"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[huzky]

you can PM sir jmpet baka meron pa siya. for me, wala naman kaso kahit nailipat sa aftermarket bottles, ang importante yung laman from orig bottle ililipat mo pa rin naman yan sa ibang bottle depende sa dilution mo. like mine from orig bottle, inililipat ko pa ulit sa 3 aftermarket bottles depende sa dilution at gamit. isang pang ONR regular wash, ONR clay lube at ONR quick detailer. I-label mo lang ng maayos para hindi ka malito.

Hi sir, thank you sa suggestion, though hindi ko alam kung anong main difference between ONR blue with green, other than price (mas mahal yung wash and wax) Tanong ko na rin po kung okay ba ung regimen ko: Wash > Clay > Kaio > KSG > Blackfire Wet Diamond > Collinite 845. thanks

[monty_GTV]

Hi sir, thank you sa suggestion, though hindi ko alam kung anong main difference between ONR blue with green, other than price (mas mahal yung wash and wax) Tanong ko na rin po kung okay ba ung regimen ko: Wash > Clay > Kaio > KSG > Blackfire Wet Diamond > Collinite 845. thanks

I'm using the blue ONR wash and shine, di ko pa nasubukan yung green na wash and wax. main difference I think is yung carnauba wax content niya. maganda yung regimen niyo sir, halos ganyan din ang sinusunod ko na steps except that I don't have 845. maganda yung BWD fav ko yan, if properly prepped yung paint surface ang dulas kapag nai-apply yung blackfire, saka yung shine more on the wet look shine. bagay lalo sa mga dark colors lalo na sa black paints.

[chronicle]

Ask ko lang kung anong magandang pangtanggal nang silicone sealant sa car surface without affecting the paint. Pudpod na daliri ko, and may mga tira tira pa rin eh.

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[huzky]

I'm using the blue ONR wash and shine, di ko pa nasubukan yung green na wash and wax. main difference I think is yung carnauba wax content niya. maganda yung regimen niyo sir, halos ganyan din ang sinusunod ko na steps except that I don't have 845. maganda yung BWD fav ko yan, if properly prepped yung paint surface ang dulas kapag nai-apply yung blackfire, saka yung shine more on the wet look shine. bagay lalo sa mga dark colors lalo na sa black paints.

Mas bago lang din siguro yung green hence may mga bagong formula, slight difference lang siguro pag drying na, during rinseless wash, eh slight buffing lang dahil sa carnauba. Patience lang ang kailangan dahil sa mga curing time na aantayin pero i plan to do it this week Grey metallic kasi sir ung akin, kaya excited na ako gamitin BFWD Thanks!

[monty_GTV]

Grey metallic kasi sir ung akin, kaya excited na ako gamitin BFWD Thanks!

btw, napansin ko sa routine mo parang redundant na yung KSG then mag BFWD ka pa kasi pareho lang silang sealant. pero kung sinisipag ka at matyaga ka maghintay sa curing time pwede pa rin naman but it saves you time kapag isa lang na type ng sealant gamitin mo. tapos ma-compare mo din ang difference ng dalawa in terms of durability and shine.

[red_one]

Hi sir, thank you sa suggestion, though hindi ko alam kung anong main difference between ONR blue with green, other than price (mas mahal yung wash and wax) Tanong ko na rin po kung okay ba ung regimen ko: Wash > Clay > Kaio > KSG > Blackfire Wet Diamond > Collinite 845. thanks

hindi ba too redundant, aside from magastos? they are all Last Step Products (LSP).

KAIO = Polish + Acrylic Sealant
KSG = Glaze + Acrylic Sealant
Blackfire WD = Sealant
Collinite 845 = Insulator Wax

the paint can only hold so much product. you only apply a thin layer of wax/sealant. once paint gets saturated, any excess product will just be removed during buffing. kaya nga most people consider layering of wax/sealant useless or with negligible effect. how much more if 4 LSPs ang i-layer mo?

i suggest try each product as stand-alone first, i.e.

Wash > Clay > KAIO > KSG
Wash > Clay > Finishing Polish > Blackfire WD
Wash > Clay > Finishing Polish > Collinite 845

[huzky]

Yup, pero yung iba po diba nag lalagay ng multiple coats ng KSG, siguro try ko na lang po ung suggestion nyo paisa isa ko ittry kung ano mas magandang result i like the protection of 845 din kasi sir, and yung bfwd for the "wet look" shine, thank yoy sa tips! Excess product will get removed during buffing actually makes sense, thank you sir

[shok]

Yup, pero yung iba po diba nag lalagay ng multiple coats ng KSG, siguro try ko na lang po ung suggestion nyo paisa isa ko ittry kung ano mas magandang result i like the protection of 845 din kasi sir, and yung bfwd for the "wet look" shine, thank yoy sa tips! Excess product will get removed during buffing actually makes sense, thank you sir

Para masubukan mo lahat in one shot, ibang combination sa engine hood, iba sa bubong at iba sa trunk. Para same environmental condition din sila. Matetest mo yung kintab at durability ng mga combinations. Or hatiin mo sa portions yung engine hood tapos iba ibang combinations ang gamitin mo.

