Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[istan]

Shift to N, pull the hand brake.

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[Jun aka Pekto]

i don't know about the new P, but in my old P,
at P, and i get bumped from behind, the P brake might break.
so i put it in N, then put on my handbrake.

i use P when there's little danger of getting bumped from behind, e.g., garahe.

Here where I am, stoplights all over town have a consistent sequence of which lane or lanes get the green light. When there is construction going on, it can take a long time before we get the green light. There is also no turn on red. In my case, I don't consider getting out of Park until I see at least, the left turns start for the cross traffic because I know my lane is next. The driver behind me is probably expecting the same sequence of events. He's not going to move forward even if I put my car on Park and the brake lights turn off. People have enough common sense to see the traffic isn't moving regardless of whether the brake lights are on or off.

[Jun aka Pekto]

I guess you have your reasons. But these are my reasons why I shift to N instead of P under similar circumstances:

1. N is just a notch from D. P is 3 notches away.
2. You will pass through R when shifting from D to P and back, which makes the transmission momentarily engage the R clutches twice. I perceive this as unnecessary wear
3. Finally, and it has already been mentioned, you could accidentally end up in R when you meant to be in a ‘safe’ gear (P or N).

It's not hard to go between P and D on sedans because both are at the ends.

On SUV/CUV vehicles, there is usually 1 and/or 2 after D with P and the numbered gear(s) at the end. In the case of my wife's Nissan Rogue, there is a 1 after D.

Whenever I change gears, I always look to make sure I get the right gear regardless of whether I'm in a sedan or CUV. I don't treat an AT like a manual gear box. So, the chance for a mistaken gear is very low.

[yapoy86]

It's not hard to go between P and D on sedans because both are at the ends.

On SUV/CUV vehicles, there is usually 1 and/or 2 after D with P and the numbered gear(s) at the end. In the case of my wife's Nissan Rogue, there is a 1 after D.

Whenever I change gears, I always look to make sure I get the right gear regardless of whether I'm in a sedan or CUV. I don't treat an AT like a manual gear box. So, the chance for a mistaken gear is very low.

Still D - N is one notch or say click.. rather than doing 3 clicks from time to time... also use the hand or foot brakes!

Im not sure but i think most AT system allow you to shift from N - D without touching the lock mechanism.. or even without stepping on the brakes.. going to gear R - 2 - 1 and P requires stepping on the brakes or pressing the shift lock

So its important to learn the locking system of your AT transmission.. that is one of the faults in the design.of mitsubishi montero.. no locking system..

Also i have observed seasoned drivers rest their hands on the gear shift.. this is very dangerous as sudden brake or bumps and you accidentally shift the gear in the wrong position.

[xnxnxn]

I do the shift to N then hand brake.


But I think *Pekto's habit is quite common.
It also scares the hell out of me when the car ahead's rear/backing light lit's up when the traffic starts moving when they shift P>R>N>D ..

[Jun aka Pekto]

I do the shift to N then hand brake.


But I think *Pekto's habit is quite common.
It also scares the hell out of me when the car ahead's rear/backing light lit's up when the traffic starts moving when they shift P>R>N>D ..

C'mon. I know how people drive over there. You shouldn't ride the bumper of the car in front of you when stopped in traffic. Here where I am, look how far other motorists keep apart, both when moving and when stopped. It's no problem for the driver behind me when I shift back to D so long as my car doesn't start moving backward.

[oj88]

C'mon. I know how people drive over there. You shouldn't ride the bumper of the car in front of you when stopped in traffic. Here where I am, look how far other motorists keep apart, both when moving and when stopped. It's no problem for the driver behind me when I shift back to D so long as my car doesn't start moving backward.

“Give someone an inch and they’ll take a mile”. That’s the reality here. You still keep a reasonably safe distance but not too much so as to encourage the vehicle besides you to improperly squeeze into your lane or queue.

In a somewhat related note, during my biker days some 14 years ago, I was in a group of big bikes in a zigzag formation. This formation allows the pack to be elastic and provide ample safety distance in front, behind and on the side of each biker for sudden stops and obstruction avoidance. Uncouth bikers took the free space around me as an invite to overtake. All I can do is slow down and give him the space. It’s an a-hole move but that’s how it is here.

[jvnj]

“Give someone an inch and they’ll take a mile”. That’s the reality here. You still keep a reasonably safe distance but not too much so as to encourage the vehicle besides you to improperly squeeze into your lane or queue.

In a somewhat related note, during my biker days some 14 years ago, I was in a group of big bikes in a zigzag formation. This formation allows the pack to be elastic and provide ample safety distance in front, behind and on the side of each biker for sudden stops and obstruction avoidance. Uncouth bikers took the free space around me as an invite to overtake. All I can do is slow down and give him the space. It’s an a-hole move but that’s how it is here.

+1 on this. Even on the highways (Expressways), keeping your 1-2 vehicle distance from your front only gives opportunity to idiot drivers for them to squeeze in. You have to adjust again for safety, then another idiot squeezes in again. That is why it forces me sometimes to break that safe distance as idiot drivers irritates me "Its more fun in the Philippines, indeed!"

[dr. d]

+1 on this. Even on the highways (Expressways), keeping your 1-2 vehicle distance from your front only gives opportunity to idiot drivers for them to squeeze in. You have to adjust again for safety, then another idiot squeezes in again. That is why it forces me sometimes to break that safe distance as idiot drivers irritates me "Its more fun in the Philippines, indeed!"

you prefer almost-tailgating to proper safe distance?
just so's hindi sila maka-singit?
isn't that... dangerous?

for me, "sumingit na kayo, wag lang tayo mag-miting ng fender".
heh heh.

[jvnj]

you prefer almost-tailgating to proper safe distance?
just so's hindi sila maka-singit?
isn't that... dangerous?

for me, "sumingit na kayo, wag lang tayo mag-miting ng fender".
heh heh.

No dr. d., not exactly tailgating, at least "2 inch" less a car distance from the front , just to discourage that irritating driver

But you're right, not worth it.