Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 3]

[Retz]

Which one are you using right now? I've not tested the durability of the Microtex Tire Black strenuously, but it seems to last about two weeks or so.

Actually, im using brands lile AutoGuard, A-Toy and Harry's I think. I have to apply the tire black every week to remain the shine and blackness of the tire. If there is a good product in the market that could make my tire blackness last long even though the shine would fade, it's okay. Problem with the products that im using right now, not only the shine fades pati ung blackness ng tire, pumuputi na.

Tried and tested na ba ang Microtex Tire Black? If the quality is same as Meguiars and Mothers in terms of long lasting black,I could give it a try.

[umi001]

Actually, im using brands lile AutoGuard, A-Toy and Harry's I think. I have to apply the tire black every week to remain the shine and blackness of the tire. If there is a good product in the market that could make my tire blackness last long even though the shine would fade, it's okay. Problem with the products that im using right now, not only the shine fades pati ung blackness ng tire, pumuputi na.

Tried and tested na ba ang Microtex Tire Black? If the quality is same as Meguiars and Mothers in terms of long lasting black,I could give it a try.

That's the clear gel that leaves a very shiny finish right? I'd throw that stuff away - it's solvent-based dressing, and will cause your tires to dry and crack over time. Microtex Tire Black is a water-based dressing which will not damage your tires - it isn't super shiny, but it does blacken the tires, given it a nice dark sheen, and lasts a couple of weeks. It's also cheaper than Mothers or Meguiar's. I've also heard good things about Mothers FX Tire Shine, again lasts a couple of weeks, though this is a bit more expensive (I think around twice the price, 200+ vs 400+). If you like the really shiny look, Meg's has a number of options, though they're all more expensive (from 600+ to over 1,000 pesos).

Oh, forgot to mention - the 200+ price is for a 500 ml bottle - I've seen the Microtex Tire Black in smaller sizes which would be less expensive, so it might be a good idea to give those a try first - if you don't like it, you've not spent all that much. Also, if you want a shinier look, you can apply a coat of the Microtex, let dry, then apply a second coat to add more gloss.

[Bin Diesel]

Wow! Ang galing! Hindi ko kaagad nakita yung kotse. Akala ko simpleng pathway lang.

Ano sasakyan mo?

Wow parang sa predator lang. Akala ko may gusto kang ipakita sa pathway ng bahay ninyo, kung di ko pa naaninag gulong di ko makikita yung kotse.

[Retz]

That's the clear gel that leaves a very shiny finish right? I'd throw that stuff away - it's solvent-based dressing, and will cause your tires to dry and crack over time. Microtex Tire Black is a water-based dressing which will not damage your tires - it isn't super shiny, but it does blacken the tires, given it a nice dark sheen, and lasts a couple of weeks. It's also cheaper than Mothers or Meguiar's. I've also heard good things about Mothers FX Tire Shine, again lasts a couple of weeks, though this is a bit more expensive (I think around twice the price, 200+ vs 400+). If you like the really shiny look, Meg's has a number of options, though they're all more expensive (from 600+ to over 1,000 pesos).



Oh, forgot to mention - the 200+ price is for a 500 ml bottle - I've seen the Microtex Tire Black in smaller sizes which would be less expensive, so it might be a good idea to give those a try first - if you don't like it, you've not spent all that much. Also, if you want a shinier look, you can apply a coat of the Microtex, let dry, then apply a second coat to add more gloss.

I already bought the Microtex. Will try it out this Sunday. Hopefully, I would get good result.

[Retz]

I was in the Manila Auto Salon earlier this afternoon and saw the Meguiar's booth. I inquired about their wax and polisher. The sales advisor told me that I should apply the polish first and then the wax to seal off the paint and the polisher completely. But the label on the Microtex Nanowax and Nanosliq tells us otherwise, you should wax it first (Nanowax) and the top coat would be the Nanosliq (polisher). Question is, which comes first? Wax or Polish? Quite confusing and im not a detailing expert myself.

[umi001]

I was in the Manila Auto Salon earlier this afternoon and saw the Meguiar's booth. I inquired about their wax and polisher. The sales advisor told me that I should apply the polish first and then the wax to seal off the paint and the polisher completely. But the label on the Microtex Nanowax and Nanosliq tells us otherwise, you should wax it first (Nanowax) and the top coat would be the Nanosliq (polisher). Question is, which comes first? Wax or Polish? Quite confusing and im not a detailing expert myself.

