mga API CI-4 rated na diesel engine oil (mahal kasi sa Caltex and Ace):

1. Caltex Delo Gold Ultra
2. Mobil Delvac MX
3. Valvoline

Thank you and more power.

**miko101130** · May 9th, 2012 10:12 AM

sir retz, usually sa caltex ako bumibili lang delo gold ultra... mapapamahal ka pa kasi kung lilibot ka at hanap mas mura yung natipid mo nagastos din sa pang gas , hehehe..

mobil delvac nagkalat yan sa banawe area...

valvoline eh official partner nila ang ace sa distribution at retail... so mostly sa ace nga lang meron, meron din pa onti onti sa labas pero limited ang options in terms of model line up mostly pang motorsiklo makikita sa retail...

**Retz** · May 9th, 2012 10:53 AM

^

Thank you sir. cge, sadyain ko na lang ang Caltex.

BTT:
I have also noticed the Mag 1 All Fleet engine oil for diesel engine it sells for around Php330/Li and when I read the label I'm surprised that it is rated as API CJ-4.

**miked** · May 9th, 2012 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by number001

This what Caltex Philippines sells here:

Delo Diesel Engine Lubricating Oil - Delo 400, Gold, Silver & Sports - Caltex Philippines

Delo Gold Multigrade 15W-40 is widely available in most stores. Gold Ultra nad Delo 400 are hard to find.

meron pa din yung mga naunang delo multigrades sa mga ibang supplies. ultra ang pinakamarami dito ngayon sa amin. unang nagkakaroon ng 400 aside from caltex dito eh yung mga heavy equipment parts centers.

**holdencaulfield** · May 9th, 2012 01:58 PM

sige try ko nga delo gold next oil change. dungis kasi ng mga caltex stations dito, katamad din mag DIY.
tumahimik 4ja1 ko sa HX5. sana ganito lang until the next hundred kms.

AC · May 9th, 2012 05:53 PM

guys.. pasuggest naman po ng suki supplier ng langis:D

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