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    #181
    I think you're right sir. makes my worry go away 100%. thanks

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    #182
    I'll have the full dyno numbers shortly. As you guys know already the automatics do to the power increase down low do not allow for accurate dyno numbers due to the fact the vehicle will shift out of 2nd gear do to the power increase so we test from 2500rpms to 3000rpms and up. Looks like the DO2 nozzle was a better choose for this vehicle because it made more power with less, Add a boost controller than it would be a different story. But still a 23.9% increase even at 4000rpms is pretty good. The 1500rpm to 3000rpm numbers will be much higher as they always are. Driving on the street is like having a new motor. Should have the full color ones tomorrow plus the TQ chart, Almost 210lbs even at 4000rpms. Remember when It comes to results were the only ones that can back it up time after time.

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    #183
    Torque numbers.

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    #184
    Another monster on the streets.



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    #185
    Sir dvloc, do you have fuel consumption data of actual run using wmi(before and after installation)? im also interested installing this to my yd25ddti engine if FC returns reasonable. thanks.

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    #186
    Heres your average, if you increase your engine power by 10% you will get around 5% better fuel economy, increase it by 15% around 8.5% better fuel economy, increase it 20% around 10%, Increase it around 25% around 12.5 to 15% and increase it 30% your savings will be well around 15% or more. This is just a average and every vehicle is different and everything depends on vehicle, and driving style.

    There has not been a turbo diesel there that has not picked up at least 20% more power.

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    #187
    Do you have the kit's equivalent for gas engine? Thanks.

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    #188
    Quote Originally Posted by hlintiaco View Post
    Do you have the kit's equivalent for gas engine? Thanks.
    Kits are universal they work on gas and diesel, The majority of our stateside customers are gas engines.

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    #189
    Topgear article on the Hilux with the devilsown kit.

    http://www.topgear.com.ph/feature/gin_is_green.html

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    #190
    Ranger install. Beat down a [SIZE=2]Nissan Novara on the highway like they were standing still. [/SIZE]





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    #191
    dvldoc if I use gin which is 50% by vol instead of methanol, do I still need to mix it with water? I have added a pre turbo 1gpm nozzle by myself and the torque increase was really great. I don't need to rev up past 2500 rpm now just to get that extra kick if I need the speed.

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    #192
    Since you added the pre-turbo nozzle you can probably water down your mix to 30% and still get a around the same performance. But no you do not have to water down off the shelf alcohols like Gin or Vodka they are already ready to run strait out the bottle.

    Do remember you can use Denatured alcohol as well as Ethyl alcohol which are basically the same thing, Denatured is just poisoned with around 10% methanol so you don't drink it. The Grocery and pharmacy's sell 500ml bottle fo Ethly alcohol for like 50P. You can also use isoproply alcohol as well. You could pour your left over San Mig in the tank and it will work just as well lol.

    The pre-turbo nozzle give awesome gains in performance, The only thing that will equal it is buying a larger turbo. Your making the smaller turbo perform like a larger more efficient one. Plus the 120F to 150F outlet temperature drop really helps the turbo live a long long life.

    As more and more vehicle install these systems they will realize the other benefits just besides the horsepower gains.

    If you guys can post your next emission test that would good stuff to show everyone. We can pretty much Guarentee around a 70% reduction in your last emission test with just 20% alcohol.

