Planning on getting an HID retrofit

[kkreuk18]

I had retrofit upgrade last September and wala pang 2 months nawalan ng ilaw ung sa right side na angel eye. I reported to Xenon concept, and possible daw na inverter igniter daw ung nasira.. sensitive daw talaga un... pero wala naman akong ginalaw kaya I dont know pano nasira agad. Although covered ng warranty kaso weird na ang bilis masira. [emoji849]

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Kaya hindi na din ako nagpalagay nyang angel at demon eyes. Nakakainis lang pag may nasira

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[D3nb3r]

Angel eyes and demon eyes quality depends on the manufacturer lalo na mga walang budget sa R&D. But, like any other mechanical or electrical parts makakatsamba ka talaga isang parts kahit sa mga reputable brands, pero the risk goes higher sa mga never heard cheapo brands.
My led angel eyes sa previous car ko never nagka problema. 3yrs from the time it was installed then I sold the car, after mga 2yrs pa pumalya sa new owner ng car ko ang angel eyes so that's about 5 years total. Sa current vehicle ko the only reason na di ko ininstall ang demon eyes on my DIY retrofit is bawal and medyo nag step-up ang hulihan.

[istan]

Di rin ako nagpalagay ng angel eyes kasi bubutasan yun shroud. Pag nasira, at gustong tanggalin, kita yun butas.

Last angel eye i put was in 2009. What they did was 3M tape it to the shroud. Nun nasira last month, pinatanggal ko na. Clean yun tanggal ng 3M tape. Parang walang kinabit.

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[sir_jayson]

Angel eyes and demon eyes quality depends on the manufacturer lalo na mga walang budget sa R&D. But, like any other mechanical or electrical parts makakatsamba ka talaga isang parts kahit sa mga reputable brands, pero the risk goes higher sa mga never heard cheapo brands.
My led angel eyes sa previous car ko never nagka problema. 3yrs from the time it was installed then I sold the car, after mga 2yrs pa pumalya sa new owner ng car ko ang angel eyes so that's about 5 years total. Sa current vehicle ko the only reason na di ko ininstall ang demon eyes on my DIY retrofit is bawal and medyo nag step-up ang hulihan.

Yung white ring lang sir pinakabit ko para hindi maiinit sa mata ng LTO. Anyway naayos na ulit this morning, pinalitan ung ignition igniter tapos nilipat ng pwesto. Possible daw na nabasa ng tubig kaya nasira. Sabi ni Pao 5 to 7 years nga daw tumataggal. Sana nga.

[glenn_duke]

Saw this in Lazada, impressive output and cut-offs (if true) for small hids with built in mini projectors.
Perfect for reflector headlights .

2x 55W H4 LHD Bi-Xenon Bulbs Lossless HID Bulb Light Lamp Hi/Lo Beam Headlight with Mini Projector Lens 43K 6K(6K Cold White - H4/93/HB2 Hi/Lo) - intl | Lazada PH

[zechs]

I've tried one of those mini projectors dati. For a short moment, okay siya for me. Pero i still wanted more so I sold it after a day. And nung when I was installing the mini projectors, nagshoot siya sa loob nung headlight. Haha.

[D3nb3r]

Matindi ang mini projector na yan dahil pati high beam may step hehehe. At 6000kelvin it will be useless on adverse weather condition, but then it also mentioned 4300kelvin so I dont know which is which If it really produces 55watts, well goodluck with the chrome coatings ng reflector bowl ng projector. But for the price, you can buy 4 sets of it and replace it whenever necessary hehehe.

[glenn_duke]

Matindi ang mini projector na yan dahil pati high beam may step hehehe. At 6000kelvin it will be useless on adverse weather condition, but then it also mentioned 4300kelvin so I dont know which is which If it really produces 55watts, well goodluck with the chrome coatings ng reflector bowl ng projector. But for the price, you can buy 4 sets of it and replace it whenever necessary hehehe.