It's to do with varying terminology used by different companies. So, quick definition of terms first:

Compound - Highly abrasive product used to quickly cut through paint, for removal of deep scratches and etching.
Polish - Medium to light abrasive product (less aggressive than compounds). Used to remove swirls, light scratches, and hazing/marring left behind by compounding.
Glaze - Non-abrasive product. Used to temporarily fill in swirls and light scratches, as well as to add gloss and shine to the paint. Generally not very durable.
Wax/Sealant - Used for protection of paint from acid rain, oxidization, contamination, etc. Durability from a few weeks to months.
Spray Wax - Used to top up existing protection.
Quick Detailer - Used for light cleaning of paint (dust, fingerprints), as well as adding to shine, slickness and gloss.

Where the confusion comes in is that Meguiar's refers to products defined above as glazes, as (pure) polishes. On the other hand, the NanoSliq, despite whatever it reads in the ad material is a combination spray wax/quick detailer. So the products you mentioned above (making some assumptions) are:

Meguiar's (Deep Crystal) Polish - glaze
Meguiar's Ultimate Polish - polish
Meguiar's (Deep Crystal) Wax - wax
Meguiar's (Ultimate) Wax - wax
Microtex Nanoglos (wax) - wax
Microtex NanoSliq - spray wax/quick detailer

So, your order would be the polish to remove paint imperfections, glaze to add wetness, gloss and shine, wax to seal in the glaze, and then maintain using a spray wax/QD.

One other thing - some products contain what are called cleaners, which help remove contamination, as well as old wax and polish residue from the paint. These products generally cannot be put on top of another product, as they will just strip that prior product. NanoGlos contains some cleaners, so if you buy that, you cannot use it over any glaze or previous wax layer.

Hope that wasn't too confusing - do post if you need further clarification

[umi001]

I already bought the Microtex. Will try it out this Sunday. Hopefully, I would get good result.

Would certainly be interested in hearing your impressions

[Retz]

It's to do with varying terminology used by different companies. So, quick definition of terms first:

Compound - Highly abrasive product used to quickly cut through paint, for removal of deep scratches and etching.
Polish - Medium to light abrasive product (less aggressive than compounds). Used to remove swirls, light scratches, and hazing/marring left behind by compounding.
Glaze - Non-abrasive product. Used to temporarily fill in swirls and light scratches, as well as to add gloss and shine to the paint. Generally not very durable.
Wax/Sealant - Used for protection of paint from acid rain, oxidization, contamination, etc. Durability from a few weeks to months.
Spray Wax - Used to top up existing protection.
Quick Detailer - Used for light cleaning of paint (dust, fingerprints), as well as adding to shine, slickness and gloss.

Where the confusion comes in is that Meguiar's refers to products defined above as glazes, as (pure) polishes. On the other hand, the NanoSliq, despite whatever it reads in the ad material is a combination spray wax/quick detailer. So the products you mentioned above (making some assumptions) are:

Meguiar's (Deep Crystal) Polish - glaze
Meguiar's Ultimate Polish - polish
Meguiar's (Deep Crystal) Wax - wax
Meguiar's (Ultimate) Wax - wax
Microtex Nanoglos (wax) - wax
Microtex NanoSliq - spray wax/quick detailer

So, your order would be the polish to remove paint imperfections, glaze to add wetness, gloss and shine, wax to seal in the glaze, and then maintain using a spray wax/QD.

One other thing - some products contain what are called cleaners, which help remove contamination, as well as old wax and polish residue from the paint. These products generally cannot be put on top of another product, as they will just strip that prior product. NanoGlos contains some cleaners, so if you buy that, you cannot use it over any glaze or previous wax layer.

Hope that wasn't too confusing - do post if you need further clarification

You explained it very well. I think the confusion mainly lies on the NanoSliq. I thought it was a polisher (as it was advertised and the name implies). So it is clear that wax is the final coating and spray wax/quick detailer are use for maintaining the wax.

[Retz]

hi umi001, i noticed your profile photo. it looks like circular droplets of water in the car hood. is that the effect of a wax car?

[umi001]

hi umi001, i noticed your profile photo. it looks like circular droplets of water in the car hood. is that the effect of a wax car?

Yes, it's called beading - all waxes and sealants exhibit it, to a greater or lesser extent. A few larger shots (this is with Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid as my wax):

[cjv_justice]

hi umi001, i noticed your profile photo. it looks like circular droplets of water in the car hood. is that the effect of a wax car?

sir you should join in one of our detailing sessions and see this Yaris in person... wala ako masabi sa car ni umi. yan ang idol.

