Devilsown Alcohol Injection Event Results

[buhawi]

Cougar87,

Have you installed the kit on your Pajero? Probably you can re-activate your EGR and see if the black smoke would also disappear. Well, i'm pretty sure it will be gone.

[cougar87]

Cougar87,

Have you installed the kit on your Pajero? Probably you can re-activate your EGR and see if the black smoke would also disappear. Well, i'm pretty sure it will be gone.

Not yet! I'll be doing it tomorrow with the help of my mech!
Hehe! I saw your earlier post, Sir! I'll do the same on my EGR.

It was a pleasure meeting you Sir!

[obrut renut]

What a day it was indeed, no sleep the night before, my mcdoes breakfast delivery was late then got stuck in traffic on edsa, so i was a little late for the start of the day, was beggining to think it was the way it was going to continue.

Boy was i wrong, it turned out to be a great day indeed.

When i finally arrived the guys at speedlab had already started the install on another vehicle so i parked up and was made to feel at home straight away from the other owners that had turned up for this event.

There was a mixture of all kinds of vehicles and people here all with a common interest, never a dull moment and the catering for the event was top notch indeed, a credit to speedlab.

The hi lux looked good on the rolling road, but i can tell you it was even better out in the street as i was given a ride in it later with the owner, luckily he has the option of selecting rear wheel drive only, which added to the fun.

Every person who went out with their vehicles after the kit was fitted all came back with huge smiles on their faces and for good reason. This kit made all the diiference to a wide range of vehicles old and new.

For me, i can tell you, i have a 3.0 d4d fortuner with some other alterations done to it, but this is the best bang for buck you are going to get.

I broke traction on the street with 4 wheel drive, my intake temps are down and i have a huge smile on my face, the only downfall is i am waiting for my bigger water tank to arrive. I empytied it from qc to makati, but what a rush. I had to do a trip to the airport earlier this morning, so the traffic was light and it was nice and cool out there, beleive me, i had good throttle responsive before, but now, its stopping thats the problem and keeping the water tank filled.

I have not had the dyno run yet, but i already know the difference i have and more than happy with this kit, but once it has been done i will make sure the results are posted.

It was a shame that there were barely any fcp members there as i was looking forward to meeting some that have a common interest, but one did turn up for a while on his way to work, so i was pleased to get the chance to chat with him for a while.

If you are interested in the kit and are in the makati area, i would be more than happy to give you a ride around the block to see for yourself what a difference this makes.

All in all, it was good day, my hat of to the speedlab and devils own guys, you done a great job over the course of a long day and made a lot of people happy, myself included with this product.

Thanks to all the guys i met, especially 4gtootsie, sorry if i got the name wrong, for helping with the install, advice and of course for the healthy supply of go go juice, think i will need lots more soon.

As for scaring dvldoc my apologies, i was sleepy, usually i drive faster, but the lack of the sleep make me a little cautious, but hey, your product works great indeed, as the saying goes here more power db. I highly recommend this to anyone looking for a more cooler running and higher output on your vehicles.

[dvldoc]

I can bet since the Hilux picked up a easy 70hp with the 4gph nozzle with just a Stage 1 boost activated kit. I can say without to much doubt with your mods you picked up a easy 90hp with the 2gph pre turbo and 3gph at the throttle body and the use of the progressive controller, . It takes alot for a heavy truck to cut the tires loose at speed with 3 people and the Aircon going full blast.

The newer Common rail diesels with electronic will always see huge gains the hilux picked up 40% more power at 3000% rpms, The lower rpms should be around 50% but do to the power level the tranny says shift so we could not dyno it. But very vicious on the street.

The Kia Sorento also behaved the same way, 2nd gear shifts were were running so hard it was chirping the tires.

All this, with lower intake temps, lower exhaust gas temps, and around a 70% to 80% reduction in emissions better fuel economy (if you can control not flooring it all the time lol. There is no greater bang for the buck modification available period.

