Not sure sir, walk in lang ako last monday and qouted 18k for the ultra series(totl) and 12k for the ultimate series tints(same league as vk70 and huper c70 as they explained.)
May "black" shade sya vs. "Blue" shade ni huper c70 and ultimate series and brownish shade of vk70.
Ceramic based din daw sya so it works flawlessly on my ectag.



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