Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

**GTi** · September 7th, 2018 10:13 PM

I have not had the pleasure of driving a modern CRDi MT. Puro AT na kasi ang binibili. [emoji28]

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**timming_gear** · September 7th, 2018 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by GTi

Well, since mechanically exactly the same lang naman ang 2.5 na Innova at Fortuner, sa sasakyan lang niya talaga ang problema. Factory defect kaya?

I have driven 2 MT cars to Baguio. Both are considered "makupad" cars. There's the Revo diesel and also an Isuzu IPV. Makupad sa highway pero hinding hindi ako ipinahiya sa akyatan. Never even had to turn off A/C. So really, I'd say a vehicle with 80hp or so can already confidently go up to Baguio via Kennon Road, still with aircon on, at a brisk pace. [emoji38]

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Yes nkakapag taka lang Bakit naging pare parehas sila ng naging experience sa manual na fortuner iniisip ko Na lang din nag kataon driver Error pero By that time pabili ako ng fortuner imbis na M/T kukuhanin ko bigla automatic ang nailabas ko dahil sa mga kwento nila [emoji23][emoji39]

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**GTi** · September 7th, 2018 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by timming_gear

Yes nkakapag taka lang Bakit naging pare parehas sila ng naging experience sa manual na fortuner iniisip ko Na lang din nag kataon driver Error pero By that time pabili ako ng fortuner imbis na M/T kukuhanin ko bigla automatic ang nailabas ko dahil sa mga kwento nila [emoji23][emoji39]

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From what I hear, the gearing of the 2KD MT also isn't very good for high speeds with much higher rpm at 100 than the 4AT despite the additional gear. Though I suppose acceleration and fuel efficiency will still go to the manual.

Medyo nasanay na kami sa fuel consumption. Both the Granvia (3.0 4AT) and Carnival (2.9 5AT) get 4+km/L in city driving. [emoji24] I remember the Revo does 7+km/L even in the worst traffic conditions. 8-9 even, if traffic lets up, and that is pure city driving.

In terms of ease of maintenance, I say the AT has already surpassed the MT. In terms of performance, for the most part almost there na with the AT getting more gears and better manumatic function. In terms of fuel consumption... Kelan kaya? [emoji23]

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**Alexxmarcuzz** · September 8th, 2018 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by timming_gear

pero nkakapag taka iisa sila ng scenario. Yung isang fortuner na actual ko literal na walang power. As in kahit pagalitin yung rev sabay bitaw ng clutch walang power umaatras lang sa ahunan kaya nilalagyan pa ng Kalso.

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Sir baka hindi naman po gamay sa baguio? If ever naman po, merong naman mga video sa youtube na pang uphill which is heel toe or using the handbrake. Very helpful po yan.

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**timming_gear** · September 8th, 2018 12:18 AM

Mataas nga Rpm M/T 2.1k Rpm * 100kph lalo na ang innova 2.5k rpm * 100kph But for Me battle and Tested na ang Kd Series Engine ng Toyota kaya ok lang kahit malakas sa Diesel. [emoji108][emoji28]

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**montro** · September 8th, 2018 12:19 AM

If Baguio hirap na, what for kung sagada pa na makitid pa ang daan uphill.

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**GTi** · September 8th, 2018 12:25 AM

Pero yung mga drivers ng Hiace na rental vans kala mo mga Takumi Fujiwara sa Initial D! 2KD + MT din mga yun ah, most likely with twice as many passengers as a Fortuner or Innova can seat plus baggage. They go to Sagada in droves!

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**suysuy** · September 8th, 2018 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by GTi

Pero yung mga drivers ng Hiace na rental vans kala mo mga Takumi Fujiwara sa Initial D! 2KD + MT din mga yun ah, most likely with twice as many passengers as a Fortuner or Innova can seat plus baggage. They go to Sagada in droves!

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Nakasakay ako sa ganyang vans going to sagada. Magaling ang driver. Hindi takot mag rev. Kaya always spooled ang turbo.

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**playplugg** · September 8th, 2018 12:29 AM

MT, AT, CVT, DCT..

As long as na properly driven, hindi abusive sa transmission at properly maintained..

Hindi issue yan, lalo kung uphill/downhill lalo kung merong load factor..

Sa MT, basta hindi clutch driver or 2nd gear ang starting...

Sa AT/CVT/DCT.. basta once na naka-stop, from D, ilagay sa N or P..

tatagal ang transmission...

**essjei55** · September 8th, 2018 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by GTi

Pero yung mga drivers ng Hiace na rental vans kala mo mga Takumi Fujiwara sa Initial D! 2KD + MT din mga yun ah, most likely with twice as many passengers as a Fortuner or Innova can seat plus baggage. They go to Sagada in droves!

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Familiarity sa road is a big difference pag dating sa elevated areas. You have the confidence to go all out. Wag lang bibigay preno kundi kaluluwa labas nila. [emoji23]

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