Toyota Vios Owners & Discussions Thread

[Stigg ma]

Ano gamit niyo tires sa mga vios niyo??

Currently using Goodyear GT3, lagpas 30T kms na, kailangan ko na palitan. Looking for other brands/models.

Ang nakita ko is Goodyear Duraplus, 3k ea.

yokohama equivalent tire specs cost the same with the above

one thing i learned here is its not worth it to get an expensive tire due to rampant road debris (wood nails) on the street that would only prematurely retire a good expensive tire...

here's a little guide for you below.. in my opinion, get a tire from a country which has the same weather as ours...


World Tire Manufacturers and Tires, Rubber Information Network-Shinichi Kato Office

[dr. d]

yokohama equivalent tire specs cost the same with the above

one thing i learned here is its not worth it to get an expensive tire due to rampant road debris (wood nails) on the street that would only prematurely retire a good expensive tire...

here's a little guide for you below.. in my opinion, get a tire from a country which has the same weather as ours...


World Tire Manufacturers and Tires, Rubber Information Network-Shinichi Kato Office

get locally manufactured tires and support your country's economy!

[ronki]

Any specifics you can suggest?

Nakakuha kasi ako good deal * 3.2k ea yung goodyear assurance triple max. May 1 year road hazard warranty pa hehe.

How about GT radial Champiro GTX 650? Federal SS657?

I've seen bad reviews online pero yung iba kasi nag rerezing rezing, eh tayo daily commuter lang.

[dr. d]

Any specifics you can suggest?

Nakakuha kasi ako good deal * 3.2k ea yung goodyear assurance triple max. May 1 year road hazard warranty pa hehe.

How about GT radial Champiro GTX 650? Federal SS657?

I've seen bad reviews online pero yung iba kasi nag rerezing rezing, eh tayo daily commuter lang.

what on earth is a road hazard warranty?

[ronki]

They said that if your tires got damaged by any road hazard i.e. nails, they will replace the tire with a new one. :D

[kimbon]

Any specifics you can suggest?

Nakakuha kasi ako good deal * 3.2k ea yung goodyear assurance triple max. May 1 year road hazard warranty pa hehe.

yan ba yung may Kevlar sa loob ng tire as claimed by Goodyear? TIA

[ronki]

Yup!

Assurance Duramax and Triplemax.

Nga pala, nag palit na ba kayo brake pads? Going 6 years na kotse * 40T KMs + na.

Should I replace na? Bendix lang siguro ok na, nasa magkano kaya?

[dr. d]

yan ba yung may Kevlar sa loob ng tire as claimed by Goodyear? TIA

kevlar... is that the material that stops bullets but not nails and such?

[kimbon]

kevlar... is that the material that stops bullets but not nails and such?

if the bullets can't penetrate to multiple layered of kelvar, pako pa kaya??

[kimbon]

Yup!

Assurance Duramax and Triplemax.

Nga pala, nag palit na ba kayo brake pads? Going 6 years na kotse * 40T KMs + na.

Should I replace na? Bendix lang siguro ok na, nasa magkano kaya?

No need to replace your brake pads unless you hear a rattling sound when braking.

Going back to assurance tire, kwento sakin ng friend ko simula nabili hanggang napudpod ang 4 tires ng car never pa daw syang na flat tire or baka palaging swerte lang?

[ronki]

kevlar... is that the material that stops bullets but not nails and such?

Kevlar stops bullets by spreading the force, this works well for pistols but not rifle bullets. Those bullets are pointy and designed to penetrate, much like nails. Haha.

Anyway, it's a good addition.

Regarding the durability, I also have 5 years on my current tire, for 30T km mostly city driving, never had a flat tire. But one time I noticed that every week the tires deflate. When I inspect the tire, there are two big-a** nails. I just had it vulcanized and doing still doing fine.

Confession: Di pa din ako marunong mag palit ng gulong, in case mabutasan ako. Huwag naman sana

Dun sa rattling when braking, maingay ba talaga? I noticed kasi na pag step ko sa brake, ramdam ko vibration sa pedal. Siguro sensitive lang ako, kasi minsan naka medyas lang ako pag nag di-drive haha.

[kimbon]

Kevlar stops bullets by spreading the force, this works well for pistols but not rifle bullets. Those bullets are pointy and designed to penetrate, much like nails. Haha.

Anyway, it's a good addition.

Regarding the durability, I also have 5 years on my current tire, for 30T km mostly city driving, never had a flat tire. But one time I noticed that every week the tires deflate. When I inspect the tire, there are two big-a** nails. I just had it vulcanized and doing still doing fine.

Confession: Di pa din ako marunong mag palit ng gulong, in case mabutasan ako. Huwag naman sana

Dun sa rattling when braking, maingay ba talaga? I noticed kasi na pag step ko sa brake, ramdam ko vibration sa pedal. Siguro sensitive lang ako, kasi minsan naka medyas lang ako pag nag di-drive haha.

yup maingay at masakit sa tenga. just imagine 2 bakal nagkikis-kisan.

[Stigg ma]

get locally manufactured tires and support your country's economy!

i would if the price is right... unfortunately the cost of production in the Philippines is more expensive than sourcing it abroad due to VERY HIGH Electricity cost on our own country

back to topic... i been using yokohama a-drive, got it at 3000/ea, its my first time to buy new tires, the factory installed ones were goodyear GT3 that lasted 25t KM * 3 years, 75% worn out... read some reviews before buying the new said tire above says that goodyear GT3 were not good thats why i go for the yokohama a-drive

but if you ask me now, i go for the Champiro by Gajah Tunggal of indonesia...

[Stigg ma]

Yup!

Assurance Duramax and Triplemax.

