NLEX, SCTEX, Over-Speeding, Speed-Radar [MERGED Threads]

[monty_GTV]

SJ4000 bro. Lots of discussion about it on the DVR thread. I highly recommend it

thanks bro, i'll check it out.

[stv09]

^ayan din pagkakaalam ko. Parang ping test lang hehe. Di kaya yung speed radar na nakadeploy sa gitna ng nlex?

Baka nasa overpass ala MMDA commonwealth boys.

Sa may bocaue toll plaza ata sila lagi nag aantay so kapag umexit ka sa may bocaue toll gate, ligtas na kaya?

yup pag lumagpas ka na ng bocaue exit pwede na ulit ang spirited driving,yan lagi ko ginagawa pag lumuluwas ako pa manila...exit ng sta rita 100 to 110 kph lang takbo ko pag lagpas ng bocaue dun na ako mag mamadali[emoji16]

[testament11]

Mukhang sa madaling araw nalang sila di active. Did 115kph kagabi pero short distance lang, from Ever Memorial to Meycauayan Tollgate para mag-overtake.

[luis_]

Hindi ata capable speed guns sa gabi.

Pag daytime byahe at nagmamadali nasa 110 lang ako at pag lagpas na sa bocaue dun na harurot pa. Di naman ako pinansin nung 110 at may mga abangers sa toll gate pero kinabahan din ako nun hehe.

May kakilala ako natag sa commomwealth doing 62. Haha. Di daw sya sure kung ilan sa speedometer nya yung time na yun

[jay2]

Sa tplex wala nanghuhuli pag madaling araw

[SiRbossR]

on my way to clark and back in manila nasa 110km/h to 120km/h ako usally pag overtaking. and nag burst din ako kahapon to 150km/h whilst overtaking. Kabutihang palad di ako na tag.

yeah, sa SCTex and TPLex nasa 120km/h lang talaga takbo ko constant and a few burst to 130km/h if need mag over take uli.

So okay lang ang 120kmh dun?

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on my way to clark and back in manila nasa 110km/h to 120km/h ako usally pag overtaking. and nag burst din ako kahapon to 150km/h whilst overtaking. Kabutihang palad di ako na tag.

yeah, sa SCTex and TPLex nasa 120km/h lang talaga takbo ko constant and a few burst to 130km/h if need mag over take uli.

So okay lang ang 120kmh dun?

[jut703]

Tried to stay under 120 throughout NLEX yesterday, dahil medyo may trauma pa nga ko sa huli ko nung Friday. Kaso pagtingin ko sa Dau toll booth wala namang pinapara. Baka southbound lang sila nanghuhuli?

And then on SCTEX wala rin yung usual nanghuhuli under the overpasses near the Luisita/Tarlac City exits. May kasabay akong Kia Rio na mukhang tinatantsa din ang speed gun dahil minsan sabay kami bibirit ng 170 and then back to 120 bigla. In TPLEX wala ring nanghuhuli until Carmen.

[dr. d]

just a comment...
the rules are clear, but meron talagang pasaway...

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just a comment...
the rules are clear, but meron talagang pasaway...

[Stigg ma]

Tried to stay under 120 throughout NLEX yesterday, dahil medyo may trauma pa nga ko sa huli ko nung Friday. Kaso pagtingin ko sa Dau toll booth wala namang pinapara. Baka southbound lang sila nanghuhuli?

And then on SCTEX wala rin yung usual nanghuhuli under the overpasses near the Luisita/Tarlac City exits. May kasabay akong Kia Rio na mukhang tinatantsa din ang speed gun dahil minsan sabay kami bibirit ng 170 and then back to 120 bigla. In TPLEX wala ring nanghuhuli until Carmen.

hmmmm... mukang element of surprise ang ginagamit nila, trained ninjas siguro mga yan

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Tried to stay under 120 throughout NLEX yesterday, dahil medyo may trauma pa nga ko sa huli ko nung Friday. Kaso pagtingin ko sa Dau toll booth wala namang pinapara. Baka southbound lang sila nanghuhuli?