May choice yata if you want the default 6000K or order the 4300K.
May advertise na 4300K pero for right hand drive setting.

Gulat din ako sa cut-offs at intensity, talo pa yung hid ng montero ko for a small bulb and 1.5 inch projector.
May 70 watts din, yun 55watts I picked it kasi same wattage ng stock bulb, baka dina kailangan ng canceller.

Mura nga, at kung totoo yung picture ng cut-offs , sulit.

[D3nb3r]

May choice yata if you want the default 6000K or order the 4300K.
May advertise na 4300K pero for right hand drive setting.

Gulat din ako sa cut-offs at intensity, talo pa yung hid ng montero ko for a small bulb and 1.5 inch projector.
May 70 watts din, yun 55watts I picked it kasi same wattage ng stock bulb, baka dina kailangan ng canceller.

Mura nga, at kung totoo yung picture ng cut-offs , sulit.

55w halogen ay magkaiba sa 55w HID. Actually there is no 55w HID bulbs that I know from reputable brands. 25w mostly for OEM and 35watts for aftermarket. 55watts HID system ay galing sa ballast and not actually rating of the bulb. Kaya nag tataka ako sa ad na yan na 55w HID daw pero di nag mention ng ballast. That is also the reason Why I mentioned, goodluck sa chrome coating dahil the common aftermarket 35w HID bulb pag ginamitan ng 55w ballast will go into overdrive hence mas malakas, it will also shorten the lifespan of the bulb. At the same time overdrive din ang emission ng UV from the bulb which will damage the chrome coating overtime. UV quantity goes higher sa mga unknown bulb brands na walang R&D.

[glenn_duke]

55w halogen ay magkaiba sa 55w HID. Actually there is no 55w HID bulbs that I know from reputable brands. 25w mostly for OEM and 35watts for aftermarket. 55watts HID system ay galing sa ballast and not actually rating of the bulb. Kaya nag tataka ako sa ad na yan na 55w HID daw pero di nag mention ng ballast. That is also the reason Why I mentioned, goodluck sa chrome coating dahil the common aftermarket 35w HID bulb pag ginamitan ng 55w ballast will go into overdrive hence mas malakas, it will also shorten the lifespan of the bulb. At the same time overdrive din ang emission ng UV from the bulb which will damage the chrome coating overtime. UV quantity goes higher sa mga unknown bulb brands na walang R&D.

Oo nga ano, walang mention ng ballast, and its not even shown sa mga pics.
Except for 1 short feedback, wala nang ibang info sa reliability ng product na ito.
For the price and ads, nakaka tempt itry

Eto yung sa 4300K nila, I asked.

2x 55W H4 LHD Bi-Xenon Bulbs Lossless HID Bulb Light Lamp Hi/Lo Beam Headlight with Mini Projector Lens 43K 6K(43K White Yellow - H4/93/HB2 Hi/Lo) - intl | Lazada PH

[D3nb3r]

Oo nga ano, walang mention ng ballast, and its not even shown sa mga pics.
Except for 1 short feedback, wala nang ibang info sa reliability ng product na ito.
For the price and ads, nakaka tempt itry

Eto yung sa 4300K nila, I asked.

2x 55W H4 LHD Bi-Xenon Bulbs Lossless HID Bulb Light Lamp Hi/Lo Beam Headlight with Mini Projector Lens 43K 6K(43K White Yellow - H4/93/HB2 Hi/Lo) - intl | Lazada PH

Buy at your own risk na lang hehehe.
If you look closely sa mga screws na ginamit I dont think it will hold overtime due to vibration lalo na yung sa base ng solenoid for the shield. I suggest put a drop of thread lockers sa mga screws para di lumuwag, they look flimsy and parang hand tap lang ginamit sa pag thread ng butas.
Notice ko rin na ang laki ng opening sa side ng projector. Unless may shroud talaga para sa ganyan ka liit na projector para takpan ang open space sa side na yan then all of that excess light from the bulb will spread out sa open side and into the reflector housing ng halogen headlight. And since iba na ang source of light na pinangalingan na tumatama sa surface ng halogen reflector housing, mag iiba din ang angle ng light throw nyan. Most probably glare ang outcome nyan.
Sa katagalan I'm starting to think na ang mga output shots na nasa ad nila is not from an actual car na kinabitan nila ng projector na yan. Qnly zechs can testify sa actual output dahil nagamit na nya yan.