Nga pala, nag palit na ba kayo brake pads? Going 6 years na kotse * 40T KMs + na.

Should I replace na? Bendix lang siguro ok na, nasa magkano kaya?

do a visual inspection first of the brake pads / shoes, use a caliper to measure if still within specifications... years of use and KM reading is not a basis for replacing brake pads... its for brake fluid that needs scheduled replacements...

do you observe vibration or slight grinding when stepping on the brake pedal while the brake pads are still within specs? then apply brake pad lubrication / grease on contact points of the brake pad / shoe housing

[dr. d]

if the bullets can't penetrate to multiple layered of kelvar, pako pa kaya??

actually... yes.
ronki has the idea.

bullets have a rather large cross-sectional area. that is why kevlar can stop them.
nails, especially sharp-tipped nails of small caliber, have a much smaller cross-sectional area, just like the needles that are used to sew kevlar fabric into consumer goods. these needles (small, sharp-tipped nails) do not have to break thru the strong kevlar fibers. they just have to shoo aside the kevlar fibers, to penetrate the layer. i am sure, we have all seen just how sharp the nails still are, when they are removed by the tire man. so unlike the mushroomed bullets after they hit the vest.

also, bullets always slow down once they leave the barrel. the remaining force is distributed by the kevlar around it, dispersing the energy and stopping the bullet.
sharp nails being driven in by the asphalt, and sharp-tipped knives being pushed forward by the assailant's arm, do not lose that energy when they are used against (kevlar) products. so even if the kevlar manages to disperse the initial energy upon contact, there is still more energy being delivered behind it.
kevlar tires may be more puncture resistant than non-kevlar tires, but not altogether puncture-proof. and, if i daresay, they are better against larger road materiel and not smaller nails.

btw... how expensive are these kevlar tires, compared to non-kevlar tires?

[ronki]

The Goodyear Assurance Duraplus/Triplemax plays at around 3k/ea for the 14".

Ito yung nakalagay sa website.

DuPont™ Kevlar® Overlay
Used in military grade equipment, DuPont™ Kevlar® is a lightweight material that maintains stiffness and strength even under high temperature conditions when the tire is in motion, giving drivers’ added protection against road hazards.

Tapos, ibang warranty pala sinasabi ko:

Goodyear Worry Free Assurance
The Goodyear Assurance DuraPlus comes with a Worry Free Assurance – One (1) year Automotive Association of the Philippines (AAP) membership with benefits such as:
24/7 emergency towing
Php 200,000 personal accident insurance
24/7 ambulance service

[Stigg ma]

The Goodyear Assurance Duraplus/Triplemax plays at around 3k/ea for the 14".

Ito yung nakalagay sa website.

DuPont™ Kevlar® Overlay
Used in military grade equipment, DuPont™ Kevlar® is a lightweight material that maintains stiffness and strength even under high temperature conditions when the tire is in motion, giving drivers’ added protection against road hazards.

Tapos, ibang warranty pala sinasabi ko:

Goodyear Worry Free Assurance
The Goodyear Assurance DuraPlus comes with a Worry Free Assurance – One (1) year Automotive Association of the Philippines (AAP) membership with benefits such as:
24/7 emergency towing
Php 200,000 personal accident insurance
24/7 ambulance service

can you provide a link on that additional coverage above, what i see is its a promo and it is already expired

Goodyear Philippines offering drivers a Worry Free Assurance plus free fuel this holiday season | GOODYEAR

if you want you can wait april 7-10, 2016 for the MIAS expo at world trade center for possible tire promo...

[ronki]

It's indicated at the web page of the product page.

Will try your suggestion waiting for a promo.

[kimbon]

actually... yes.
ronki has the idea.

bullets have a rather large cross-sectional area. that is why kevlar can stop them.
nails, especially sharp-tipped nails of small caliber, have a much smaller cross-sectional area, just like the needles that are used to sew kevlar fabric into consumer goods. these needles (small, sharp-tipped nails) do not have to break thru the strong kevlar fibers. they just have to shoo aside the kevlar fibers, to penetrate the layer. i am sure, we have all seen just how sharp the nails still are, when they are removed by the tire man. so unlike the mushroomed bullets after they hit the vest.

also, bullets always slow down once they leave the barrel. the remaining force is distributed by the kevlar around it, dispersing the energy and stopping the bullet.
sharp nails being driven in by the asphalt, and sharp-tipped knives being pushed forward by the assailant's arm, do not lose that energy when they are used against (kevlar) products. so even if the kevlar manages to disperse the initial energy upon contact, there is still more energy being delivered behind it.
kevlar tires may be more puncture resistant than non-kevlar tires, but not altogether puncture-proof. and, if i daresay, they are better against larger road materiel and not smaller nails.

btw... how expensive are these kevlar tires, compared to non-kevlar tires?

but I was referring to the nails used by the Romans when they crucified Jesus in the cross. okay ba ang palusot doc? hehe OT na tayo. seriously, You got a point here. we are now learning from your end . In response to kevlar tire price pls check page nos 10162.

[dr. d]

but I was referring to the nails used by the Romans when they crucified Jesus in the cross. okay ba ang palusot doc? hehe OT na tayo. seriously, You got a point here. we are now learning from your end . In response to kevlar tire price pls check page nos 10162.

pa-holiwik pa... puede na! it's the season... heh heh.
it's a forum, sir. we all enjoy the free exchange of ideas. anyone can say their piece, and you, me, and everyone else don't/doesn't force our ideas on anyone. huwag lang mag-batuhan o decir malas palabras..
what i am puzzled about, is that most of the google articles i came across, involved kevlar tires for bicycles. there's nary a report on automobile tires...