And then on SCTEX wala rin yung usual nanghuhuli under the overpasses near the Luisita/Tarlac City exits. May kasabay akong Kia Rio na mukhang tinatantsa din ang speed gun dahil minsan sabay kami bibirit ng 170 and then back to 120 bigla. In TPLEX wala ring nanghuhuli until Carmen.

hmmmm... mukang element of surprise ang ginagamit nila, trained ninjas siguro mga yan

[vinj]

Sa tplex wala nanghuhuli pag madaling araw

You wouldn't want to be driving way over the speed limit in the dark either.

So okay lang ang 120kmh dun?

On TPLEX and SCTEX, I believe they follow the same 120kph leeway. In my case i usually run at 115kph with a few 130-140 bursts when i want to easily pass a slower group.

just a comment...
the rules are clear, but meron talagang pasaway...

Hehehe... gusto talaga makalamang no? :P

I just got in from the north and the whole time i kept the car at a sleepy 95kph most of the time since i wanted to maintain a certain FC on the reading and heck, i'm just not in a hurry and was enjoying my Sunday drive with all my passengers sleeping. I still got ahead of most of the cars who whizzed by me when i got to toll booth and took the Easy Trip lane. LOL. Nagkita din kami sa stoplight sa Mindanao Avenue.

[jut703]

Claimed my license yesterday at the LTO main office in East Ave, and it was a disappointing experience. I thought that the LTO had already cleaned up their act since the process to get a license was very straightforward and clean when I accompanied my brother to get his license last year. But when it comes to claiming your license from traffic offenses, it's still a breeding ground of corruption.

From the entrance guard, parking guard, tambay outside of the LTO, tambay inside the LTO, all of them tried to offer me a quicker way to get my license. Di ko na daw kailangan pumila.

I said no to all their offers. I was caught for overspeeding, and so I deserve to wait in line and pay the fine (P2,077). No more seminar, but all the waiting took around 5 hours - I was there from 10:30am-3:30pm.

It makes me wonder, ano ba nararating nila sa buhay sa corrupt ways nila? The look they gave me when I said no to their offer reeked of disapproval. Para bang iniisip nilang, "loko loko pala 'to, pwede namang daanin sa mabilis, gusto pa pumila". Well at the end of the day, kahit sinunod ko yung proseso, nakuha ko naman lisensya ko. Eh sila, sa araw araw na pagfifixer nila ano ba narating nila? Buti pa yung nagtitinda ng towel dun sa sidewalk sa labas ng LTO, at least di nakakaperwisyo ng iba at hindi nagpopromote ng corruption.

Another disappointing thing I noticed - all of the people lining up and claiming their licenses the proper way were blue-collar workers, mostly truck/bus/jeepney drivers. While it's true that they commit the most traffic offenses, imposibleng walang ibang private motorist na nahuli for speeding or whatever violation. Nung nahuli ako I saw the list and there were at least 50 others before me. Pero siyempre, may pera lahat yan. And kung pwedeng bayaran, babayaran nalang.

So we have the case of the poor fixers thinking only through corrupt ways can they make a living, and the rich using their money to skip the process.

I honestly think that most people don't take an active effort towards a corruption-free society. And these people are the same people who blame PNoy for not being able to successfully bring us to "matuwid na daan" after his 6 years. Whatever happened to, "be the change you want to see in this world"?!

[jut703]

just a comment...
the rules are clear, but meron talagang pasaway...

Hehehe... gusto talaga makalamang no? :P

I don't speak for all overspeeders, but personally it's not about being pasaway or trying to one-up others.

It's just that I'm comfortable running at speeds past the speed limit, and I know that my car and I can handle it. Even if I go past the speed limit, I make a very conscious effort to not be a danger to others on the road. The speed per se isn't the danger - the danger is if you suddenly lose control and get into an accident, possibly with another motorist. I've replayed in my head over and over what to do in case of a tire blowout or a sudden road imperfection that makes me lose control, and I've practiced on track several times how to keep the car controlled under hard braking and how to regain control after having your tail come loose. I would never go faster than what I can control.