[miko101130]

Yup, pero yung iba po diba nag lalagay ng multiple coats ng KSG, siguro try ko na lang po ung suggestion nyo paisa isa ko ittry kung ano mas magandang result i like the protection of 845 din kasi sir, and yung bfwd for the "wet look" shine, thank yoy sa tips! Excess product will get removed during buffing actually makes sense, thank you sir

dahil sa yung KSG ay acrylic in nature, its extremely adhesive and weather resistant... kaya siguro pwede siya i-layer.

[monty_GTV]

*sir huzky

agree with sir shok, you can follow his advise to try diffrent combinations in each panel. you may want to do,

roof - kaio > ksg (para durability against sa sikat ng araw)
hood - kaio > bfwd (para kitang-kita agad sa harap yung shine )
side panels - kaio > 845 (or put the 845 sa hood)

then compare after each wash and days/weeks past kung gaano katagal ang bawat combination. afterwhich kung madetermine mo gaano katagal ang proteksiyon, kahit anong combination ang gamitin mo alam mo na kung kelan ka ulit mag-re-apply.

[andrewnathaniel]

Gurus, maiba po ako. Ask ko lang po kung okay po ba ang regular wash, say at least once a week wash with car shampoo. Hindi po ba prone naman sa rust pag madalas hugasan? Thanks po.

[crosswind]

Gurus, maiba po ako. Ask ko lang po kung okay po ba ang regular wash, say at least once a week wash with car shampoo. Hindi po ba prone naman sa rust pag madalas hugasan? Thanks po.

I don't think so , siguro kung ang gamit mo ay acidic or acid water or
galing sa dagat siguro magrust yan at di mo naman ibababad sa tubig
yung deep scratch na nawala paint yun ang prone to rust

[Ginnova]

Yup, pero yung iba po diba nag lalagay ng multiple coats ng KSG, siguro try ko na lang po ung suggestion nyo paisa isa ko ittry kung ano mas magandang result i like the protection of 845 din kasi sir, and yung bfwd for the "wet look" shine, thank yoy sa tips! Excess product will get removed during buffing actually makes sense, thank you sir

you have some excellent products sir. KSG gives a very reflective look while BFWD will results to deep wet look ( on a properly prepped paint ). most of the time layering is done to ensure full coverage. but nothing beats a coating in terms of durabilily and water behavior. for those that do not have luxury of time applying waxes or sealant , coating is the way to go.

This is CQUK applied more the 6months ago.

[red_one]

Gurus, maiba po ako. Ask ko lang po kung okay po ba ang regular wash, say at least once a week wash with car shampoo. Hindi po ba prone naman sa rust pag madalas hugasan? Thanks po.

Quick answer is NO.

The purpose of your car paint is not only for aesthetics but to protect from rust as well. Ang pwedeng kalawangin ay exposed iron parts without anti-rust coating and without paint.

Iron + Sufficient Time, Oxygen and Water = Rust

[huzky]

Para masubukan mo lahat in one shot, ibang combination sa engine hood, iba sa bubong at iba sa trunk. Para same environmental condition din sila. Matetest mo yung kintab at durability ng mga combinations. Or hatiin mo sa portions yung engine hood tapos iba ibang combinations ang gamitin mo.

thanks sir! i think sa hood ko i test on different portions, thanks sir!

dahil sa yung KSG ay acrylic in nature, its extremely adhesive and weather resistant... kaya siguro pwede siya i-layer.

kaya sya pwde i layer sir, thanks!

*sir huzky

agree with sir shok, you can follow his advise to try diffrent combinations in each panel. you may want to do,

roof - kaio > ksg (para durability against sa sikat ng araw)
hood - kaio > bfwd (para kitang-kita agad sa harap yung shine )
side panels - kaio > 845 (or put the 845 sa hood)

then compare after each wash and days/weeks past kung gaano katagal ang bawat combination. afterwhich kung madetermine mo gaano katagal ang proteksiyon, kahit anong combination ang gamitin mo alam mo na kung kelan ka ulit mag-re-apply.

cge sir, ill try that, sana maging wet look tlga ung s BFWD, kelangan maganda preparation, kaya lang, wala akong polisher, clay lng haha :D

you have some excellent products sir. KSG gives a very reflective look while BFWD will results to deep wet look ( on a properly prepped paint ). most of the time layering is done to ensure full coverage. but nothing beats a coating in terms of durabilily and water behavior. for those that do not have luxury of time applying waxes or sealant , coating is the way to go.

