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    #141
    Good content by Ramon Bautista

    https://youtu.be/Ugz03USA4Js

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Paano yan FB marketplace?


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    Bakit red flag pag agent ang nagbebenta, preferred lagi owner seller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilbert1614fnt View Post
    Bakit red flag pag agent ang nagbebenta, preferred lagi owner seller?
    agents have only one objective: to make the most money from the sale.

    private owners may have other reasons besides profit...
    the new car is coming; i need garage space.
    i need money for down payment or other financial requirement, not necessarily cars.
    it's an old car; i want a new car.
    my family has special needs now. i need another car.
    basically, a private seller may be more amenable to discount than the bayan seller.
    also, some private sellers might be more honest with the condition of the car.

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    #144
    The best finds are from OCD enthusiasts moving on to another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilbert1614fnt View Post
    Bakit red flag pag agent ang nagbebenta, preferred lagi owner seller?

    Because ... more often than not ... they WILL rollback the odometer ... Plus it's highly unlikely that you can really get a good deal from agents ... they are used to negotiating daily with hagglers ...

    Buying direct from owner will give you a gauge as to how the car was driven and maintained ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    The best finds are from OCD enthusiasts moving on to another.

    Agree on this ... few and far between ... but if you're patient enough ... one will pop out every now and then ... and if you spot one ... don't low ball the price ... there was this mint condition W211 E280 a few weeks ago ... less than 20T kms ...
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    #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Because ... more often than not ... they WILL rollback the odometer ... Plus it's highly unlikely that you can really get a good deal from agents ... they are used to negotiating daily with hagglers ...

    Buying direct from owner will give you a gauge as to how the car was driven and maintained ...

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    Agree on this ... few and far between ... but if you're patient enough ... one will pop out every now and then ... and if you spot one ... don't low ball the price ... there was this mint condition W211 E280 a few weeks ago ... less than 20T kms ...
    Did you bite? That's a great find but I would prefer a pristine W124 any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Because ... more often than not ... they WILL rollback the odometer ... Plus it's highly unlikely that you can really get a good deal from agents ... they are used to negotiating daily with hagglers ...

    Buying direct from owner will give you a gauge as to how the car was driven and maintained ...

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    Agree on this ... few and far between ... but if you're patient enough ... one will pop out every now and then ... and if you spot one ... don't low ball the price ... there was this mint condition W211 E280 a few weeks ago ... less than 20T kms ...
    Not just odo back-rolling, one can bet fixes are done cheap, half-arsed, sketchy just to pass the potential buyer's ocular & road test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Not just odo back-rolling, one can bet fixes are done cheap, half-arsed, sketchy just to pass the potential buyer's ocular & road test.

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    which brings us to another point.
    in my opinion, most ordinary folks who want to buy used car, will fail the ocular and road tests.
    we simply do not know enough, to be good apprisers of used cars.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 10th, 2024 at 07:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    which brings us to another point.
    in my opinion, most ordinary folks who want to buy used car, will fail the ocular and road tests.
    we simply do not know enough, to be good apprisers of used cars.
    Grabbing sound, good value used cars w/ wear&tear to fix can be satisfying adventures for the handy. A good refresh gives one a new start on maintenance history. Trick is to do the math prior to purchase. A cheap used w/ stuff to take care might end up pricier than a pricey well kept 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Grabbing sound, good value used cars w/ wear&tear to fix can be satisfying adventures for the handy. A good refresh gives one a new start on maintenance history. Trick is to do the math prior to purchase. A cheap used w/ stuff to take care might end up pricier than a pricey well kept 1.

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    i agree.

    my default advice to used car buyers (not bayan sellers):
    buy the most expensive car you can honestly afford. it will probably cause you less headaches in the future.

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