To be clear, I'm not saying I'm above the law, heck, I surrendered my license without any fuss when I was stopped by the MNTC because I know I broke the rules. But I do know that despite going past the speed limit, I tried to be as safe as I can.

I know of people with licenses who drive everyday but know nothing of highway driving. Them going at 80 on the highway is still more dangerous than someone who knows his stuff going at 140.

Now, I don't condone breaking the rules, and I believe that if you do, you better be ready for the repercussions. Yes, some laws are outdated, while others are stupid, but laws are laws. I try to stay within the speed limit as much as I can, but there are stretches in the highway that are so empty that it's not any less safe for me to go at 160 than 110.

And if safe highway driving is the real concern, highway patrol should also be apprehending people who hog the leftmost lane even when they're going at speeds slower than the average traffic speed because this forces people to overtake them on the right side which is more prone to blind spots and thus is more susceptible to accidents.

Also, on the 2-lane stretches of NLEX especially, those who overtake on the shoulders at high speed should also be apprehended because they pose a big risk of a collision since they have no runoff area since their already overtaking on the shoulder and to their right is already the concrete barrier.

[vinj]

I don't speak for all overspeeders, but personally it's not about being pasaway or trying to one-up others.

It's just that I'm comfortable running at speeds past the speed limit, and I know that my car and I can handle it. Even if I go past the speed limit, I make a very conscious effort to not be a danger to others on the road. The speed per se isn't the danger - the danger is if you suddenly lose control and get into an accident, possibly with another motorist. I've replayed in my head over and over what to do in case of a tire blowout or a sudden road imperfection that makes me lose control, and I've practiced on track several times how to keep the car controlled under hard braking and how to regain control after having your tail come loose. I would never go faster than what I can control.

To be clear, I'm not saying I'm above the law, heck, I surrendered my license without any fuss when I was stopped by the MNTC because I know I broke the rules. But I do know that despite going past the speed limit, I tried to be as safe as I can.

I know of people with licenses who drive everyday but know nothing of highway driving. Them going at 80 on the highway is still more dangerous than someone who knows his stuff going at 140.

Now, I don't condone breaking the rules, and I believe that if you do, you better be ready for the repercussions. Yes, some laws are outdated, while others are stupid, but laws are laws. I try to stay within the speed limit as much as I can, but there are stretches in the highway that are so empty that it's not any less safe for me to go at 160 than 110.

And if safe highway driving is the real concern, highway patrol should also be apprehending people who hog the leftmost lane even when they're going at speeds slower than the average traffic speed because this forces people to overtake them on the right side which is more prone to blind spots and thus is more susceptible to accidents.

Also, on the 2-lane stretches of NLEX especially, those who overtake on the shoulders at high speed should also be apprehended because they pose a big risk of a collision since they have no runoff area since their already overtaking on the shoulder and to their right is already the concrete barrier.

I agree there is a world of difference indeed between driving at a comfortable speed, and driving dangerously. I'm a regular driver on NLEX as well and you can tell the difference between drivers who run at a fast clip but drive properly and follow the general traffic flow, and those who force issues by tailgating, swerving, driving fast in the rain, and running on the shoulder among the more notable usual offenders. These are the guys who cause accidents and more traffic slowdown during heavy travel periods, especially on the narrower two lane per side portions of NLEX between Bulacan and Pampanga.

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I don't speak for all overspeeders, but personally it's not about being pasaway or trying to one-up others.

It's just that I'm comfortable running at speeds past the speed limit, and I know that my car and I can handle it. Even if I go past the speed limit, I make a very conscious effort to not be a danger to others on the road. The speed per se isn't the danger - the danger is if you suddenly lose control and get into an accident, possibly with another motorist. I've replayed in my head over and over what to do in case of a tire blowout or a sudden road imperfection that makes me lose control, and I've practiced on track several times how to keep the car controlled under hard braking and how to regain control after having your tail come loose. I would never go faster than what I can control.