This is CQUK applied more the 6months ago.

Thanks sir, ang ganda pala nyan CQUK, ganda ng beading! OT: Na receive ko na pala items sir thanks!

[monty_GTV]

cge sir, ill try that, sana maging wet look tlga ung s BFWD, kelangan maganda preparation, kaya lang, wala akong polisher, clay lng haha :D

ang polisher mo sir ay yung KAIO. you can reach naman a certain degree ng shine polishing by hand it needs extra effort lang, more elbow grease ika nga apply it in a small manageable areas para ma-maximize mo yung pag hand polish. like yung hood, you can divide it into 4 sections then you can polish and buff from one section to another.

[red_one]

Sealant or Carnauba Wax or Paint Coating -- What to Choose?

There is no universal solution to everyone’s needs and you need to decide what is best for you. The best product is the one that you enjoy and use often (or not so often as the case may be).

Sealants (Synthetic Wax)
- Last longer than carnauba wax. Typically lasts 4-6 months, with some even up to 12 months.
- Much easier to apply than carnauba wax. Some can even be applied in direct sunlight.
- Gives that slick, brilliant sparkle and hard-as-glass look.
- Excellent water beading or water sheeting property (depends on sealant design).
- The logical choice for daily drivers or busy detailers.

Recommendations:
- Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant (Premium durability and wet-look shine)
- Meguiar's Ultimate Wax (Long-lasting protection and deep, dark reflections)
- Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 (Most Popular)
- Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (Best shine and ease of use) (Acrylic-based)
- Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection (Slick finish and incredible depth)

Carnauba Wax
- Short lived protection. Melts and fades easily on hot days. Typically lasts 4-8 weeks.
- Usually harder to apply than sealants (synthetic wax).
- Gives that warm, deep, liquid look and shine that looks more natural.
- Beads water nicely, absorbs the acid content in rain, and hides minor swirls in the paint.
- The only choice for many enthusiasts and show car owners.

Recommendations:
- Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax (When price is no object, best in class)
- Zymol Concours Glaze (Amazing show car shine)
- Sonax Premium Class Carnauba Wax (Another premium level wax)
- P21S Concours Carnauba Wax (Most popular)
- Collinite’s Marque D’Elegance Carnauba Paste Wax #915 (Paint friendly, classic genuine carnauba formula)

Paint Coating
- Will not wash or wear off. Can last for 2 years or much longer.
- Provides a clear, hard coating that provides increased protection against the elements.
- Paint finish has to be properly prepared before application. Any blemish or contamination on the paint will be permanently locked in.
- Cannot be easily reapplied when slickness and protection begins to fade.
- The professional choice for permanent paint protection. No more waxing!

Recommendations:
- Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 (Lasts for the car's lifetime)
- GTechniq EXO Ultra Durable Hybrid Coating (Lasts up to 5 years)
- CarPro CQuartz and CQUK (Lasts up to 2 years)

Note: Coatings are scratch-resistant but they are not scratch-proof. Clear coat is far thicker than coatings.

Clear coat thickness = 38 to 63.5 microns (1.5-2.5 mils)
Coating thickness = 0.5 to 2 microns

[andrewnathaniel]

Quick answer is NO.

The purpose of your car paint is not only for aesthetics but to protect from rust as well. Ang pwedeng kalawangin ay exposed iron parts without anti-rust coating and without paint.

Iron + Sufficient Time, Oxygen and Water = Rust

I don't think so , siguro kung ang gamit mo ay acidic or acid water or
galing sa dagat siguro magrust yan at di mo naman ibababad sa tubig
yung deep scratch na nawala paint yun ang prone to rust

Thanks sir. Good to know. Akala ko kasi prone sa rust ang ganun kasi laging nababasa. Mali pala ako. thanks ulit gurus.

[huzky]

ang polisher mo sir ay yung KAIO. you can reach naman a certain degree ng shine polishing by hand it needs extra effort lang, more elbow grease ika nga apply it in a small manageable areas para ma-maximize mo yung pag hand polish. like yung hood, you can divide it into 4 sections then you can polish and buff from one section to another.

more elbow grease indeed, ang hirap pala i buff off ng ksg, delikado makapalan BFWD madili gamitin parang 845

[monty_GTV]

more elbow grease indeed, ang hirap pala i buff off ng ksg, delikado makapalan BFWD madili gamitin parang 845

manipis lang ang lagay ng KSG bro saka i-wipe off mo agad at huwag hayaan matuyo, else mahirapan ka alisin. so far wala naman ako naging problema sa KSG. pwede mo i-apply and buff panel by panel. spray QD rin sa buffing cloth mo kung may nalampasan ka at natuyo.