Hybrids and EV

[Dr.Kamiya]

Same question, ang liit nya compare kay CRV, pero si CRV EV nasa <2000kg category.

The bigger Corolla Cross is also in the < 2000kg category

[Walter]

Yaris Cross > 2000Kg?

Toyota badge is already 500 kgs ...

[shadow]

*boybi ano EV mo?


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[ale828]

In EV, charging protocol to lengthen the life of the battery depends on the type of battery.
It all depends on the model of the EV you will buy.
Most models of BYD uses their Blade battery, its a type of Lithium Ion Phosphate that can be charged consistently to 100% without worry of major degradation.
These same Lithium ion battery is present in the Tesla Model 3/Y Standard range but the Model 3/Y Long Range and performance models uses Nickel Metal Hydride(ni-mh) which you should regularly charge only up to 80% to prolong its battery life. You can always charge it to 100% on Long trips or if needed but its suggested by the manufacturer to charge it from 20-80% to prolong battery life.
Other car manufacturers usually have a variant of the Ni-mh battery.
EV usually comes with an App or smart charger function on board or in your home charger so you can set the max to 80% to help prolong battery life. even if you max the charge at 100%, the charging form 80-100% is usually in trickles to prolong the battery.

[ale828]

In the 80's - people where telling me no to buy automatic cars, sirain daw mga yun, mahal maintenance, hIndi daw tumatagal and papalitan na rin agad and cost over 50K in the 80's.

In the 90's - people where telling me not to get Turbo cars. mabilis daw masira parts nun, from Blow buy, to cylinder troubles, and kailagan daw ma replace mga turbos after 100tkm.

In the 2000's - people tell me wag daw kumuha ng Diesel na engine na kotse/SUV, mahal daw maintenance, mausok, maingay makina, madumi, mabagal daw at malakas sa crudo.

In the 2010's - People Tell me wag kumuha ng kots ena may CVT. Sirain daw ito, mahal palitan, mahirap daw upgrade yung kotse pag naka cvt.

In the 2020's - people tell me wag kumuha ng EV, nasusunog daw, mahal daw palitan ng battery, mauubusan ka daw agad ng battery life/percentage

[Walter]

2030 ... people will tell you not to buy flying cars ...

[Yatta]

[dr. d]

In the 80's - people where telling me no to buy automatic cars, sirain daw mga yun, mahal maintenance, hIndi daw tumatagal and papalitan na rin agad and cost over 50K in the 80's.

In the 90's - people where telling me not to get Turbo cars. mabilis daw masira parts nun, from Blow buy, to cylinder troubles, and kailagan daw ma replace mga turbos after 100tkm.

In the 2000's - people tell me wag daw kumuha ng Diesel na engine na kotse/SUV, mahal daw maintenance, mausok, maingay makina, madumi, mabagal daw at malakas sa crudo.

In the 2010's - People Tell me wag kumuha ng kots ena may CVT. Sirain daw ito, mahal palitan, mahirap daw upgrade yung kotse pag naka cvt.

In the 2020's - people tell me wag kumuha ng EV, nasusunog daw, mahal daw palitan ng battery, mauubusan ka daw agad ng battery life/percentage

mabuhay ang bolswagen kuba car!
heh heh.

seriously,
the message to me, is to not buy the first iterations and expect perfection.
the last iteration is usually the better, more reliable choice.

when to buy EV, or even hybrid?
unless i am heavily pressured into doing so, medyo matagal pa siguro.
a colleague who purchased a hybrid says, "all my fuel savings, i expect to splurge in the future, for a new battery!"

[ice15]

No one wants used EVs, making new ones a tougher sell too | The Straits Times

The shift away from cars with dirty combustion engines is running into a new hurdle: Drivers do not want to buy used electric vehicles (EVs), and that is undermining the market for new ones too.

In the US$1.2 trillion (S$1.6 trillion) second-hand market, prices for battery-powered cars are falling faster than for their combustion-engine cousins.

Buyers are shunning them due to a lack of subsidies, a desire to wait for better technology, and continued shortfalls in charging infrastructures.

The problems are expected to intensify in 2024, when many of the 1.2 million EVs sold in Europe in 2021 will come off their three-year leasing contracts and enter the second-hand market.

“There isn’t used-car demand for EVs,” said Mr Matt Harrison, Toyota Motor’s chief operating officer in Europe. “That’s really hurting the cost-of-ownership story.”

[shadow]

Ano binili mo EV Kags?


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[_Cathy_]

I think depende sa casa. I never followed the months. It's always 5k which takes me over a year. Never naman na deny warranty sakin. Na approve pa nga warranty appeal ko.

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[ale828]

with Hybrids, you treat the PMS like any ICE PMS. check similar ICE engines as the Hybrid and check its PMS intervals. cost would be the same. AFAIK they don't do any major thing to the battery of a hybrid. They probably just check the battery health.

For EV's naman halos wala ginagawa sa PMS. all check fluids, filters, brakes, AC, tapos plus via scanner to check the computer and battery.
Some EV's even have a PMS mileage recorder, the MG that i drove had a PMS mileage indicator. it will tell you when to bring the unit for PMS. it was set at 20,000km
The cost of the EV's PMS is way lower, wala naman papalitan na fluids like engine oil which is a major cost of PMS.

[sapphiresast]

I think depende sa casa. I never followed the months. It's always 5k which takes me over a year. Never naman na deny warranty sakin. Na approve pa nga warranty appeal ko.

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Baka maliit lang warranty claims mo? As stated "Which ever comes first" mahirap isugal yan. Outright they can deny talaga. May basis ika nga.

[carxynogen]

I think depende sa casa. I never followed the months. It's always 5k which takes me over a year. Never naman na deny warranty sakin. Na approve pa nga warranty appeal ko.

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Eto din sabi sa kakilala namin na Toyota owner.
All vehicles nila na toyota, never pa na deny warranty claim.
They only followed the mileage for PMS.

[Ilyu]

At the monent, this is huge. All Universities should grab this opportunity.

Toyota opens up 24, hybrid technology patents, offers royalty-free access for everyone till 23

On a side note. hybrid toyotas in the US only commands 1000ish US dollars over their non hybrid counterparts. Thats how far Toyota is ahead of the competition.

on a bigger side note, this huge gesture will hurt oil refineries that sell fuel.

We cannot deny the fact that the world is now on the age of energy-efficient and environment-friendly vehicles.

[dr. d]

We cannot deny the fact that the world is now on the age of energy-efficient and environment-friendly vehicles.

some nay-sayers,
"we are just exporting the carbon footprint, when we buy EVs."
we still have to make vast improvements in their manufacture.
at least, we are probably in the right general direction.

[monty_GTV]

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[baludoy]

meron na palang charging station ang shell sa rosario, la union gas station location nila

[Verbl Kint]

SAIC has just released a full suite of EV's in the PH, which covers even more segments than its bitter domestic rival, BYD.

[111prez]