[4JGtootsie]

Congratulations to all who bought the kit.
Thank you for buying methanol from me.
Its a pleasure meeting and helping you all.

[cougar87]

Congratulations to all who bought the kit.
Thank you for buying methanol from me.
Its a pleasure meeting and helping you all.

Sir, if your still selling methanol, wolf den of 4x4ph is asking for your number at the same forum. please check.

[wayward]

All this, with lower intake temps, lower exhaust gas temps, and around a 70% to 80% reduction in emissions better fuel economy (if you can control not flooring it all the time lol. There is no greater bang for the buck modification available period.[/quote]

im definitely sold on this product, just basing on the testimonials of the tsikoteers here is more than enough reason
sir devildoc, do have dealers/installers in the visayas area? plannin to have one installed in my fuego, its a 2.8 turbo, what kit would be best for this type of ride? hw much will it cost me? can this be installed by any regular mechanic?
Plannin to install one too in my carens...but the factory warranty being avoided by the installation of such device is the only thing that is holding me back.
TIA

[dvldoc]

Anyone that can install a nitrous kit should have no problem installing our system, The directions are very detailed and it's really not hard. Speedlab is currently our wholesaler in the Philippines, Anyone wanting to be a dealer will need to contact them.

www.speedlab.com.ph

We should be shipping out there next order in about a week and they will have plenty of kits in stock. They can also mail via carrier a kit.

You will get the 4cly turbo diesel kit or if you want the progressive controlled kit if you have electronics. Speedlab sells the Stage one 4cly turbo for 12000P and 15000P installed.

This is one product you will never find a person that is unhappy with the performance. I know the Kia that we did that day was ripping the tires loose with 3 people in the car and the aircon on full on the second gear shift.

[wayward]

Anyone that can install a nitrous kit should have no problem installing our system, The directions are very detailed and it's really not hard. Speedlab is currently our wholesaler in the Philippines, Anyone wanting to be a dealer will need to contact them.

www.speedlab.com.ph

We should be shipping out there next order in about a week and they will have plenty of kits in stock. They can also mail via carrier a kit.

You will get the 4cly turbo diesel kit or if you want the progressive controlled kit if you have electronics. Speedlab sells the Stage one 4cly turbo for 12000P and 15000P installed.

This is one product you will never find a person that is unhappy with the performance. I know the Kia that we did that day was ripping the tires loose with 3 people in the car and the aircon on full on the second gear shift.

that's a sight to behold for a diesel...burnout at 2nd gear!
BTW sir dvldoc, i will post some pix of the engine bay for the best location of the nozzle. Im planning to install it myself with the aide of a mechanic of course. Im quite wary of installing it pre turbo, im opting for the post turbo...will make order via courier. tnx

[wayward]

Anyone that can install a nitrous kit should have no problem installing our system, The directions are very detailed and it's really not hard. Speedlab is currently our wholesaler in the Philippines, Anyone wanting to be a dealer will need to contact them.

www.speedlab.com.ph

We should be shipping out there next order in about a week and they will have plenty of kits in stock. They can also mail via carrier a kit.

You will get the 4cly turbo diesel kit or if you want the progressive controlled kit if you have electronics. Speedlab sells the Stage one 4cly turbo for 12000P and 15000P installed.

This is one product you will never find a person that is unhappy with the performance. I know the Kia that we did that day was ripping the tires loose with 3 people in the car and the aircon on full on the second gear shift.

dvldoc,
tough luck sir, the local distributor ran out of stocks. Next shipment will take 6weeks, cant wait that long ,i placed my order thru your website.

[dvldoc]

Yeah I saw the order, I don't think it will take 6 weeks but thats a rough estimate.

