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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    it's better to mix kaysa maubusan ka ng oil, but i wouldn't leave it long and i'd replace it the first chance i could.

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    para sa akin SAE 0-50 fully synthetic with grade SM / CD + additive ang mas prefered ko less buting-ting at pino ang andar ng engine more HP, quick response, basta ikanga pag tingin mo dapat palitan na ang oil palit na para hindi cya magka sludge

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    Before pouring any oil into your engine, consider the condition and type of driving you do. Check also your vehicle's warranty with regards to use of synth or mineral oils. Generally, it is a modest move to use mineral oil in both brand new and older, high mileage engines. I say again, except for some which requires the use of synthetics as per factory specs on brand new engines today.

    Synthetics compared to mineral oils are so slippery they may prevent proper break-in of engines. Older engines are looser and tend to use more oil. Synthetics will pass through worn-out parts like the piston rings and will be used up faster than mineral oils. If your car have, at present, leaks and uses oil, it will leak and use more synthetic oil.

    Synthetic oil reduce friction and give greater fuel mileage for most highway driving. Under this condition, the replacement interval is extended provided the filter will do good at that interval. if filter can't do it's job, contaminants will build up inside the engine, no matter what type of oil we use.

    As per my info, vehicles driven hard i.e. stop-and-go, short distances and similar situations, require servicing more frequently. In this situation a synthetic may not be a wise investment because for the main reason that you cannot take advantage of the long recommended change interval of synthetic oils.

    AS for the oil that i use, I'm using Delo gold 15w-40. I've been debating myself for what to use next for some experiment and my choices are Valvoline premium and mobil. Mineral multigrade.

    AS per my experiment with the tractors we maintain at my workplace, we have so far used Total Rubia mono, Castrol CR-B and Delo gold monograde. I mean no harm to the Castrol brand but what I observed is that it took about two weeks time for this oil to darken. The other two took only a few hours of use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyfix View Post
    it's better to mix kaysa maubusan ka ng oil, but i wouldn't leave it long and i'd replace it the first chance i could.
    Agreed but alex_13 intends to "top-up" his newly changed synthetic oil with mineral oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Agreed but alex_13 intends to "top-up" his newly changed synthetic oil with mineral oil.
    IMO kung top-up lang walang masamang mangyayari long-term. Pero next time, yung same brand na lang sana rin if wala na choice. Kasi liek sa shell helix, yung added components lang sa base yung nagpapamahal sa tsikot eh, so more or less compatible pa yan.

    Next oil change naman mapapalitan na majotiry eh. Not much worry IMO.
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    do turbo diesel need fully synthetic oil, or can i use mineral

    wala kasi ako mabasa sa booklet ng 4m41 na "use fully synthetic oil only" and nag tanong ako sa mitsubishi marcos na ang nirerecomend daw nila eh fully synthetic dahil daw turbo diesel ang makina ko

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    Ako I'm not sold on semi synt, either mag mineral ka or fully synth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ako I'm not sold on semi synt, either mag mineral ka or fully synth...
    it will really depend on the price na for me. may ibang semi-syn kasi na hindi malayo price sa mineral oil. a good example is Zic brand. pero pag nasa 300 peso range na semi-syn, id rather buy mineral oil nalang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    it will really depend on the price na for me. may ibang semi-syn kasi na hindi malayo price sa mineral oil. a good example is Zic brand. pero pag nasa 300 peso range na semi-syn, id rather buy mineral oil nalang.
    Sir ZIC kala q fully synthetic po ito?

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    Well if short on budget then put mineral oil if meron extra then go for full synt, parang nakakaloko yun semi synth eh.. It's doesn't give protection as much as synth anyways so why pay extra if you can get away with mineral

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    pag mineral ang importante eh yung base oil... dapat maganda ang base oil na ginamit nang brand na bibilin mo...
    madame din naman magandang minerals out there... if 40 to 50 pesos lang difference per liter, its better to buy a good oil...

    i once saw a suzuki multi cab on catltex near us, it was having its change oil before i arrived...
    i saw that the driver poured in mobil 1 0w-40... the most expensive line from mobil...
    from what i saw the multicab is being used as a delivery...
    the owner must have known something out oil... cause he used mobil 1...
    he knows the benefits of using a good oil and therefore preventing downtime on his delivery vehicle... which is essential to his business... i just smiled...

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by batosai View Post
    Sir ZIC kala q fully synthetic po ito?

    may mineral, semi-syn, and fully syn.

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    ZIC oil price estimates dito sa probinsya:

    ZIC SD5000 15w-40 multi-grade Php 175/liter
    ZIC UP 10w-40 semi-synthetic Php 210/liter
    ZIC XQ 5w-40 fully synthetic Php 550/liter

    Konti lang ang price difference ng multi-grade at semi-synthetic nila kaya ok lang mag-semi-synthetic. Pero sa performance ang layo. Sa multi-grade medyo rough na ang engine response at around 4,000kms pero sa semi-synthetic smooth pa rin sa 4,500kms. Observed this on my 2010 strada 4x2 with OEM oil filer and OEM air filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    ZIC oil price estimates dito sa probinsya:

    ZIC SD5000 15w-40 multi-grade Php 175/liter
    ZIC UP 10w-40 semi-synthetic Php 210/liter
    ZIC XQ 5w-40 fully synthetic Php 550/liter

    Konti lang ang price difference ng multi-grade at semi-synthetic nila kaya ok lang mag-semi-synthetic. Pero sa performance ang layo. Sa multi-grade medyo rough na ang engine response at around 4,000kms pero sa semi-synthetic smooth pa rin sa 4,500kms. Observed this on my 2010 strada 4x2 with OEM oil filer and OEM air filter.
    Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 is cheaper at 450 / liter but in Manila. Shipping surely won't cost 100 / liter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doy View Post
    ZIC oil price estimates dito sa probinsya:

    ZIC SD5000 15w-40 multi-grade Php 175/liter
    ZIC UP 10w-40 semi-synthetic Php 210/liter
    ZIC XQ 5w-40 fully synthetic Php 550/liter

    Konti lang ang price difference ng multi-grade at semi-synthetic nila kaya ok lang mag-semi-synthetic. Pero sa performance ang layo. Sa multi-grade medyo rough na ang engine response at around 4,000kms pero sa semi-synthetic smooth pa rin sa 4,500kms. Observed this on my 2010 strada 4x2 with OEM oil filer and OEM air filter.

    Sir, pwede paki indicate na rin ung API rating ng ZIC oil above para malaman kung pwede sa gasoline/diesel or pang diesel lang ba ito. Thanks po.

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    #16
    Used it last time on my FD, Meron ako voucher Sa true value..same, same....

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    ^ API CI-4 na ba Shell R3? Afaiak CH-4 lang. Anyway it's a good oil naman.
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    So which is more suitable for both the 4JA1 NA and turbocharged powerplant? Shell Helix diesel HX3 or the Shell Rimula R3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    ^ API CI-4 na ba Shell R3? Afaiak CH-4 lang. Anyway it's a good oil naman.
    Yes, If my recollection is correct yan ung nabasa ko sa front label. I think it is around Php230 or 250/Li. Mas mahal ng konti ung Helix HX5.

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    #20
    it would really depend on your budget. and yan lang ba option mo sir? or open kayo sa ibang options?

Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?