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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    toyota better sell this with half the price


    lemme guess... the secondary battery has piss poor cycle life. intended for that twice-a-year long trip so maybe you can only cycle it 50x. still an interesting idea...

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    1 year anniversary of Ferrari's PTSD



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    #63
    indonesia's gonna be manufacturing the wuling mini EV locally. we got left behind in ICE cars w/ the exodus of local assemblers. we'll be eating electric dust again in the EV revolution

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    #64
    full EV is just not viable. hybrids are the way to go with the current crisis by brandon...

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    2.5M to 3M
    400kms per charge
    8 hours 0 to 100% charge


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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    full EV is just not viable. hybrids are the way to go with the current crisis by brandon...
    Families/People with more than 1 car are ready to go full EV.

    kasi palagi nating naiisip yung walang charging point sa destination natin. pero kung aalis ka ng house na full ang gas mo, mag top-up ka ba ng gas bago umuwi ng house?

    (My personal opinion)
    1. wallet natin ang di pa ready sa EVs. masakit pa pakawalan si 1.8M for a BYD Dolphin
    - kahit sa SG/HK, since mas mahal to book an EV Grab/Uber, nauuwi ako sa mas murang Grab/Uber options.

    2. di pa tayo ready to buy a 2M+ car from a new brand (BYD, Weltmeister etc.)

    3. too much reliance on PMS outside the casa (again wallet related). di naman natin pwede dalhin kay kuya mechanic si Nissan Leaf.

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    #67
    Kung may AC lang sana ang Twizy pwede na pang DD.

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    #68
    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    2.5M to 3M
    400kms per charge
    8 hours 0 to 100% charge

    Hmmmm....

    more than 2.5M + chinese made + full EV + pretentious european name = DOA

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    #69
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Kung may AC lang sana ang Twizy pwede na pang DD.


    GM should bring in their Chinese Mini-EV. Enclosed and air-conditioned and should be 300k or less.
    Same range as and purpose as the Twizy but cheaper and better feature set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Families/People with more than 1 car are ready to go full EV.

    kasi palagi nating naiisip yung walang charging point sa destination natin. pero kung aalis ka ng house na full ang gas mo, mag top-up ka ba ng gas bago umuwi ng house?

    (My personal opinion)
    1. wallet natin ang di pa ready sa EVs. masakit pa pakawalan si 1.8M for a BYD Dolphin
    - kahit sa SG/HK, since mas mahal to book an EV Grab/Uber, nauuwi ako sa mas murang Grab/Uber options.

    2. di pa tayo ready to buy a 2M+ car from a new brand (BYD, Weltmeister etc.)

    3. too much reliance on PMS outside the casa (again wallet related). di naman natin pwede dalhin kay kuya mechanic si Nissan Leaf.


    yeah for us w/ multiple cars it's easy. just dump 1 car and use the EV for short trips. gasoline car for longer trips

    as for price there's the wuling mini EV. indonesia is gonna be building it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    yeah for us w/ multiple cars it's easy. just dump 1 car and use the EV for short trips. gasoline car for longer trips

    as for price there's the wuling mini EV. indonesia is gonna be building it

    yes. Wuling is there... pero technically, wala pa

    we all want to own the new all new Civic/Fortuner etc. Pero we don't want to be the first guy who buys a Weltmeister.

    Kahit sa office namin, iisa naka Chinese car. Everyone is asking him kung paano ito or magkano PMS. pero in the end, a lot of guys end up with the usual brands.

    Ganyan din subd namin nung first time na may unang naguwi ng A/T... ang bulungan ng mga tito, paano kung masira
    Power windows - paano mo isasara yung bintana kapag wala nang bat?
    Power lock - paano kung sira and iniwan mo yung car na di pala naka-lock

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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post


    GM should bring in their Chinese Mini-EV. Enclosed and air-conditioned and should be 300k or less.
    Same range as and purpose as the Twizy but cheaper and better feature set.



    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    yeah for us w/ multiple cars it's easy. just dump 1 car and use the EV for short trips. gasoline car for longer trips

    as for price there's the wuling mini EV. indonesia is gonna be building it


    ganito gusto ko usapan. Affordable & functionality. Doing things need not be expensive.

    Kaya umasenso talaga china.

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    if wuling can provide 8yrs warranty on their battery, then thats a game changer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    2.5M to 3M
    400kms per charge
    8 hours 0 to 100% charge

    watching the video now...

    It's pronounced as "veltmeister double U five"

    two ways to pronounce a "w"

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    #75
    whats worse? the 3m ev or that topgear presenter lol.

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    #76
    ang gamda magiging future kung majority electric vehicle na.

    Nababantutan talaga ako pag desel. From landcruiser na status symbol pero tunog factory, at mga innova, crosswind, monstero, fortuner na kumakalembang. I-alllow lang desel dapat kasing tahimi ng euro6.

    Pero ang sakit sa ulo fumes ng desel.

    Kaya ganito maganda future usapang electric

    think 1000years ahead

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    Democrats want you to buy electric cars


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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    if wuling can provide 8yrs warranty on their battery, then thats a game changer...
    8 years warranty pero upon evaluation of the warranty claim eh denied ka because kung ano chu chu, yan ang na experience ko kahit sa auto giant na toyota...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    8 years warranty pero upon evaluation of the warranty claim eh denied ka because kung ano chu chu, yan ang na experience ko kahit sa auto giant na toyota...
    hahaha. agree. same experience na friend ko with his motorcycle...

    nagfail daw ECU nya kasi nag under voltage yung bike every time he uses his upgraded horns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    8 years warranty pero upon evaluation of the warranty claim eh denied ka because kung ano chu chu, yan ang na experience ko kahit sa auto giant na toyota...
    chuchu amp..

    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    hahaha. agree. same experience na friend ko with his motorcycle...

    nagfail daw ECU nya kasi nag under voltage yung bike every time he uses his upgraded horns
    i would deny warranty naman if there are mods on your vehicle.

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