[zechs]

Actually nung nabenta ko na siya, sira na pala ung isang side haha so i ended up giving it for free

[glenn_duke]

Actually nung nabenta ko na siya, sira na pala ung isang side haha so i ended up giving it for free

Pangit pala, saka mukha nga ring madaling matanggal sa base yung mini lens.

[Lin Dan]

From a brightness and longevity point of view from imitation HIDs, my friend recommends to keep the stock headlights and just upgrade on Philips Crystal Vision Ultra halogen bulbs. At 4,000 color temp, it's more of a Xenon style already. Meron sa Lazada. Another is the PIAA Xtreme White Plus with a 4,000 color temp. I've been seeing this on Concorde shops. This is only if you wish to just achieve a near Xenon like headlight output. Otherwise, you may still go ahead for an HID upgrade and gamble on reliability and durability on the long haul.

[carwhacko]

Will have mine done by garyq on 29th.


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[lewisgotbiz]

Just sharing my experience with Xenon Concepts, I'll keep it as short as possible.
Rainy season is coming so I Upgraded my girlfriend's HL to their stage 2 package:
- Q5 Projectors
- NHK Ballasts 38W
- NHK HID Bulbs 4300K
- Not sure if the relay used is also NHK
- Php 10,500
- 1 year warranty on parts
- Unlimited warranty on moist
- Work done in under 4 hours

Got it installed on July 2018, first impressions:
- Nilinisan pati loob ng HL lens (alam ko hindi dapat ginagalaw loob ng lens)
- Hindi ginamitan ng oven yung pagbukas sa HL, Heat gun ang ginamit (Kay Tots and GaryQ ba oven ang gamit?)
- Wiring is neat
- Ganda ng output

Problems:
1) Binalik ko agad 2 weeks after kasi nag heavy moist yung driver side at nakaapekto na sa output. Solution: pinalitan niya ng bagong sealant. Morimoto retro rubber yata ginamit nya (not sure sorry)

2) Dec 2018 nighttime, nawalan ang passenger side ng ilaw during our convoy to Tagaytay. Impressive pa din, kahit isa lang mas malakas pa din sa 1 pair of stock halogens. Sabi ng utol ko nung pinag high beam ko si misis sa likod, parang bumaba daw ang Diyos .
Kidding aside, pinalitan ni sir Pao ng new ballast, yun nga lang pag check ko hindi na sya NHK. (I forgot the brand). Sabi nya, may batch ng ballasts daw ang NHK na may issue. Isa ako doon sa maswerteng nakakuha ng batch na yun haha.

3) A day after replacing the passenger side ballast, napansin namin ni misis na mahina yung light output nya compared sa driver side with NHK ballast. I checked the alignment and pinagpbaliktad ko yung bulbs, talagang mahina sa paseenger side (so I am guessing na may problema doon sa replacement)

4) During the recent inclement weather (Usman) nag moist naman ngayon sa passenger side.

My thoughts?
Madali naman kausap si Pao in terms of warranty. I now live in Lipa, Batangas kaya sobrang hassle lang kung magpapabalik balik for warranty. In the span of 6 months, bumalik ako sa kanya twice. Dapat ipapawarranty ko ulit kaya lang ang gastos sa time, gas, and toll of course. For instance, balikan ko from Lipa to Xenon is 728 pesos ang toll fee plus gasolina pa. Kaunti na lang makakabili na ako ng brand new ballast hehe.