[duskylim]

Dear Guys:

Before anything else, Greetings to all fellow Tsikoteers!

to buhawi - you're welcome man, anytime, I just stuck around to see how they installed the system, I used to have a shop so installation wasn't really an issue for me.

to cougar87 - I heard you're a little disappointed with the 1st tests, and are having SpeedLab re-install your kit, please post your results.

to 4JGtootsie - thanks for the methanol, will txt u about our business later.

The Saga of my Install :

Wow, Just finished installing my progressive kit on the Mazda, will give you guys updates as I use it.

The hardest part of the install was where to put the Ford MAF sensor that dvldoc got for me.

I finally decided to install it on top of my Air Filter body (did a aluminum foil crush test first to ascertain if there was enough clearance under the hood).

Had to drill (with a hole saw) 1.25 (1 and 1/4 inch) hole for it to fit. And folded some sheetmetal over it for protection.

Used some double-sticky foam tape to help seal the sides from leaks, as well as a generous amount of silicone sealant.

I also decided to install the nozzle about 2.5 inches behind the MAF sensor, on the same pipe, tucked into the right side, away from direct exposure to the hot exhaust manifold.

One of the things you should have if you're performing a DIY install is a hand tap to cut the threads for the nozzle and the tank fitting, it will save you a lot of time and tears.

Also I used teflon tape (dvldoc - I know you don't recommend that) on all fittings and threads, even for the nozzle and got NO LEAKS whatsoever.

The tank I ended up using is a 2-liter plastic tank from - (I hate to admit this) a Chinese supplier of high-quality oyster sauce (yes it's available from Unimart).

Its actually very attractive tank (about the size of a ladies' handbag) and even includes a plastic plug as well as a cap, and is pretty thick (about 4 mm near the bottom).

In addition to the pump fitting, I drilled 1/8th inch holes in the plug and cap for ventilation.

As the tank is only about 3 inches wide and 7 x 7 inches square, it straps easily to my existing windshield washer tank, using zip locks.

With the plumbing done, that left the electrical stuff.

I tapped the power line to the injection pump's shutoff solenoid to provide power to a Bosch relay which provided power to the system.

That way the system gets power at the same time as the injection pump.

Wiring the controller in was straightforward as the wires are color-coded and the instructions very clear.

Lucky for me there were unused plastic plugs on my dashboard, I popped out three and strapped the controller body in.

After final checking, the whole thing worked on the 1st try.

Dvldoc - kudos on the MAF sensor, I was wondering if it might not respond on as small an engine as mine, but I got good signal right away and in fact had to set it (the start dial) midway (about 3.0) so that it didn't start delivery on idle.

In fact right now it starts my delivery just off idle.

Setting the Full dial was another matter altogether.

On a test drive, I had it set to maximum (about 4.9) and from Fairview to Ateneo, I didn't really see much change.

I stopped at the Ateneo parking lot and popped the hood, touched the intake pipe but it was as hot as everything else - no delivery apparently.

So I reset the Full dial to 3.7 and on the drive back the engine bogged down, hmm - way too much delivery, way too early (and this on a D01 nozzle too!).

Pulled over in a gas station and checked my pipe, it was cool to the touch - now there was definite delivery!

Reset the dial to 4.1 and drove home, still some bogging - still too much delivery...

This is gonna take a while.

Best Regards,

Dusky Lim

[dvldoc]

You might want to reduced the pumps pressure, There is a hex screw on the top of the pump, Turn it counter clockwise to reduce the overall pressure, I would turn your full point on max then tweek it from there.

You can also add a diode to lower the voltage on the output wire on the MAF sensor as well this would be like reducing the nozzle size to the controller. Put like a 4.3V Zener Diode inline with the green wire.

[dvldoc]

[duskylim]

Dear DevilDoc:

Thanks again for the prompt advice, can't wait to try out your suggestions.

Best Regards,

Dusky Lim

[dvldoc]

More reason diesels benefit from water/alcohol injection. Don't believe me about how much soot is built up in your engine take it to your local mechanic.

