Planning on getting an HID retrofit

**benten11** · September 28th, 2017 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Bakit 10k lang ang stage 2 ni Xenon Concepts vs 20k for GaryQ?

Do they use the exact same parts? Has anyone done a side by side comparison of their work?

100% price difference is pretty huge.

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yun din po sir iniisip ko. pero who knows? baka name po nagpapamahal, same as android and ios. mejo mas fluid lang ios pero ang mahal

pero sa ngayon po na wala pa po akong masyadong choices. stick muna ako kay HIDRetrofit. mukhang bang for buck talaga e. pero kung may iba pa pong options. kindly let me know. thank you po sainyo!

**jut703** · September 28th, 2017 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by benten11

yun din po sir iniisip ko. pero who knows? baka name po nagpapamahal, same as android and ios. mejo mas fluid lang ios pero ang mahal

pero sa ngayon po na wala pa po akong masyadong choices. stick muna ako kay HIDRetrofit. mukhang bang for buck talaga e. pero kung may iba pa pong options. kindly let me know. thank you po sainyo!

I had my HID done at Redline and have been very happy both with their installation and aftersales service. Stage 2 for my Mazda 3 for 19.5k with Q5 projectors, NHK bulbs, and ballasts.

No leaks inside the headlight, excellent aftersales service when they cleaned my lens after it showed poor cutoff, no fuss on the warranty claim when one of the connectors gave out prematurely.

While I'm very happy with their service, I'm curious to know why Xenon Concepts can offer the same package at half the price.

OT: The Note8 costs as much as the iPhone X ($999) so the Android vs Apple argument doesn't really hold water anymore.

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**benten11** · September 28th, 2017 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

I had my HID done at Redline and have been very happy both with their installation and aftersales service. Stage 2 for my Mazda 3 for 19.5k with Q5 projectors, NHK bulbs, and ballasts.

No leaks inside the headlight, excellent aftersales service when they cleaned my lens after it showed poor cutoff, no fuss on the warranty claim when one of the connectors gave out prematurely.

While I'm very happy with their service, I'm curious to know why Xenon Concepts can offer the same package at half the price.

OT: The Note8 costs as much as the iPhone X ($999) so the Android vs Apple argument doesn't really hold water anymore.

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sir do you have a pic for your setup? I'm a bit curious.

also why do they clean your lenses sir? does it moist? because THAT is my primary problem in my HL. can those shop remove "that" moist before installing their retrofits?

I searched for Redline, but can't find any site or what the shop look like. are they trustworthy sir?I've somewhat learned my lessons in a shop in banawe, but it's a long story.

**jut703** · September 28th, 2017 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by benten11

sir do you have a pic for your setup? I'm a bit curious.

also why do they clean your lenses sir? does it moist? because THAT is my primary problem in my HL. can those shop remove "that" moist before installing their retrofits?

I searched for Redline, but can't find any site or what the shop look like. are they trustworthy sir?I've somewhat learned my lessons in a shop in banawe, but it's a long story.

Exterior shot of the headlamps:

Output on the road:

They cleaned my headlamps because the car is 13 years old and the headlamp housing has degraded over time, making the lighting output hazy.

The moisture on headlamps is caused by imperfect sealing of the headlamps. When they retrofit your headlamps, they will apply new sealant. I have not experienced moist headlamps with Redline's work.

You can search Redline Auto Works on Facebook. Their shop is located in White Plains and is certainly a far cry from the shady shops in Banawe.

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**D3nb3r** · September 28th, 2017 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by benten11

sa ngayon po sir sa HIDRetrofit ang balak ko, kasi mukhang High Quality and Reputation ang shop nila, with samples nang mga nainstallan nila nang mga projectors nila, they show to public what they do, and the quality they do. and lastly tulad po nang sabi niyo maganda philips bulbs,and they use those bulbs in their retrofit. kaya mejo nabili nila attention ko.

although di pa naman ako decided kung sakanila talaga ako kukuha. may idea ka pa ba sir kung saan? yun nga lang po sa province po kayo naka reside di po ba? baka malayo na po ang mga shop na alam niyo. hehe. thanks po sa ideas about sa HL natin!

kanya kanyang marketing mga shops sir yung iba finish product na pina pakita yung iba pinapakita during opening of HL. Check mo page ng Firedrake or Chroma lights. IMO hidretrofit and redline are usually at the top of the conversation medyo pricey nga lang. Xenon concepts is known for its budget friendly price.
yes sa provinve ako nakatira pero nung una akong nagpa retrofit pina lbc ko HL ko to manila.

DIY mo yan sir?edi stock HL housing pa rin po gamit niyo?

yup DIY lang sir and I'll still be using my stock HL. medyo modify lang cguro ang mounts since magka iba ang stock HID projector ko kaysa mini d2s 4.0.

Originally Posted by benten11

I searched for Redline, but can't find any site or what the shop look like. are they trustworthy sir?I've somewhat learned my lessons in a shop in banawe, but it's a long story.

Wala pong site ang redline. Sa mga retrofitter sa pinas hidretrofit lang ang meron website dahil sila yung pioneer shop sa pinas in retrofitting. Na feature na rin sila sa top gear philippines.
Redline is also a good option and hindi na sila bagohan sa retrofitting. They have handled a few hundred cars including luxury cars. And yung unang stage 3 retrofit ko is redline ang gumawa.