To be clear, I'm not saying I'm above the law, heck, I surrendered my license without any fuss when I was stopped by the MNTC because I know I broke the rules. But I do know that despite going past the speed limit, I tried to be as safe as I can.

I know of people with licenses who drive everyday but know nothing of highway driving. Them going at 80 on the highway is still more dangerous than someone who knows his stuff going at 140.

Now, I don't condone breaking the rules, and I believe that if you do, you better be ready for the repercussions. Yes, some laws are outdated, while others are stupid, but laws are laws. I try to stay within the speed limit as much as I can, but there are stretches in the highway that are so empty that it's not any less safe for me to go at 160 than 110.

And if safe highway driving is the real concern, highway patrol should also be apprehending people who hog the leftmost lane even when they're going at speeds slower than the average traffic speed because this forces people to overtake them on the right side which is more prone to blind spots and thus is more susceptible to accidents.

Also, on the 2-lane stretches of NLEX especially, those who overtake on the shoulders at high speed should also be apprehended because they pose a big risk of a collision since they have no runoff area since their already overtaking on the shoulder and to their right is already the concrete barrier.

I agree there is a world of difference indeed between driving at a comfortable speed, and driving dangerously. I'm a regular driver on NLEX as well and you can tell the difference between drivers who run at a fast clip but drive properly and follow the general traffic flow, and those who force issues by tailgating, swerving, driving fast in the rain, and running on the shoulder among the more notable usual offenders. These are the guys who cause accidents and more traffic slowdown during heavy travel periods, especially on the narrower two lane per side portions of NLEX between Bulacan and Pampanga.

[SiRbossR]

I don't speak for all overspeeders, but personally it's not about being pasaway or trying to one-up others.

It's just that I'm comfortable running at speeds past the speed limit, and I know that my car and I can handle it. Even if I go past the speed limit, I make a very conscious effort to not be a danger to others on the road. The speed per se isn't the danger - the danger is if you suddenly lose control and get into an accident, possibly with another motorist. I've replayed in my head over and over what to do in case of a tire blowout or a sudden road imperfection that makes me lose control, and I've practiced on track several times how to keep the car controlled under hard braking and how to regain control after having your tail come loose. I would never go faster than what I can control.

To be clear, I'm not saying I'm above the law, heck, I surrendered my license without any fuss when I was stopped by the MNTC because I know I broke the rules. But I do know that despite going past the speed limit, I tried to be as safe as I can.

I know of people with licenses who drive everyday but know nothing of highway driving. Them going at 80 on the highway is still more dangerous than someone who knows his stuff going at 140.

Now, I don't condone breaking the rules, and I believe that if you do, you better be ready for the repercussions. Yes, some laws are outdated, while others are stupid, but laws are laws. I try to stay within the speed limit as much as I can, but there are stretches in the highway that are so empty that it's not any less safe for me to go at 160 than 110.

And if safe highway driving is the real concern, highway patrol should also be apprehending people who hog the leftmost lane even when they're going at speeds slower than the average traffic speed because this forces people to overtake them on the right side which is more prone to blind spots and thus is more susceptible to accidents.

Also, on the 2-lane stretches of NLEX especially, those who overtake on the shoulders at high speed should also be apprehended because they pose a big risk of a collision since they have no runoff area since their already overtaking on the shoulder and to their right is already the concrete barrier.

I couldn't agree more =)

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I don't speak for all overspeeders, but personally it's not about being pasaway or trying to one-up others.

It's just that I'm comfortable running at speeds past the speed limit, and I know that my car and I can handle it. Even if I go past the speed limit, I make a very conscious effort to not be a danger to others on the road. The speed per se isn't the danger - the danger is if you suddenly lose control and get into an accident, possibly with another motorist. I've replayed in my head over and over what to do in case of a tire blowout or a sudden road imperfection that makes me lose control, and I've practiced on track several times how to keep the car controlled under hard braking and how to regain control after having your tail come loose. I would never go faster than what I can control.

