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    Good turnout today, We'll let everyone post up their thoughts and opinions of the kits. But heres some numbers to wet your pallet. We'll post up more later cause right now I am dead tired.

    Izuzu Crosswind 0-40MPH 18.28 seconds system off
    0-40mph 12.27 system off. Can you say hauling butt. This is a 2.5 non intercooled vehicle. The top end was much improved as well. It struggeled to get to 80kph once the kit was activated you were running out of road and screaming past 100kph. We'll let the owner post his opinions. But the vehicle gained a easy 30% increase in power. This vehicle went from a meager 78hp to 101hp with no other changes on 35% methanol and the rest water.

    Same for Starex we installed a kit on, You notice the chance in pitch of the engine then it just pulls like there is no tomorrow. The harder you hit it the more it gives you. Take not the engine temp dropped about 25 degres over from his normal operating temp. We only used a M2 nozzle on this and determined it could use more so we are going to 3gph for the dyno.

    The pre turbo injection yields the greatest gains, It makes your small turbo perform like a bigger turbo and you feel the boost come on much faster and much more of it. You can pretty much scap the top mount intercooler because it is only hurting your vehicles performance due to the heat soak.

    We'll let our favorite Isuzu tell you his performance gains and the massive exhaust gas temperature drops since he has a gauge mounted in the vehicle.

    All in all a great day.

    Please post your opinions and comments for all who attended. It was great to meet everyone and I hope you found it very informative and you see it's a product that delivers every bit of power that is claimed. We'll be doing a dyno of the starex hopefully on Tuesday if not that vehicle we'll do the isuzu trooper.

    One of the biggest things you'll notice is your top end is almost unstopable you don't overheat and the boost stays strong the entire time no matter how long or how hard you beat on the car all the while your engine temps are running lower.

    We will also be doing a emissions test to show you what we mean by how much it reduces emissions.

    On the stick shift vehicles it was pretty hard to get good numbers on HP do to the slow shifting. I'll be in the PI until the 30th so please feel free to ask questions or PM me.

    If your going to do something for your vehicle do something that works. Speedlab will be carring the kits soon as well as be a installer so look for that soon.

    Lets here from out guest. (i'll put some pics up later)

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    Thank You Devildoc for the gifts and prices.

    After we replaced the M7 to an M3 the engine performed powerfully and more smoothly. With 35/65 alchohol mixture the engine exhibited cooler EGTs and a good kick.

    The trip home is where I really tested its acceleration. It speeds up faster and the EGT either shoots down or maintains its temperature more longer than without the injection. Im not saying its super fast but it accelerates smoothly and more colder in the combustion chamber based on my EGT gauge. I think the reason the temp lowers is the 65% water while the meth gives the increase acceleration.

    For the price and simplicity of operation and cost of fuel (meth and water) I would rate the device 9 (ten being highest). If it was free I would rate it 10.

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    Nice meeting you all guys!
    Again thank you dvldoc for the prices, especially I won the kit, what else I can ask more ... can't wait to get this installed in my ride. Felt the rush when it was tested on my Crosswind XUVi today (3/22/2008). The Crosswind XUVI A/T with 4JA1-L engine performance is not one of those fast ride known to tsikoteers, but with the Water/Alcohol Injection tested today (I believe used with 35/65 mix), jeeez can't believed it just pulls harder, and harder and faster.

    The improvement is very much noticeable at the top end... with the system turned off the acceleration at 60kph going above is slow, but with the system turned on, the performance from 60kph and beyond is a lot quicker. The gain in speed is gradual, but definitely its noticeable. Imagine that 5 sec drop at 0-40mph as logged by dvldoc's accelerometer.

    In the meantime... will be working on soon to install the kit. Good job to the kit.
    Last edited by 20vanda01; March 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 PM.

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    As promised you get the results we advertise unlike alot of product I've seen sold here. The only down side of the kit is when you get on the highway, if you get a ticket for speeding it's not our fault

    Dyno should go done Thursday for the Starex and emission testing.

    I will be making one change to the kits due to what we learned today. Some of the older vehicles like the starex build boost very slow and it takes a while to get to the turn on point so we are going to make the 4cyl turbo diesel kit with only the 2-10 psi switch which will cover all vehicles. The trooper had no problems hitting 6psi of boost pretty fast but the older starex stuggled to get there once it did it went from a brick to a turbocharged vehicle like it should be. I still have 3 other kits to get out this week so you will have more testimonials soon.

    Once you get past having the extra power and not speeding you will see some nice fuel savings because it will now take less throttle to go the same speed.

    On the quick connect kit I brought for testing it also had a on off toggle while crusing at 80kph on the Crosswind we turned off the kit and the vehicle immediatly begain to decelerate with no change in throttle.

    Turning the system back on at 80kph the vehicle immediatly begain to accerate on it's on with no change in throttle. This is the horsepower increase your getting pushing the vehicle on. It actually started to creep up to 87kph. should have took a video of that on. But he can post up his personal testing after he has it re-installed on the vehicle.