**benten11** · September 28th, 2017 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Exterior shot of the headlamps:

sir do they have options where the shrouds is like devil/angel eye?I really do like good light quality together with "porma" since I will only change or replace my HL setup once, I want it to be all in one.

Output on the road:

sir is this on low or high? when it rains, do the HID stays like this? cause I remember my setup on my car before, "bulbs" only, when it rains, I cant barely see the light, it is like the light is going to different directions. hahaha

They cleaned my headlamps because the car is 13 years old and the headlamp housing has degraded over time, making the lighting output hazy.

The moisture on headlamps is caused by imperfect sealing of the headlamps. When they retrofit your headlamps, they will apply new sealant. I have not experienced moist headlamps with Redline's work.

You can search Redline Auto Works on Facebook. Their shop is located in White Plains and is certainly a far cry from the shady shops in Banawe.

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I've searched it and used streetview of google map. hindi po ba parang liblib yung place? or di lang napasok nang google yung street ni redline. hahaha.

thank you sir for showing me your setup and giving me ideas. much appreciated!

**jut703** · September 28th, 2017 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by benten11

sir do they have options where the shrouds is like devil/angel eye?I really do like good light quality together with "porma" since I will only change or replace my HL setup once, I want it to be all in one.

sir is this on low or high? when it rains, do the HID stays like this? cause I remember my setup on my car before, "bulbs" only, when it rains, I cant barely see the light, it is like the light is going to different directions. hahaha

I've searched it and used streetview of google map. hindi po ba parang liblib yung place? or di lang napasok nang google yung street ni redline. hahaha.

thank you sir for showing me your setup and giving me ideas. much appreciated!

Yes, gagawin naman ni Redline yang mga angel/devil for you for an additional charge. Personally though I prefer a cleaner OEM look.

Low beam yan. High beam is even brighter. I actually intentionally underexposed the photo to show the width of the lighting but in person it was brighter than that. My car has good light output even during rains. Kaya mahina lighting mo before because it wasn't a real retrofit - talagang mahina ang plug and play HID/LED especially if reflector headlamps lang.

Hindi liblib ang White Plains. Sobrang mahal na subdivision nun and private subdivision yun which is probably why there isn't any Google Streetview.

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**D3nb3r** · September 28th, 2017 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Bakit 10k lang ang stage 2 ni Xenon Concepts vs 20k for GaryQ?

Do they use the exact same parts? Has anyone done a side by side comparison of their work?

100% price difference is pretty huge.

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I'm also curious. Ang pagkaka alam ko mga NHK bulbs, ballast and projectors ang ginagamit sa mga entry level ng mga shops.
If same lang ang parts na ginagamit sa 10k-12k ng xenon concept or firedrake then it would be intersting to know kung anong parts ang gamit sa medyo pricey na mga shops.

**benten11** · September 28th, 2017 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

kanya kanyang marketing mga shops sir yung iba finish product na pina pakita yung iba pinapakita during opening of HL. Check mo page ng Firedrake or Chroma lights. IMO hidretrofit and redline are usually at the top of the conversation medyo pricey nga lang. Xenon concepts is known for its budget friendly price.
yes sa provinve ako nakatira pero nung una akong nagpa retrofit pina lbc ko HL ko to manila.

siguro sir stick na lang muna ako kina hidretrofit and redline, kahit pricey, mukhang safe and high quality naman works nila. mahirap na at baka ma banawe na naman ako. haha

yup DIY lang sir and I'll still be using my stock HL. medyo modify lang cguro ang mounts since magka iba ang stock HID projector ko kaysa mini d2s 4.0.

galing naman sir.

sana marunong din ako mag DIY, kaso pag about sa wiring mukhang malabo para sakin. kahit sa motor minsan nagogoyo ako kasi wala akong gganong alam. hahaha.

so bali ikaw magaassemble sir? devil eye yung sainyo sir diba? may mga ganung style kaya sila hidretrofit or redline? meron mga samples sa hidretrofit site kaso yung HL lang ang pinapakita, di pinakita yung output niya once turned on.

**benten11** · September 28th, 2017 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Sobrang jologs for me ng devil eye, and yung angel eye bagay lang sa kotseng may stock angel eyes (i.e. BMWs). Pero bahala ka if you want, gagawin naman ni Redline yan for you for an additional charge.

sir yung projectors ba satin may feature na "daylight"? yung parang sa mga bagong model nang cars ngayon na may led light na naka open day or night. like dun sa ecosport namin. always open yun. yun kasi madalas kong nakikita sa mga nakakasalubong ko na naka projectors e.

Low beam yan. High beam is even brighter. I actually intentionally underexposed the photo to show the width of the lighting but in person it was brighter than that. My car has good light output even during rains. Kaya mahina lighting mo before because it wasn't a real retrofit - talagang mahina ang plug and play HID/LED especially if reflector headlamps lang.

ganyan pa rin po kaya kalinaw kahit thick tinted yung car ko? kasi sa halogen stock HL grabe hirap kong makita daan kahit di pa malabo mata ko.

Hindi liblib ang White Plains. Sobrang mahal na subdivision nun and private subdivision yun which is probably why there isn't any Google Streetview.

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ibig sabihin sir si Redline nasa loob nang subdivision? di na kasi napasok ni google yung whitefield ave e