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    #193
    Nissan Terrano TD27 Install






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    #194
    devildoc, already installed the kit, proud to say i did it myself Actually enjoyed installing the kit
    I will post some pictures soon..
    But i have one concern though, every time there is delivery, there is also a change in engine sound. I am hearing some sort of a rattling sound. Is this normal? By the way, im using denatured alcohol straight, no dilution with water.
    I can feel the surge in power each time the kit kicks in, I opted for a post turbo install and contemplating of a dual nozzle set up. Im currently using a 3gp nozzle. My ride is an isuzu 2.8 AT.
    TIA

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    #195
    Quote Originally Posted by wayward View Post
    devildoc, already installed the kit, proud to say i did it myself Actually enjoyed installing the kit
    I will post some pictures soon..
    But i have one concern though, every time there is delivery, there is also a change in engine sound. I am hearing some sort of a rattling sound. Is this normal? By the way, im using denatured alcohol straight, no dilution with water.
    I can feel the surge in power each time the kit kicks in, I opted for a post turbo install and contemplating of a dual nozzle set up. Im currently using a 3gp nozzle. My ride is an isuzu 2.8 AT.
    TIA
    Just checking one thing, you installed the nozzle correctly right? People have put it in backwards. But assuming you did install everything as it should be sounds like your injecting to much to soon. Normally caused by to much alcohol, Not all vehicles run well on 50/50. There is no magic number just know never to go above 50/50. I would raise your start point slightly and reduce your alcohol to about 15% and play with it from there.

    The engine will always change pitch when the kit kicks in. But should not be a rattle,

    Here's some good facts about alcohol and why less is more depending on which one your using.

    Those Izuzu, Ford and Mazda engines seem to pick up the most power for some reason on vehicles with no electronics. I remember the 2.5 liter Crosswind we road tested earlier this year. Dropped over 6 seconds off it's 0 to 100kph times.

    [SIZE=1]Water -- Oxygen content 0% (ignoring dissolved oxygen) Latent heat of Vaporization 2259.197 KJ/kg . K = 539.6 BTU/lb . F [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1]Methanol -- Oxygen content 49.9% by wt, latent heat of vaporization 1099.45 KJ/Kg . K = 262.6 BTU/lb . F [/SIZE]
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    Ethanol ----- Oxygen content 34.7% by wt, latent heat of vaporization 854.62 KJ/kg . K = 204.1 BTU/lb . F
    [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=1]Isopropyl --C3H8O--- Oxygen content 26.66% by wt, latent heat of vaporization 666.7 KJ/kg . K = 159.24 BTU/lb . F [/SIZE]


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    #196
    Maybe because these engines are the most inefficient? My alcohol installation is almost done... I think Speedlab is installing a 1gph on our Crosswind 4JA1T.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #197
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Maybe because these engines are the most inefficient? My alcohol installation is almost done... I think Speedlab is installing a 1gph on our Crosswind 4JA1T.
    I don't know if you remember but the Crosswind from the first event there dropped 6 seconds off it's 0-100kph times with the M2. I would go with this for the best performance from the vehicle. That's a easy 40% increase in power to drop that kind of time off of it's time. You will still get good power with the D01 nozzle just not as much. Still a easy 20% to 25% gain in HP.

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    #198
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    I don't know if you remember but the Crosswind from the first event there dropped 6 seconds off it's 0-100kph times with the M2. I would go with this for the best performance from the vehicle. That's a easy 40% increase in power to drop that kind of time off of it's time. You will still get good power with the D01 nozzle just not as much. Still a easy 20% to 25% gain in HP.
    Damn, it was a 2? Ok... I'll let Sids know. They didn't finish... just talked to him... I forgot I told them to postpone because I needed the car (turns out, had another service vehicle available)... will check on Monday... hmmm... dyno numbers...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #199
    any experience with a Hyundai Starex CRDi 06? where can i purchase and install?

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    #200
    You can go to speedlab in QC for the kit and install. www.speedlab.com.ph

    Common rail engines will pick up the most power, The Starex being one of the highest factory rated Turbo diesels around will easily and I mean easily pick up 30hp to 50hp depending on nozzle size and mix. A DO3 nozzle will get you in that HP range. A DO4 will be close to 50 to 60hp but consumption will be high.

    But if you just want around 25hp to 30hp the 2gph nozzle will work well. The proven best combo is the DO1 pre-turbo and DO3 or DO2 nozzle at the intake.

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