    One thing is you can't help but smile when you do that first full out run and discover how your vehicle can actually now perform. I could not imagine driving a vehicle that struggled to 80kph on the highway.

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    OT: I'm still trying to figure out how can I free up some space in the Crosswind's engine bay to allow the installation of the water/mixture alcohol tank. I'm thinking of converting my air filter similar to 4JGtootsie's setup.

    4JGtootsie, where did you have your air filter customized?

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    Happy Easter guys, yeah I know the date stamp is wrong lol





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    Quote Originally Posted by 20vanda01 View Post
    OT: I'm still trying to figure out how can I free up some space in the Crosswind's engine bay to allow the installation of the water/mixture alcohol tank. I'm thinking of converting my air filter similar to 4JGtootsie's setup.

    4JGtootsie, where did you have your air filter customized?
    Napapa English tayo dahil kay Devildoc.

    I just did it myself. What you will need is a 45 degree tube and a filter that will fit it. You can buy ready made with cone filters but you have to cut it to size. Where you put the angle is very important so you can direct where your filter will point/stay. When you remove the OEM filter and resonator, the space will be bigger and positioning everything will be easier. If you can find a windshield washer container which is fender mounted (driver side) then it will much easier and spacious. The bigger the better.

    Yung container ko 4 liters ubos na pagdating ng QC, patay sindi pa ako. Para ngang may lift-off switch ako. I only turn it on pag overtaking at straight aways. Your limitation is the amount of water meth you have and how to conserve until you reach destination.

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    Damnit.... won't be able to go! Forgot I was supposed to attend a wedding in Cavite. I might make it back in the afternoon... just asked Ferman to hold my kits for me...

    I really wanted to see how it would go with my naturally aspirated build... Will still try to send one Crosswind for testing.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Dang I was looking forward to meeting you. Sids and I plan on doing a Mazda N/A install on Saturday. And tweek it with the Unichip to add timing ect. Should squeeze some nice power out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Dang I was looking forward to meeting you. Sids and I plan on doing a Mazda N/A install on Saturday. And tweek it with the Unichip to add timing ect. Should squeeze some nice power out of it.
    Well, we can make a life size card board cut-out of Niky so you won't miss him that much. hehehe!
    Last edited by ghosthunter; May 29th, 2008 at 04:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Dang I was looking forward to meeting you. Sids and I plan on doing a Mazda N/A install on Saturday. And tweek it with the Unichip to add timing ect. Should squeeze some nice power out of it.
    Can i volunteer my altis as test vehicle?

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    i just want to see how big a gain for N/A gas engines. thanks!

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    1. ghosthunter (depending on circumstances, like work)
    2. aamd
    3. SaberRider (baka magpa proxy, may Board Meeting)
    4.bigMIKE (wl work around schedule)
    5. dusky lim (will try to be early as you have my progressive kit, ready for install?)
    6.buhawi (just paid for the kit this morning so see you all next week)
    7. niky (obviously... )
    8. userfriendly
    9.cougar87
    10.4JG2-TC
    11.Dieseldude(interested and will try to come)

    See you tomorrow!

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    That would take too much cardboard. Hahaha...

    Anyway... will try to catch up... wedding isn't too far out... just around GMA, so I might be able to make lunch, but I wouldn't count on it.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Sabi ni Ferman, stage one kit palang yun.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    sir dvldoc, what about vehicles with boost compensator in the injection pump? any chances of water mixing into those tiny vac-sized hose routed to the pumps?

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    Under normal circumstances there shouldn't be.

    Btw,

    Devil's Own Alcohol Injection systems available again.
    Just give SpeedLab a ring at 376-4648/51.
    Unfortunately, $ exchange rates now necessitate a slightly higher price.
    However, the first 10 Tsikot.com forumer's who sign up below will still be able to acquire it at the old prices.
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    other fine Speedlab install on a 2000 Pajero with the 4M40 engine. Notice the slick intake pipe, They can make these custom for you, These guys can weld, They should start making aluminum tanks :thumbsup:






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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto_Xer View Post
    Under normal circumstances there shouldn't be.
    ok sir, how about those boost compensator inlets that are very near to the intake chambers?

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    The water/alcohol comes out a very high pressure and at around 10 microns, And small amount is going to evaporate inside the motor after it has mixed with the incoming air and touched the surrounding metals. Nozzle location plays a big part of it as well. If a few micro grams of water is a worry for you place the nozzle close to the intake like pictured in the Pajero. 99% of the injection is going to go to the individual intake runners and combustion chambers.

    Remember this has been in use on modern turbo diesels in the US for almost 15 years. It's tested and proven to have no down sides. If you take apart your engine parts the only thing they will be is clean.

    We have never seen in injector pump or any other engine component effected by the system on any vehicle of any year.

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