Here are some pics from a VW 1.9 TDI motor, If you think your internals look any better at 60,000k you should think again especially with the extreamly low quality diesel you guys have there.






Anouther example 2003 VW no water injection around 68,000 miles on the motor



Customer with a 2002 VW 1.9TDI same motor as above doing a turbo upgrade running alcohol injection since 2006. I know what I want my motor to look like. And like I said if you don't believe it take it to the shop and tell them you want to get your intake cleaned out. Your not going to be happy with what comes out of there. If anyone can tell me the benefits of a dirty soot filled intake, EGR passageway, valves, combustion chambers, I would like to really here it.

1000P your motor is no were near this clean.

[dvldoc]

More reason diesels benefit from water/alcohol injection. Don't believe me about how much soot is built up in your engine take it to your local mechanic.

Here are some pics from a VW 1.9 TDI motor, If you think your internals look any better at 60,000k you should think again especially with the extreamly low quality diesel you guys have there.









Anouther example 2003 VW no water injection around 68,000 miles on the motor



Customer with a 2002 VW 1.9TDI same motor as above doing a turbo upgrade running alcohol injection since 2006. I know what I want my motor to look like. And like I said if you don't believe it take it to the shop and tell them you want to get your intake cleaned out. Your not going to be happy with what comes out of there. If anyone can tell me the benefits of a dirty soot filled intake, EGR passageway, valves, combustion chambers, I would like to really here it.

1000P your motor is no were near this clean.

[duskylim]

Dear Fellow Tsikoteers:

Finally got the set-up on the progressive kit right. To wit:

It has the DO1 nozzle fitted just behind the MAF sensor and a progressive stage II kit at the 2-bar setting.

On cold start ups, I set the START dial to 3.4 until the engine warms up and goes off fast idle, (the PUMP light doesn't even blink at this setting), then,

After the temperature gauge reaches the mid way mark (engine fully warmed up) I dial it down to 3.0, unless it gets really hot, then I set it to 2.8.

At that setting on curb idle, the PUMP light flashes intermittently at low brightness, and you can hear the pump come on.

The setting for the FULL dial is at the 4.7 hash mark (which is between the 4.5 and 4.9 settings), apparently the engine can't take a higher ramp rate.

The engine is smoother and the acceleration is more solid and firm throughout, the water-meth consumption is very small, I have burned off less than 1 liter for more 20 liters of diesel - great savings using the progressive kit.

Initially I was afraid of using too much mix, so I babied it, especially during engine braking and while decelerating but then I found out the performance off the line improved if I allowed the system to cool the engine down while slowing down so now I don't shift it into neutral and coast as much.

Performance continues to improve as I use it. Economy is pretty much the same given the relatively low water-meth consumption rate.

In fact I lost more mix to sloshing and spillage than I am consuming through the pump, and I had to fit a flapper valve to the vent hole I drilled to stop this.

So a word of advice when drilling the vent hole in the water-meth tank - what you want is a pinhole gentlemen, nothing larger.

In my opinion the progressive kit will pay for itself vs the ordinary kit in water meth savings alone. I would recommend however that you get a MAF sensor too, the degree of control over the injection is awesome.

Question for DevilDoc, hey bilal, I read in Diesel Power that Snow Performance is starting to mix 70-75% methanol vs H20 in the mix, whats your opinion of this?

Best Regards,

Dusky Lim

[dvldoc]

We use all the way up to 100% methanol on certain vehicles but you can't do that on Diesels, Boom goes the head gasket especially on turbo diesels.

Gas engines can run any mix. The stuff snow sells is 49% methanol, it's illegal to sell it and ship it in any higher concentration than that. We sell our own two called the devils brew

Few things will improve how a diesel performs better than water/alcohol injection. The system pays for itself in the engine cleaning alone, the extra performance and lower emissions is just a bonus.

[dvldoc]

The old devil at work. Looks like it's catching on