Chroma Lights Lipa quoted me for less than Php 20k for their stage 2 package. I chose Xenon kasi okay ang feedback nya dito sa tsikot forums and syempre mas budget friendly.

Will I recommend him? tough question! para kasing ang onti ng patong ni Pao sa services nya. For instance:
- 2k petot ang pair of NHK HID bulbs
- 1.5k ang per piece of ballast (so 3k petot ang pair)
- Hindi ko natanong kung how much ang projectors hehe
- 1k ang labor if gusto mo ilipat ang projectos mo to a new HL assembly

For the price, sure! I higly recommend.
For workmanship and longevity, hmm not sure about this.
For warranty, sure! Highly recommended kasi sobrang dali kausap.
Will I have another one of our cars retrofitted? Yes, but with reservations of course.

Sana hindi masyado mahaba. Salamwuch!

P.S. I know madaming satisfied customers si Xenon, baka ako lang yung isa na medyo di maganda ang experience.
It is bound to happen naman in any given service, products, etc. Just like lemon in cars.

[Khikho]

Buy at your own risk na lang hehehe.
If you look closely sa mga screws na ginamit I dont think it will hold overtime due to vibration lalo na yung sa base ng solenoid for the shield. I suggest put a drop of thread lockers sa mga screws para di lumuwag, they look flimsy and parang hand tap lang ginamit sa pag thread ng butas.
Notice ko rin na ang laki ng opening sa side ng projector. Unless may shroud talaga para sa ganyan ka liit na projector para takpan ang open space sa side na yan then all of that excess light from the bulb will spread out sa open side and into the reflector housing ng halogen headlight. And since iba na ang source of light na pinangalingan na tumatama sa surface ng halogen reflector housing, mag iiba din ang angle ng light throw nyan. Most probably glare ang outcome nyan.
Sa katagalan I'm starting to think na ang mga output shots na nasa ad nila is not from an actual car na kinabitan nila ng projector na yan. Qnly zechs can testify sa actual output dahil nagamit na nya yan.

Sir newbie lang po.
Pwede po ba malaman kung pwede kaya
Magparetrofit sa mga top retrofitters tapos
Sa akin yung bulb, ballast, projector tapos sa kanila labor?

Tia

[Khikho]

kala ko local mo lang binili sir. Galing lightwerkz ba?

Mga sir ano po masasabi nyo about this set-up

Bi-Xenon FXR Stage III (D2S)

Bixenon Projectors:FX-R 3.0 : 3.0" LHD (USA & CAN) Compatible Ballasts:Morimoto XB35 2.0 (35W)Ballast Igniters:Morimoto XB Igniter (D2S D2S HID Bulbs:D2S: 85122XV C1 Extreme Vision (4800K) Shroud Style:Apollo 2.0 Full Circle Wiring Harness: (match stock bulb size)Canbus: H7 Headlight SealantBlack: RetroRubber
Price$512 from lightwerkz

[sirkosero]

Sir newbie lang po.
Pwede po ba malaman kung pwede kaya
Magparetrofit sa mga top retrofitters tapos
Sa akin yung bulb, ballast, projector tapos sa kanila labor?

Tia

Honestly, hindi papayag yan. May pangalan sila na inaalagaan at gusto nila sa kanila galing parts

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[Khikho]

Honestly, hindi papayag yan. May pangalan sila na inaalagaan at gusto nila sa kanila galing parts

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Hello
Nakachat ko firedrake, redline mukhang ayaw nila sir. Si xenon concept pumayag naman As long as D series bulbs, okay sa projectors. Malamang po sa kaniya ko papagawa.. ang meron po ako ngayon
PHILIPS Xenon X-TremeVision Gen2 +150% D2S HID Xenon Bulb 85122XV2C1
D2S: MORIMOTO XB35 2.0
Thanks