[amir1223]

I was in the Manila Auto Salon earlier this afternoon and saw the Meguiar's booth. I inquired about their wax and polisher. The sales advisor told me that I should apply the polish first and then the wax to seal off the paint and the polisher completely. But the label on the Microtex Nanowax and Nanosliq tells us otherwise, you should wax it first (Nanowax) and the top coat would be the Nanosliq (polisher). Question is, which comes first? Wax or Polish? Quite confusing and im not a detailing expert myself.

wax muna then polisher nman talaga di ba?ako after washing, turtle wax hard shell lang, tapos after curing, microtex nano gloss, then after curing nano gloss naman...so far, really satisfied with the results...sabi nga ng mga kapitbahay ko, ndi madapuan ng langaw kasi nadudulas sila pag dumapo...i think it depends also on your application to make the surface more glossy..

[Chikselog]

Quick questions mga sir, nasa magkano ang Auto Glym HD wax? Dito kasi 50% off yung 150ml (?) HD Wax, 2 Applicator Pads, 1 MF Towel. 94.50SGD lang (around 3.1k Php). Mura na ba yun? Show car wax ba ang HD Wax? Not meant for protection?

[Starex_Gold]

Quick questions mga sir, nasa magkano ang Auto Glym HD wax? Dito kasi 50% off yung 150ml (?) HD Wax, 2 Applicator Pads, 1 MF Towel. 94.50SGD lang (around 3.1k Php). Mura na ba yun? Show car wax ba ang HD Wax? Not meant for protection?

Ang mahal pala ng HD wax.

[umi001]

Quick questions mga sir, nasa magkano ang Auto Glym HD wax? Dito kasi 50% off yung 150ml (?) HD Wax, 2 Applicator Pads, 1 MF Towel. 94.50SGD lang (around 3.1k Php). Mura na ba yun? Show car wax ba ang HD Wax? Not meant for protection?

Bro 6.5k (!) yung AG HD dito - tipid na yan compared sa price here. AG HD is a good looking wax, but it's also a durable one - people in the UK use it for winter protection, and some reviews say it rivals the Collinites in durability.

[Chikselog]

Great! Kunin ko na ba? Hahaha heavy ang presyo kasi eh. Natyempuhan ko lang sya sa booth ng AG sa katabing auto show ng IT Show sa Singapore Expo. Ginto pala yung wax na yun.

[jmpet626]

Great! Kunin ko na ba? Hahaha heavy ang presyo kasi eh. Natyempuhan ko lang sya sa booth ng AG sa katabing auto show ng IT Show sa Singapore Expo. Ginto pala yung wax na yun.

Mahal pala ng HD wax nila hehe aabot ng 6k. So mas matibay pa yung HD wax vs Autoglym SRP and Extra Gloss Protection combo?

[umi001]

Great! Kunin ko na ba? Hahaha heavy ang presyo kasi eh. Natyempuhan ko lang sya sa booth ng AG sa katabing auto show ng IT Show sa Singapore Expo. Ginto pala yung wax na yun.

Hmmm... honest opinion? Even at the discounted price, I don't think it's worth it. You can get it for [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Autoglym-HDWAXUS-High-Definition-Wax/dp/B001FEISS6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322314015&sr=8-1]USD 38.60 from Amazon[/ame]; even adding the cost of air shipping via a courier like FRS, you're not likely to spend more than 3,000 pesos. I'm also wondering whether you can actually get it from UK sites, including shipping, for a lesser price.

The killer for me, though, is 915. Even at the somewhat inflated prices locally, 915 is 2,400 pesos; and it matches, if not betters, the AG HD in looks and durability. You also get more wax (350 ml vs 150 ml) for that price. Sure, it'll be a bit harder to apply and remove; but heck, you've used 476, so that shouldn't be an issue for you

[umi001]

Mahal pala ng HD wax nila hehe aabot ng 6k. So mas matibay pa yung HD wax vs Autoglym SRP and Extra Gloss Protection combo?

Hehe, sobrang mahal nga dito - pwedeng kang bumili ng Fuzion sampler at Supernatural Hybrid from AutoGeek, then ship via air courier, and still have some change (and you'll get more wax pa ). Not sure which is more durable - there are probably some comparisons on DW, but I've never thought to look (don't have access to the AutoGlym products kasi...).

[jmpet626]

Di kasi maganda experience ko sa SRP at EGP eh kala ko parang klasse twins performance pero hindi pala. Failed sa durability at ang hirap i apply.