To be clear, I'm not saying I'm above the law, heck, I surrendered my license without any fuss when I was stopped by the MNTC because I know I broke the rules. But I do know that despite going past the speed limit, I tried to be as safe as I can.

I know of people with licenses who drive everyday but know nothing of highway driving. Them going at 80 on the highway is still more dangerous than someone who knows his stuff going at 140.

Now, I don't condone breaking the rules, and I believe that if you do, you better be ready for the repercussions. Yes, some laws are outdated, while others are stupid, but laws are laws. I try to stay within the speed limit as much as I can, but there are stretches in the highway that are so empty that it's not any less safe for me to go at 160 than 110.

And if safe highway driving is the real concern, highway patrol should also be apprehending people who hog the leftmost lane even when they're going at speeds slower than the average traffic speed because this forces people to overtake them on the right side which is more prone to blind spots and thus is more susceptible to accidents.

Also, on the 2-lane stretches of NLEX especially, those who overtake on the shoulders at high speed should also be apprehended because they pose a big risk of a collision since they have no runoff area since their already overtaking on the shoulder and to their right is already the concrete barrier.

I couldn't agree more =)

[7138]

Exhibit D - moving unmarked and tinted Crosswind



As a wildcard, is it possible that NLEX enforcers now tag speeding vehicles on the move? This was the only Crosswind that I encountered throughout my entire trip, and I remember that when I overtook it I did burst a little to about 150. If this is the case, then it's not a matter of knowing what exits to watch out for anymore.

pwede siguro possible ito, kung manghuhuli ng walang speed gun, just use a regular car with a properly working speedo,
and just speed up, up to the legal speed limit of a certain road. if any car passes while cruising sa max speedlimit, yun na,
tagged ka na.

[leodawesome]

Never pako nahuli kasi jan, pero ang alam ko dapat may evidence sila like a picture that you are tagged at a certain speed? Di pa ba sila ganun?

Constant 120 on SCTEX and TPLEX I think is allowed since sobrang sleeper ng 100. Never pako nahuli on times na dumaan ako sa 2 expressway na yan. Pagdating ng NLEX hinay hinay na since madami nang racing boys kahit crowded.

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Never pako nahuli kasi jan, pero ang alam ko dapat may evidence sila like a picture that you are tagged at a certain speed? Di pa ba sila ganun?

Constant 120 on SCTEX and TPLEX I think is allowed since sobrang sleeper ng 100. Never pako nahuli on times na dumaan ako sa 2 expressway na yan. Pagdating ng NLEX hinay hinay na since madami nang racing boys kahit crowded.

[Flip]

tip i got kanina lang is yung southbound speeding "sniper" in NLEX nagtatago sa mga puno in sta.rita area, no vehicle and maganda pag ka camo ng spot.

[SuperQuest]

I regularly travel 120km/h to 140km/h on NLEX and SCTEX and haven't been apprehended. Initially, I was observing the limit but people were regularly going over it with impunity. 100km/h is really outdated.

Something to keep in mind: speed traps operate within a margin. You cannot be stopped by going a digit over the limit as its hard to prove, and one can always argue (eg there was a gust of wind, etc). Unsure what the official "apprehend" speed is but reckon it is +5km above the posted limit.

[GTi]

Agree ako dito. I believe there should be certain parts of the highway that allow for higher speeds. I'm sure 140 should be quite safe in SCTEX and TPLEX. Although AFAIK they really do allow speeds upto 120. I sometimes travel almost the whole stretch of the highway at 120, traffic conditions permitting.

[jick.cejoco]

Speaking of elevated speeds, vehicles that travel at those speeds must be required a stringent safety evaluation to qualify to be driven on the expressways and have some sort of validation sticker.